Struggled to a 40-10 victory @NW. A team that came to Lincoln and beat Nebraska. You talk about easy schedule. Is Nebraska's schedule really that much more difficult than Iowa's? You played a down BYU team at home, a Miami team that fired their coach mid-season, South Alabama and Southern Miss. You got Wisc, NW, Iowa and MSU at home. At Illinois, Minnesota, Purdue and Rutgers.. 2-2 on THAT B1G road schedule!!! That's bad!!! Laughable. Embarrassing.
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Struggled to a 40-10 victory @NW. A team that came to Lincoln and beat Nebraska. You talk about easy schedule. Is Nebraska's schedule really that much more difficult than Iowa's? You played a down BYU team at home, a Miami team that fired their coach mid-season, South Alabama and Southern Miss. You got Wisc, NW, Iowa and MSU at home. At Illinois, Minnesota, Purdue and Rutgers.. 2-2 on THAT B1G road schedule!!! That's bad!!! Laughable. Embarrassing.
I don't get it. Everybody is on the OU bandwagon because they beat Baylor who was playing a true freshman QB and last week they were lucky to get a win against TCU with their backup and they were playing at home. If TCU would have just kicked the extra point and went to OT I think they would have won. They had all the momentum
This weekly releasing of the rankings is just an ESPN ratings gimmick. It's the equivalent of releasing an NCAA basketball bracket in February. The committee says they start the ranking process from scratch each week, so a November poll truly does mean nothing.
Just curious but if we ha lost our #1 QB, #1 RB, #1 TE, #1 Safety, for the season, along with our #2 rb for periods during the year would we be sitting where we are now? I have hard time seeing us above 8 wins right now had we lost those kinds of guys. Yes we've had injuries but had we lost CJ game #2 for the whole season we'd have been in some trouble and wouldn't be sitting here at 11-0
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The fact that you think BYU, Miami, and Southern Miss, is in any shape or form comparable to Illinois State, Pitt, Iowa State, and North Texas is exactly why Iowa will never be any good...
BYU is a regular Top 25 team, they also lost there starting Heisman QB in the second half against NU.
Miami is Miami, some years good, some not so good, but they are a historical power house program.
Southern Miss has regularly been in the Top 25 year in and year out over the last decade and they have a top 20 offense in the nation...
You book games and never know what your gonna get that year, but you schedule teams that have been good recently or are big name programs that get a lot of attention... BYU and Miami were preseason Top 25.
You guys actually went out and scheduled 4 games against teams that:
1. Aren't even FBS opponents, they are FCS
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2. Historically are not big time programs, have not had a history of winning, and aren't historical top 25 teams.
Hey easy schedule, good for guys, more power to you, it would be much better if you just acknowledged it instead of trying to defend it.
By the way, in regard to your MSU comment...at least we played them, how you terds managed a conference schedule without Penn State, Michigan, MSU, or tOSU is mind boggling... It's funny that NU had a top 10 opponent on the schedule but it's "easy" cause we played at home... Give me a break...
You also referenced Beating Northwestern, like that's an accomplishment...OMG, your kidding right???
I can't wait till NU throttles you F-Tards on Friday...I will guarantee you one thing, your not better than Michigan State, and this won't be a close game, it will be over at half time... And they are going to do it with 10 walk on's starting and a shit roster thanks to Bo Pelini...that's what's going to be the best thing about it all, Iowa is going to lose to A Husker team with the worst roster in a century and a new coach.
I had no problem with BCS formula I just hated two teams.. Why don't they use the formula and just take the top 4? They were right waaaaaay more than wrong in my opinion..
LOL Yes, Southern Miss. ranked once in the last decade! Fresh off a 23 game losing streak! Powerhouse!!! That's like Iowa saying that Illinois state is a quality win because they placed second in the FCS last year! South Alabama is better than North Texas, but when's the last time they beat a power 5 team?? They've only been an FBS team for 3 seasons. Both are automatic wins. Miami by far better than Iowa State. Pitt better than BYU.
I said that Nebraska's schedule was better, but not by much. Hence the SOS being only 11 positions apart.
I used NW to show Iowa hasn't struggled vs. everyone. An argument that you made! Keep up, bud!
