The way I see it now...
1. Ted Cruz
2. Donald Trump
3. Marco Rubio
I think Trump bounces back and takes New Hampshire
1. Ted Cruz
2. Donald Trump
3. Marco Rubio
I think Trump bounces back and takes New Hampshire
I still think Ted Cruz wins Iowa...
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I thought Iowa GOP did theirs different and it was more like a true vote as opposed to the caucus for the Democrats where they have groups and you have to have a certain percentage to be "viable" in your precinct.
We should have gone to a primary years ago. Of course, then we would not be "on the map". The caucus ranks right up there with the World's Largest Frying Pan as a source of pride.
While Cruz did very well in the debate - I'd say he won it rather handily - I'm actually less worried about him becoming our next president. He totally screwed himself with the Hispanic population. He'd have to pick Rubio for his VP to have any shot getting the H votes the GOP will need to win. Hard to see that happening, and might hurt him with other demographics.
For those wondering why I say that, Cruz was basically suckered into saying that he wouldn't allow ANY illegal to ever be a citizen. I imagine he'll try to walk that back, but that's how it's being reported and that's how I would have heard it if I were Hispanic.
Sure, not all Hispanics who can vote want the path to citizenship to be easy. But it's probably a safe bet that most of them want their compatriots and fellow refugees to have some reasonable path.
For those wondering why I say that, Cruz was basically suckered into saying that he wouldn't allow ANY illegal to ever be a citizen. I imagine he'll try to walk that back, but that's how it's being reported and that's how I would have heard it if I were Hispanic.
Sure, not all Hispanics who can vote want the path to citizenship to be easy. But it's probably a safe bet that most of them want their compatriots and fellow refugees to have some reasonable path.
1)Cruz 2)Rubio 3) Trump. So many people are deciding late and I do not believe many people will decide late for Trump. In addition almost no one who switches late will switch to Trump
Is Cruz even eligible to run for president? I would think the "greatest truther", aka(McDonald Trump), would have jumped on that during this campaign.
I'm hoping for a 2-Cuban ticket. One not a natural born citizen, the other an anchor baby. And neither Cuban's parents fled Castro's Cuba.
A veritable feast of hypocrisy will be served.
How much of the Hispanic vote do you think Cruz would get?
In his senate election in Texas he got 35-40% of the Hispanic vote. Now that would probably change on a national level but Bush was able to win around the same percentage in his two elections.
Wouldn't surprise me. The Iowa GOP elects some doozies in the caucus. The crazier and more socially backwards, the better.
I think the Hispanic population will move over to the R part in this election. Sure they are minorities but, culturally, they are closer to whites than the other two groups of minorities the democrat party will be pandering to this election cycle (blacks and muslims).
The Repubs have a chance to change the whole dynamics on how Hispanics vote if they could just get out of their own way. Hell, Hispanics liked GWB bc his path to citizenship and his idea on 'guest worker' seemed fair to them. Not sure why the repub party just doesn't take up his ideas on this area as it would tilt the political landscape in their favor for decades to come.
Hillary doesn't believe she is an anointed king of god sent here to kill me. By comparison, she is considerably less cray cray than Cruz.
This is almost certainly photoshopped, but it's still fun. In today's America, spreading this around could be sufficient to keep Condi off the ticket.
Hey, if I were the GOP nominee, I'd definitely consider her. Wouldn't you?
Think about it. A Cruz-Rice ticket. A Rubio-Rice ticket. Heck, how about a Trump-Rice ticket.
Hey, if I were the GOP nominee, I'd definitely consider her. Wouldn't you?
Think about it. A Cruz-Rice ticket. A Rubio-Rice ticket. Heck, how about a Trump-Rice ticket.
This is almost certainly photoshopped, but it's still fun. In today's America, spreading this around could be sufficient to keep Condi off the ticket.
Hey, if I were the GOP nominee, I'd definitely consider her. Wouldn't you?
Think about it. A Cruz-Rice ticket. A Rubio-Rice ticket. Heck, how about a Trump-Rice ticket.
She has more important work to do...see College Football Playoff Committee.
I have been saying this for a long time. But they simply won't get out of their own way.
Some day, maybe, but they have made their bed with the virulent anti-immigration types just as firmly has they have with the racists and the radical Christian extremists. They are locked in for now.
Maybe IF they nominate Rubio and his ticket mate isn't awful on immigration, and IF the GOP embraces immigration reform that's no worse than the legislation Rubio was trying to distance himself from (which would have been a huge win for the GOP if they had championed it, even though it was way too conservative).
But while they might nominate Rubio, I just don't see those other things happening.
