I Shouldn't be Surprised

[Gooseeman]

but I kind of am.

The Community Action Agency I work for helps low income families with a lot of different things.

We are heavily involved in the Community with Christmas presents for families as well.

Within an hour of a client getting gifts, they had them for sale on a swap site in our Community for $30 for toys totaling about $250.

They are now banned from Services so I hope it was worth it.

 

[ottumwan in tx]

I volunteered to deliver presents for Needy folks for about 4 yrs. The Christmas bureau or whatever it was called. It folded . some dude was running a scam.
But anyway one time I delivered to a house bigger than mine by about twice!! It was huge . oh well

 

[naturalmwa]

That seems petty to deny services because the family could use cash more. Maybe next year just give cash to start. All those Chinese toy makers don't need your money.

 

[ottumwan in tx]

Maybe they lied and had no kids

 

[Foxclone]

I helped deliver gifts to needy families for years. It was humbling, and yet sad. There were home's we would set the presents inside the door. The scenes in some home's was so bad, the parents should have had their children taken from them. Just horrible conditions.

 

[Gooseeman]

Maybe they lied and had no kids

That seems petty to deny services because the family could use cash more. Maybe next year just give cash to start. All those Chinese toy makers don't need your money money.

these toys are donated by the Community. I seriously doubt most people wouldn’ have a problem with it Based on the income we documented $30 would not make a difference. Maybe they should ask for cash

 

[ottumwan in tx]

As long as people are going to give.... Others shall scam and take. Some are needy Others are a scam

 

[Hy_dro]

That seems petty to deny services because the family could use cash more. Maybe next year just give cash to start. All those Chinese toy makers don't need your money money.

Beggars can't be choosers

 

[naturalmwa]

Beggars can't be choosers

The whole point of this thread is that they took the bull by the horns and made it work for them.

 

[lucas80]

I don't know about this situation, but I am reminded of an episode of M*A*S*H by this story. Major Winchester gives chocolates and goodies to the orphanage, he immediately sees the items being sold on the black market. He is enraged and confronts the nuns (I think, it's been awhile since I've seen it. Maybe it was Mulcahey?). Winchester is told the goodies are being sold for food and clothing/blankets. What good is chocolate if you are hungry and cold all the time?

 

[Gooseeman]

The whole point of this thread is that they took the bull by the horns and made it work for them.

And their actions like everyone else’s have consequences

 

[lonestar50]

$250 value and they only got $30? Maybe next time put the prices on the toys so they can get a fairer return.

 

[naturalmwa]

And their actions like everyone else’s have consequences

Should there be? Why? When you give something away, why do you think you still have a right to govern how it's used? When a family needs cash and is given Barbie Dolls, this sort of selling needs to be considered legitimate. Defend your position.

 

[naturalmwa]

$250 value and they only got $30? Maybe next time put the prices on the toys so they can get a fairer return.

Or include a receipt. Most of us will return items for cash this year and that's from people we like.

 

[Gooseeman]

Should there be? Why? When you give something away, why do you think you still have a right to govern how it's used? When a family needs cash and is given Barbie Dolls, this sort of selling needs to be considered legitimate. Defend your position.

The client got a $900 check on Dec 22nd so not seeing where $30 was needed. The toy Program is for those that can not afford gifts for their kids. Our Agency Director banned them not me. We had also just helped the monetari

Should there be? Why? When you give something away, why do you think you still have a right to govern how it's used? When a family needs cash and is given Barbie Dolls, this sort of selling needs to be considered legitimate. Defend your position.

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Should there be? Why? When you give something away, why do you think you still have a right to govern how it's used? When a family needs cash and is given Barbie Dolls, this sort of selling needs to be considered legitimate. Defend your position.

Our Agency Director decided on the ban. The Program is for clients who say they can't afford gifts for their kids. We had just helped them monetarily, and he just got a $900 on Dec 22nd. You think it's ok our Agency Director disagrees. Merry Christmas.

 

[gusto79]

That sucks for the kids.

 

[swagsurfer02]

Beggars can't be choosers

The whole point of this thread is that they took the bull by the horns and made it work for them.

I think this is where we differ in opinion, I would think taking the bull by the horns means going and applying for jobs to better your situation

 

[naturalmwa]

The client got a $900 check on Dec 22nd so not seeing where $30 was needed. The toy Program is for those that can not afford gifts for their kids. Our Agency Director banned them not me. We had also just helped the monetari


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Our Agency Director decided on the ban. The Program is for clients who say they can't afford gifts for their kids. We had just helped them monetarily, and he just got a $900 on Dec 22nd. You think it's ok our Agency Director disagrees. Merry Christmas.

I'm suggesting you don't have any ground to decide what that family needs best and selling toys should hardly be considered an offensive act. Telling people they can't sell their toys is offensive however.