Notre Dame has played and beat Texas, then #14 Georgia Tech, then #21 Temple, USC, and they have #9 Stanford this weekend...there only loss is to the #1 team in the nation by 2 points...
This is why Notre Dame gets more street cred that Iowa, and the fact that they are a historical National power house football program, and Iowa is not...
Don't get me wrong, I hate ND, and I don't like that they aren't I a conference, but the credit I will give them is they schedule 2-4 games a year against very very good, typically top ranked programs.
Whatever you gotta tell yourself to sleep at night bud...
We will find out Friday whether or not Iowa is a fraud...
Also, seriously, if your gonna spew nonsense out of your mouth at least attempt to back it up...
BYU has won at least 8 games in the prior 4 seasons, been ranked in top 25 at some point during the year each season... Pitt has had losing records 3 out the last 4 seasons, has not won more than 7 games and have never been ranked, period.
I also never said Southern Miss was a power house, I said they have a top 20 offense in the nation and are certainly better than The directional Illinois school Iowa played and North Texas....I also never even mentioned South Alabama, cause they are a shit school, not gonna defend it, everyone schedules 1 or 2 games like that a year, Iowa just takes to a whole new level and schedules 4 shit out of conferences games and then manages to not play Penn State, MSU, Michigan, or Ohio State...
Where did I say Pitt has been better in the last 4 years? I am talking about THIS YEAR. The coaches and AP agree that Pitt>BYU this year.
You did say this.. "Southern Miss has regularly been in the Top 25 year in and year out over the last decade..." That is completely false. I notice you didn't address that.
Iowa in a laugher.
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Let's take a look at this...
Iowa's 2016 out of conference schedule...
Miami (OH)
Iowa State
NDSU
Ummmmm....I don't even know what to say..
I just hope your really enjoying this season cause it looks like next season you'll be brought back to down to earth with a real conference schedule including Penn State and Michigan....
You guys won't even sniff a conference title game for the next 20 years....
Wiscy's a has been, Minesota is a never was, and Iowa is a flash in a pan every decade or 2. NU will own the west starting next season... And will continue for a very long time, it's basically turned into the Big 12 North, essentially Iowa is Colorado, Northwestern is K State, and Wisconsin is Missouri...
Iowa's 2016 out of conference schedule...
Miami (OH)
Iowa State
NDSU
Ummmmm....I don't even know what to say..
I just hope your really enjoying this season cause it looks like next season you'll be brought back to down to earth with a real conference schedule including Penn State and Michigan....
You guys won't even sniff a conference title game for the next 20 years....
Wiscy's a has been, Minesota is a never was, and Iowa is a flash in a pan every decade or 2. NU will own the west starting next season... And will continue for a very long time, it's basically turned into the Big 12 North, essentially Iowa is Colorado, Northwestern is K State, and Wisconsin is Missouri...
What I love the most is you guys deflecting the conversation to Nebraska's out of conference schedule...instead of discussing your own... I could give two shits about NU's schedule, yeah anyone with a brain can just take a look at the names of the school and tell you which is tougher, but that isn't the point....I never said NU's was really tough, I justified it wasn't a north Texas cup cake walk, but it also isn't a tougheest in the nation either....
This is how sad you all are that you are comparing your out of conference schedule to 5-6 NU to make yourself feel like Iowa is worth a shit...
All Iowa has had to do for 20 years is schedule a Oregon, Notre Dame, USC, Oklahoma, UCLA, etc...just one of those games a year and no one is having this discussion, but when you guys historically go undefeated majority of the way through season and then lose to the first team you play with a pulse, it's hard to not to be judgmental...
FIFY
It's more sad that you're 5-6 vs. that bad of a schedule!
Remember, you came to our board to talk trash. Not the other way around. Maybe when you're in the CFP talk people will come to yours.... Don't hold your breath
Do you guys honestly think Iowa can go toe to toe with Alabama, tOSU, Notre Dame, Clemson....
1. Every one of those schools and probably most of the top 10 have far superior coaching, money backing, and fan bases...
2. They have so much more talent on the roster than Iowa does. Iowa hasn't even managed to crack the top 50 in recruiting in the last 3 years...
3. Above average coaching, work ethic, and drive will get you wins against NW's, Wiscy's, North Texas, Purdue, etc... When you go up against someone like the teams I named above, with better coaching and 4 years of top 5 recruiting classes on the field, you get stomped, hard....
