Pollard will need to open the checkbook. He'll be upwards of $4million for 5 years after this year.
Clones keep hoping the buyout of $9 million will stop it but fail to realize that is not going to stop a lot of schools if he is who they want..
If ISU win Campbell leaves and will make $$$$
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Pollard will need to open the checkbook. He'll be upwards of $4million for 5 years after this year.
Clones keep hoping the buyout of $9 million will stop it but fail to realize that is not going to stop a lot of schools if he is who they want..
Reality is going to come crashing down on ISU. They're either going to lose the best coach they've ever had real soon, or they're going to get strong-armed into giving him a KF-like contract. Then, when they continually see 5-7 win seasons, with very few games like the recent Okla and TCU, there's gonna be a lot of discontent.
My suggestion for ISU fans would be to just enjoy the ride you're on, because despite what you might think, it's unlikely to be the new norm. And it wouldn't hurt to stay level-headed.
My suggestion for ISU fans would be to just enjoy the ride you're on, because despite what you might think, it's unlikely to be the new norm. And it wouldn't hurt to stay level-headed.
I have no idea what Campbell is going to do. If a blue blood flashes a long term contract at 7 Million dollars a year it's going to be hard to turn down.
Please link me the Campbell press conference at Toledo where he talked about moving on before he took the ISU coach
To keep him long term, he will have to be overpaid just like KF. The limitations that Iowa and ISU face make this a certainty.
Iowa State may be a good job in general with low expectations and decent facilities but we're not discussing the merits of that job alone. While it is true we don't know what kind of cat Campbell is , I safely assume he's highly competitive.
If you look at Iowa State compared to Florida, Tennessee or Nebraska it's a MAC school in comparison. He jumped from Toledo to Iowa State because it presented him with more resources etc..etc...
Now Florida has recruiting grounds any prospective coach drools about. They have a huge stadium, a new indoor practice facility and are currently in the middle of upgrading all of their facilities. They have national titles, a huge alumni and wealthy boosters and belong to one of the best conferences in the land. Tennessee is ditto for everything except the recruiting grounds but they still do pretty well.
Nebraska is a huge brand, huge stadium, lots of money and national titles. They recruit better than ISU and belong to the BIG conference and compete in the Western conference.
Iowa State is in the Big 12 conference a.k.a Texas's sandbox. They or Oklahoma bail and it's bye bye Big 12 or at least it's P5 status. Iowa State is not a terrible place to coach or live but Campbell is a competitive guy which is why he left the MAC for the Big 12. Now if the SEC or BIG comes calling its over. Just how I see it.
Congrats on the season so far Clones. I hope you win out and make a big bowl, if it happens maybe he stays. I wouldn't bet on it though.
If you look at Iowa State compared to Florida, Tennessee or Nebraska it's a MAC school in comparison. He jumped from Toledo to Iowa State because it presented him with more resources etc..etc...
Now Florida has recruiting grounds any prospective coach drools about. They have a huge stadium, a new indoor practice facility and are currently in the middle of upgrading all of their facilities. They have national titles, a huge alumni and wealthy boosters and belong to one of the best conferences in the land. Tennessee is ditto for everything except the recruiting grounds but they still do pretty well.
Nebraska is a huge brand, huge stadium, lots of money and national titles. They recruit better than ISU and belong to the BIG conference and compete in the Western conference.
Iowa State is in the Big 12 conference a.k.a Texas's sandbox. They or Oklahoma bail and it's bye bye Big 12 or at least it's P5 status. Iowa State is not a terrible place to coach or live but Campbell is a competitive guy which is why he left the MAC for the Big 12. Now if the SEC or BIG comes calling its over. Just how I see it.
Congrats on the season so far Clones. I hope you win out and make a big bowl, if it happens maybe he stays. I wouldn't bet on it though.
After 2002 it was rumored more than one NFL job was open to him.Now not so much.
I'm not going to say nobody can afford the buyout its just a roadblock. Also keep in mind teams that would pay the buyout are usually also paying a buyout to the coach they just fired and figure that in on top of the $9M.
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Florida boosters forced Florida to fire their coach in middle of season just because they were pissed.
The SEC power schools wipe their asses with $9 million in booster money.
Hopefully ISU can use the money to help their program because it will do nothing to ward off the sharks.
The SEC power schools wipe their asses with $9 million in booster money.
Hopefully ISU can use the money to help their program because it will do nothing to ward off the sharks.
Why would a coach want to deal with the headache's of boosters who think if a team does not win 10 games a year they are considered a failure.
Florida is an example of why no coach making good coin at a P5 program outside SEC would want to go there.
Big time gigs come with big time pressure. Programs like Florida, Ohio State, Texas, USC and Alabama all have wealthy boosters who influence their respective programs. Why? $$$$$$ I don't know what your opinion of good coinis, because if it Saban, Harbaugh or Meyer than yes they aren't leaving.Then again they also already hold down top ten jobs. Not an upwards move on their part.
First, I'm not one who thinks Campbell will leave after this year, but think about this for a second. Let's say Florida comes calling. Imagine someone comes to you at your job, and offers your same job at their company, increasing your salary by 50-75%, gives you better people to work with, better facilities, more employees, and in a bigger city. Do you turn it down? It'd be very tough.
Going back to discussions months ago related to Campbell's recruiting tactics. You think he wouldn't like to have to stop offering everyone under the sun, just to finish inside the top 50 in recruiting? Imagine if he could dwindle his recruiting down by 1/3rd to 1/2 of the time because the school he goes to recruits itself?