 

[naturalmwa]

I think this is where we differ in opinion, I would think taking the bull by the horns means going and applying for jobs to better your situation

There are many bulls.

 

[swagsurfer02]

I think this is where we differ in opinion, I would think taking the bull by the horns means going and applying for jobs to better your situation

There are many bulls.

And there's much bullshit too

 

[naturalmwa]

And there's much bullshit too

Yep, like trying to control how people use their property.

 

[swagsurfer02]

And there's much bullshit too

Yep, like trying to control how people use their property.

I wouldn't say control, I just wouldn't give to that organization.

 

[CarolinaHawkeye]

Capitalism

 

[artradley]

but I kind of am.

The Community Action Agency I work for helps low income families with a lot of different things.

We are heavily involved in the Community with Christmas presents for families as well.

Within an hour of a client getting gifts, they had them for sale on a swap site in our Community for $30 for toys totaling about $250.

They are now banned from Services so I hope it was worth it.

So your organization won't help them with anything now? Seems petty and vindictive.

 

[anon_01irjibf16qqj]

The client got a $900 check on Dec 22nd so not seeing where $30 was needed. The toy Program is for those that can not afford gifts for their kids. Our Agency Director banned them not me. We had also just helped the monetari


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Our Agency Director decided on the ban. The Program is for clients who say they can't afford gifts for their kids. We had just helped them monetarily, and he just got a $900 on Dec 22nd. You think it's ok our Agency Director disagrees. Merry Christmas.

$900 can be gone in the blink of an eye....Rent/Food/Gas/Electricity.

I know this is HROT, and most of you haven't been poor, but $30 can make a huge difference...when you have nothing.

 

[h-hawk]

I don't know about this situation, but I am reminded of an episode of M*A*S*H by this story. Major Winchester gives chocolates and goodies to the orphanage, he immediately sees the items being sold on the black market. He is enraged and confronts the nuns (I think, it's been awhile since I've seen it. Maybe it was Mulcahey?). Winchester is told the goodies are being sold for food and clothing/blankets. What good is chocolate if you are hungry and cold all the time?

It is the guy from the orphanage to whom he gave the chocolates and who is visiting the camp because they are having a party for the orphans. Great episode and may be the saddest TV Christmas episode ever. The other main plot line is trying to keep the mortally wounded soldier alive past Christmas so his family won't have to think of Christmas as a sad day.

 

[SiouxCyty]

Yep, like trying to control how people use their property.

If you are receiving welfare you shouldn’t be able to buy alcohol or tobacco products, especially if you have kids. Should be noted/marked on your drivers license/ID.

 

[dirtypool]

Should there be? Why? When you give something away, why do you think you still have a right to govern how it's used? When a family needs cash and is given Barbie Dolls, this sort of selling needs to be considered legitimate. Defend your position.

I'm suggesting you don't have any ground to decide what that family needs best and selling toys should hardly be considered an offensive act. Telling people they can't sell their toys is offensive however.

once the item is given, it is theirs to do with as they wish....but if the item was given under the pretense that they didn't have any resources to get christmas presents for the kids and the items were sold off as cash, then I don't see a problem with those individuals being removed from participating in that program anymore.

 

[soybean]

Lot of judgment by the OP in this thread.

 

[MitchL]

Sorry to get this off topic... but I compare it to giving a beggar $$$ only to see him walk into the convenience store and buy cigs or alcohol.

To the OP... I tend to lean with agreeing with the program director.

 

[BABiscuit]

The toys were for the kids. I don't know about banning them from all services, but I agree it was bullshit to sell them.

 

[naturalmwa]

If you are receiving welfare you shouldn’t be able to buy alcohol or tobacco products, especially if you have kids. Should be noted/marked on your drivers license/ID.

You can't, but this wasn't welfare, it was a gift.

 

[swagsurfer02]

If you are receiving welfare you shouldn’t be able to buy alcohol or tobacco products, especially if you have kids. Should be noted/marked on your drivers license/ID.

You can't, but this wasn't welfare, it was a gift.

It's kind of gross

 

[tumorboy]

these toys are donated by the Community. I seriously doubt most people wouldn’ have a problem with it Based on the income we documented $30 would not make a difference. Maybe they should ask for cash

30 bucks for heroin?

 

[SiouxCyty]

You can't, but this wasn't welfare, it was a gift.

People can designate whatever the hell they want you stupid mother......

 

[naturalmwa]

People can designate whatever the hell they want you stupid mother......

And I can condemn them and you for your foolishness. Thanks for being an easy target, get an avatar.

 

[BubsFinn]

$250 value and they only got $30? Maybe next time put the prices on the toys so they can get a fairer return.

This just in: Poor people often make bad decisions about money. Film at 11:00.

 

[hawkeye54545]

I feel like the parents need for cash to score some drugs outweighed their need for their kids to have toys.