NU has far superior talent on the field than Iowa, but they have a new coach, new schemes they are learning, not necessarily the right players for the schemes they want, and they have yet to play a game with all starters healthy, and it's starters at key positions like WR, LB, DL... But they have gotten better as th season has progressed and have build some confidence....
Iowa thinks this is going to be a cake walk...so did Michigan State... Very hard to judg a teams ability in year 1 of a new coach, because you always have players not buying in, locker room issues, players missing a prior staff member, players who played under prior staff and now benched under new staff... It takes time to build a new bond between players and coaches....but NU has started to come together the last few games and this isn't the same team that lost to Purdue, NU also had a walk on QB starting who threw 5 PICks in that Purdue game, not many teams can overcome 5 picks...
1. Every one of those schools and probably most of the top 10 have far superior coaching, money backing, and fan bases...
2. They have so much more talent on the roster than Iowa does. Iowa hasn't even managed to crack the top 50 in recruiting in the last 3 years...
3. Above average coaching, work ethic, and drive will get you wins against NW's, Wiscy's, North Texas, Purdue, etc... When you go up against someone like the teams I named above, with better coaching and 4 years of top 5 recruiting classes on the field, you get stomped, hard....
NU has far superior talent on the field than Iowa, but they have a new coach, new schemes they are learning, not necessarily the right players for the schemes they want, and they have yet to play a game with all starters healthy, and it's starters at key positions like WR, LB, DL... But they have gotten better as th season has progressed and have build some confidence....
Iowa thinks this is going to be a cake walk...so did Michigan State... Very hard to judg a teams ability in year 1 of a new coach, because you always have players not buying in, locker room issues, players missing a prior staff member, players who played under prior staff and now benched under new staff... It takes time to build a new bond between players and coaches....but NU has started to come together the last few games and this isn't the same team that lost to Purdue, NU also had a walk on QB starting who threw 5 PICks in that Purdue game, not many teams can overcome 5 picks...
We have a new staff...I am in no way saying Riley is Saban or Caroll or Dantonio, but all those guys had 6-7, 7-6 first seasons...Meyer is the only coach in the last decade to come into a program and be lights out from day one. New staff, injuries at key positions, and new systems to learn, all pretty good reasons to be 5-7 right now...oh we do have that one thing though you lack, a win against a top 10 team....
People aren't actually talking about Iowa being in the college football playoff...what they are actually talking about, is the spread only being -3 to a top 4 team
In the nation going against a 5-7 team...that's actually what people are talking about... Every radio and tv sports show outside of Iowa, is arguing why Iowa should not be in the top 4...Iowa is on most experts upset list for this weekend.
Nobody but Iowa has been talking about Iowa being in a playoff, nobody... almost everyone is factfully justifying why Iowa shouldn't be in the playoff.
I am gonna be smiling when the final seconds tick down and all of on here will be calling for coaches heads...
I'm pretty sure the vast majority of Hawkeye fans believe this to the case.
Must be a lot of hawk fans with some sense then. I don't know a single hawk fan that doesn't believe what IFlyEm stated.
If most of them felt this way then why is there so much whining going on in regards to the rankings, and this teams lost here, and we played this team and team, no respect, bla bla bla....
I work in downtown Omaha and there are tons of Hawkeye fans down here every day.... Just walking to the water cooler and heard this, "can you believe MSU is rated what they are rated" "we played Northwestern and Pittsburg, media always hates us, playoff committee is biased"....half of this thread is that kind of talk.....
Iowa has nothing to bitch about, nothing... You should be thankful your in the top 4 right now...because it's very justifiable and fact based to have MSU, Baylor, ND, and OSU rated ahead of Iowa...they have all played top 25 matchups, and/or have them left in the schedule.... They all unarguably have played much tougher schedules than Iowa.
MSU has played Oregon and OSU...
Baylor has played Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, and have TCU next week.
OSU has played VA tech, MSU, Penn State, and have Michigan Next.
Notre Dame has played USC, Georgia Tech, Clemson, and have Stanford this weekend.
The other thing you have to factor into deciding who will be in the playoff in who you think actually has a chance to compete...Championships are won with Jimmy's and Joe's, not X's and O's...
When was the last time there was a national champion that was not a top 25 recruiting power house?