For better or worse, this race is turning into a xenophobic national security race. Unless and until something happens to change that, the GOP can't and won't want to soften their image on border security and immigration.
Fair point, but Texas is a red state. It simply doesn't matter how well he does with Hispanics there. That said, I'd expect his approval rating with Texas Hispanics to be lower today than it was before the debate.
Now I know why the committee liked Stanford so much. Come on Iowa, let's take them both out.
Wait until Pope Frank endorses Bernie Sanders and urges all good Catholics to turn out and vote.
Not that that would happen, but imagine the impact on the Hispanic community if it did.
And even though it won't happen, Bernie embraces a lot of Pope Frank's recent "modernizations" of the Church message, whereas the GOP has attacked Pope Frank for his comments on climate change, capitalism, and refugees - and routinely rejects his appeals against war.
Not that that would happen, but imagine the impact on the Hispanic community if it did.
And even though it won't happen, Bernie embraces a lot of Pope Frank's recent "modernizations" of the Church message, whereas the GOP has attacked Pope Frank for his comments on climate change, capitalism, and refugees - and routinely rejects his appeals against war.
The Pope is a realist and a populist and, if he could endorse a candidate, I do believe it would be Bernie.
I don't believe that is what he is saying. Hillary isn't any crazier than Cruz, just that she's just as sleazy.
And my argument is, they aren't even close. No matter how bad you think Hill is or would be, it's not even in the same ballpark as the Cruz plan to turn America into a theocracy to pursue Biblical dispensationalism.
So . . . we're headed toward both parties nominating their sleaziest candidate.
And 98% if voters STILL won't vote for a 3rd party candidate.
I suspect that would still be true if they nominated Hitler and Stalin. We are such good little lemmings.
USA! USA! USA!
You're definitely correct on that. But on the single measure of sleaziness, it's much closer. I rate Cruz worse, but I'm hardly unbiased.
I'm not unbiased either. In my calculus I figure Cruz would be the equal to Hill in every way she might want to act sleazy. But then Cruz wants to kill me and take all my money, so that sort of tips the scales.
I didn't realize he wanted to take all your money. Kill you, probably.
If you were an American-style libertarian (or Jack Benny) you'd worry more about the money.
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The dispensational belief is that anointed kings of the church will take money from the non believers (us) and redistribute it to the faithful. He was anointed in Iowa where he also hangs out with the "kill the gays" preacher (as does Huckabee and Jindal). Cruz is crazy of biblical proportions. Christians have their own problems with fundamentalism and Cruz would be the poster boy.
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Regardless of the actual method of determining winners, the caucus system remains a problem in that it requires those attending to devote several hours of their time at one particular time on one evening as opposed to spending several minutes at a time of their choosing during an election day to vote in a primary. Many people are unable or unwilling to devote that much time and effort into having their voice heard in support of a nominee. That results in only the most zealous and committed party faithful to show up at the caucuses. These people tend to be more extreme (either farther left or farther right) than the majority of their parties, thus you get folks like Huckabee and Santorum winning the caucuses, while a primary would more likely yielded a much different decision.
I don't really mind that. Wouldn't want it in all "primaries" and don't like it as the perennial 1st primary, but the idea that those who care the most pick for the state has a certain appeal to it.
I agree. He is just a slight step below the religious crazy of Muslims.
Having said that Trump, with his crazy statements, is making Cruz look more acceptable to moderates.
Well, I'm no moderate. But Cruz scares me more than Trump. A lot more. Sure, Trump is wrong on a number of things and downright offensive on a few. But crazy is worse. And Trump seems refreshingly secular for a Republican. Whereas Cruz is a barely-closeted theocrat.
But Cruz isn't shouting his crazy beliefs out loud, at least not to the point where they are getting lots of media attention. Trump on the other hand: Kill Muslim terrorist families (a new narrative by the lib media that I believe they are stretching a little far to get some play out of it), Shut down the internet (which isn't what he is saying really but what is being reported), Keep all Muslims out (media acting like this hasn't been ever done before even though it had in many occasions just in a more PC way).
My guess is Cruz's crazy, right now, is flying under the radar of most Americans.
Cruz's carpet-bombing language is pretty scary. His blanket rejection of any path for illegals is even worse than Trump's temp ban on Muslims entering the country, imo, awful as that suggestion is.
I kept waiting for someone to challenge Cruz on his repeated "I will target the bad guys" claims. How does he propose to distinguish the bad guys from everybody else?
As Santorum suggested in the early debate, how are you going to screen the refugees to weed out the jihadis? You gonnna call Assad? You gonna call Baghdadi?
Cruz is the only true conservative out there, but holy moly, that guy scares the bujeezus out of me. Like he will start a war with Russia or something.
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