Expecting to win 9 games at Nebraska, is about the same as expecting to win 6-7 games at ISU. Nebraska/Florida/Tenn all have just as nice as facilities, bigger stadiums, more fans, etc.
If he stays at ISU, it'll be because he truly wants to build a program there, and some guys are like that. I'm not sure Campbell is yet.
No body knows what coach Campbell is going to do at end of the year or what opening will be there for the taking in P5 conferences. But the reality of the situation is that he is a good young coach. He is a hot name right now. Most good young coaches dream of getting an opportunity to coach in SEC and win a national title. You have a better chance at SEC school than a BIG 12 school to . It is easier to recruit top level talent in the SEC and possibly win national championships. Most of the southern kids what to play in SEC. BB left Wisky to take a shot at the SEC. Nebby Cornshuskers use to be a good job. They fans still think they are an elite program. Not so much now but they will pay big dollars to keep the dream alive. Oh and by the way, they left the BIG12 for money. We all need to remember coaching is a job. These coaches have wives and children. How many of us would not take a new job to make $2-3 million more dollars per year? Please? The right program will pay the $9 million buy out. Iowa State is not a national brand. The clowns are not even the favorite football team in the state of Iowa. KF had other opportunities to coach other places but stayed for family reasons. He wanted his kids to finish in same high school. He was able to coach his sons in college. Campbell does not have any of those reasons to stay yet in Ames. Guys it about the dollars and a chance to win a national title. Do not give me the BS about wanting to build the program. Every coach wants to build the program while they are there. Then they leave and never look back. Campbell gave the same pitch to the kids he recruited to Toledo. And he never looked back and moved to ISU. And it is much harder to build a football team than a basketball team.
To keep Campbell, ISU needs to pay the man. If they can significantly increase his pay they will keep him for awhile. I don't think he just jumps for any job when if he gets the right money he can stay at ISU for awhile and win and not have to worry about his job if they have a down year or two. If you go to Florida or Tennessee you could be gone in less than three years.
What recruiting ties did Urban Meyer have in Florida before he became their head coach?
I don't care how high they get ranked, there is still a loss at home to the Hawks on that record in 2017.
First off, I know none of these coaches well enough to say what they will do, or won't do, as it relates to any given opportunity. But, it does seem to me that some previously highly ranked programs are struggling to find/retain high quality coaches after they have fired a fairly successful, but not successful enough, replacement. Nebraska and Texas come to mind right away, even Notre Dame to an extent...although they are doing very well this year.
I agree that it seems logical for a coach to carefully think about what would happen to him in 3-5 years if he was "only" winning 8'ish games a year, etc.
I think the success that ISU is having this year is not fluky, they are playing well and there is no reason to think that they cannot continue to improve, or at least sustain a similar level of success, in the future...if Campbell stays there.
I have been thinking that same thing for years. The Hawkeye fans seem to wonder that every other year when their uneven schedule is tougher like this season.
While there is truth in that statement, I don't think that is the ONLY reason that he stayed at Iowa. I think he might have had a small pay bump, or two, along the way.
Sure, and could be just like McCarney in 2002 starting 6-1 ranked 9th - but no I don't really believe it will end the same
I don't see him leaving ISU for anywhere in the Midwest. The weather is too crappy. IF he leaves, I'm guessing SEC, ACC or Pac12.
Better BF than the coaching carousel that takes place at ISU. There're a lot of good coaching jobs coming up after the season ends. You have to be pretty stupid if you don't think Cambell will listen to offers. He has a coaches ego. For example if he likes Florida's offer or Texas A&M's offer, thinks recruiting is easier, better chance to be ranked in the top 10 every yr., much bigger salary for him and his coaches, and a much easier path to a NC, he's gone.
It was a great game but The Cyclones gave the game away in the final minutes as much as the Hawkeyes earned the win. The Hawkeyes can thank that win for the 1 point they got in the coaches poll this week.
Dantonio was a Tressel protégé ... he's a Big 10 lifer. Dantonio is smarter than Bielema and understands the "fit" he has at MSU.
Snyder was already an old man shortly after he turned around KSU ... furthermore, he was a Fry protégé .... so he was able to appreciate how these small Midwestern towns can be great places to live.
If Campbell is smart, he leverages ISU to offer him the farm ... then not only will he end-up making a butt-ton of cash ... but he'll also have infinite job-security. If he moves on ... he might get more prestige ... but there will also inherently be far more risk too. The problem for ISU fans is that he's a pretty young coach ... and likely pretty ambitious too. Given those features and how the coaching world seems to work .... he'll likely go down the standard road of cashing in while his star is still high.
As I recall, the ISU D had a tough time slowing Iowa's passing game in that game. ISU benefitted on blown plays to get around 14 to 21 points. Hawk fans could lament our blown lead from early in the first half every bit as much as ISU could lament "giving away" things at the end of the game.
Iowa might have had more points if not for blown plays in the first half but Iowa never got the lead to blow until :52 seconds remained in the first half.
http://www.hawkeyesports.com/documents/2017/9/25//IOWA02.pdf
I love when ISU trolls come on a Iowa site and try to make excuses for their loss to the Hawks. This is Cambell's 2nd loss to Ferentz in 2 tries, by the way. ISU's football program has sucked for centuries so I can under stand their excitement and also their fear of loosing Cambell.
It's amazing how much the Hawkeye fans stress over this, probably because Hawk fans want him gone. I don't concern myself with things I can not control. Just enjoy the time Campbell is here and hope it's for a long time.