1991 - Washington and they split it with Miami...
Over the last two decades, Alabama, tOSU, Auburn, Tennessee, Flordia State, Miami, Michigan, USC, Texas, Oklahoma, all top 25 recruiters year in and year out.... The main reason why NU will own the west for a long time once Riley gets settled, is they have the historical prestige, multi national championships, top 5 facilities, top 10 money, one of the largest fan bases nationally...and pending the right coach and recruiting strategies and staff, they can bring in top recruiting classes, even f-Tard Bo Pelini brought in a 17th ranked class 3 years ago, Bill Callahan brought a couple of top 10 classes....NU has the means and history to recruit...and even down years they are still in the high 20 and low 30 ranks classes. Iowa rarely even cracks the top 50 when the ink is dry.
It doesn't matter who coaches at Iowa, or how successful a season is, you have never been able to consistently recruit and probably never will... You guys are top 4 in the nation, undefeated, and do not have one 4* player committed...that should tell you all you need to know about Iowa football. Iowa football is a relevant for about 5 minutes every couple years and then it fizzles out... Just like it will this year...
When was the last time there was a national champion that was not a top 25 recruiting power house?
1991 - Washington and they split it with Miami...
Over the last two decades, Alabama, tOSU, Auburn, Tennessee, Flordia State, Miami, Michigan, USC, Texas, Oklahoma, all top 25 recruiters year in and year out.... The main reason why NU will own the west for a long time once Riley gets settled, is they have the historical prestige, multi national championships, top 5 facilities, top 10 money, one of the largest fan bases nationally...and pending the right coach and recruiting strategies and staff, they can bring in top recruiting classes, even f-Tard Bo Pelini brought in a 17th ranked class 3 years ago, Bill Callahan brought a couple of top 10 classes....NU has the means and history to recruit...and even down years they are still in the high 20 and low 30 ranks classes. Iowa rarely even cracks the top 50 when the ink is dry.
It doesn't matter who coaches at Iowa, or how successful a season is, you have never been able to consistently recruit and probably never will... You guys are top 4 in the nation, undefeated, and do not have one 4* player committed...that should tell you all you need to know about Iowa football. Iowa football is a relevant for about 5 minutes every couple years and then it fizzles out... Just like it will this year...
Because that's what you do when you're in the CFP talks. That's the beauty of this whole thing. There are a lot of subjective angles. You try and state your case. We're not the only ones complaining. MSU has a better resume than Oklahoma. ND is pissed. Stanford is actually trying to state a case. It's actually a fun time. I wouldn't expect you to know what it's like to be in the College Football Playoffs talk though.
I DON'T BELIEVE THIS, but someone can make a case against Alabama. They are the only team in the top six team to lose at home. There best win is against #21 Miss. St.
Why are you even bringing up two teams that Pitt beat (Va Tech and Ga Tech) to prove strength of schedule?? Va Tech is 5-6 and Ga Tech is 3-8. You're proving your co-workers points!
"The main reason why NU will own the west for a long time once Riley gets settled, is they have the historical prestige, multi national championships, top 5 facilities, top 10 money, on of the largest fan bases nationally...and pending the rift coach and recruiting strategies and staff, they can bring in top recruiting classes, even f-Tard Bo Pelini brought in a 17th ranked class 3 years ago, Bill Callahan brought a couple of top 10 classes....NU has the means and history to recruit...and even down years they are still in the high 20 and low 30 ranks classes. Iowa rarely even cracks the top 50 when the ink is dry."
Yes, Mike Riley has proven he can recruit!
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I know what your thinking, and no, those aren't the heights in inches of the average person from Iowa....
Those numbers represent the rank of Iowa's recruiting classes over the last 10 years... I understand why the Iowa Admin schedules Iowa Western and Dakota Welseyan every year, because if you had to play teams like Oregon, Bama, or USC to start a season, half your team would be on stretchers prior to half time...
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I know what your thinking, and no, those aren't the heights in inches of the average person from Iowa....
Those numbers represent the rank of Iowa's recruiting classes over the last 10 years... I understand why the Iowa Admin schedules Iowa Western and Dakota Welseyan every year, because if you had to play teams like Oregon, Bama, or USC to start a season, half your team would be on stretchers prior to half time...
Haven't looked those up to see if they're true, but compare those to Mike Riley's at Oregon State. Probably pretty scary.
You guys are really as dumb as most people say...it doesn't freaking matter how well a team is doing this year, it's about perception, and did you make an attempt to prove your worth...Va Tech is above average year in and year out, GA Tech was preseason top 25 and has had a great team the last few years... Both teams in the last 4-5 years have had pretty good programs and regulary in and out of the top 25... At the very least they are better than and Are tougher opponents than North Texas, Iowa State, and Illinois state... And if you seriously think the playoff committee site and says, well they beat Pitt and Pitt beat these teams that this team beat, well then there schedule tougher, not the way it works....
Back to Riley, how many 4* players does Iowa have committed? Oh none, ok, how many top 100 players, oh ok, none....Riley currently has multiple check marks in column for those categories.
How many 5* recruits has Iowa had on campus for visits? Oh none, ok....
Most recruiting experts nationally believe NU will have a top 25 class when the ink is dry, what about Iowa? Oh, no on talks about Iow recruiting because they go after Nebraska' s class D football leftovers we offered walk on's too and you have hem scholarships... Also nice victory on the guy you claimed to have just "taken" from us out of Omaha, Beyer, cause he never had a scholarship offer from NU....
Man keep it coming, I'll keep you owning you Cobb stuffers all day long.
Man someones gotta tell you when to shut up.... You just keep walking right in walls...
Well considering he was at Oregon state in the arm pit of the Pac 12.... With far less resources at a shit school in the arm pit of the Pac 12 in the shadow of USC, Oregon, Az, AzState, Stanford, UCLA, Mike Riley manages to outrecruit Iowa on one of the lowest recruiting budgets in the nation.....
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Keeping apples on apples I used 9 years as Riley obviously did not finish out last year at Oregon.
Throwing out 2015 as Riley left, he and OSU out recruited Iowa 5 out of the last 9 years....
He was able to do that at the worst program in the Pac 12, he now has top 5 facilities and an unlimited amount of resources, gonna be fun watching him own you in recruiting and on the field for the next 5 or 6 years until retires.
What this all boils down too is, Iowa has played teams all year with similar or less talent...NU will be the most talented and first more talented team Iowa has played this year....
This is where problems begin for teams like Iowa....
And the teams that have this mentality of, well Purdue and Northwestern beat them and we beat those teams, so we should own them is where you get in trouble...NU is not the same team they were a month ago... Iowa better be ready for an old fashioned Herby Husker ass whipping, cause Iowa is going to make NU look like the '95 huskers on Friday...
This is where problems begin for teams like Iowa....
And the teams that have this mentality of, well Purdue and Northwestern beat them and we beat those teams, so we should own them is where you get in trouble...NU is not the same team they were a month ago... Iowa better be ready for an old fashioned Herby Husker ass whipping, cause Iowa is going to make NU look like the '95 huskers on Friday...
Interesting doomsday scenario, but unless tOSU absolutely rolls Michigan and/or Iowa completely destroys MSU, I can't see tOSU jumping back over them when MSU beat them in Columbus with their backup QB. If all of that plays out, I think MSU gets the third spot and Okla State fourth.
Yes, those numbers are very similar. Gary Andersen has the #31 class for 2016 at Oregon state right now. Even with that dumpster Riley left him.
Why are you so mad?
In that Doomsday scenario Florida would get into the Playoff I think over a second big 10 team.
If we truly want the sec gone we should be pulling for FSU to beat Florida, Auburn to be Bama and Ole Miss to win the SEC as a 3 loss SEC ranked 18th right now would have a tough time getting into the top 4. However it's the SEC so I am sure they'd find a way in.
That's funny, I thought that reading your post was the funniest thing to watch all year.
Glad to know the Hawkeyes are in your head.
Toodles.
Could this redwhitelincoln dude be the Husker Kilroy?!?
If so, if we got them together in the same room, would they both just explode and annihilate one another?!?
Interesting. More interesting are these numbers:
23 - number of Oregon State players currently on NFL roster
27 - number of Nebraska players currently on NFL rosters
36 - Number of Iowa players currently on NFL rosters
Looks like your new coach doesn't really develop players as well as Kirk. Kirk does much more with "less talent". Probably why we will be kicking Nebraska's a$$ the next couple of years.
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