IF KF wins less then 9 with this schedule...
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Ugh, I can see why there are some Polly Annas here when some posters are over eager to bury Iowa football. The schedule last year is similar to the one this year. However, last year Iowa's toughest opponents were home games, like Wisconsin, Nebraska, and rival Iowa St that plays up for Iowa. So it was optimistic but realistic to hope for a double digit win season.
This season has pretty much the same opponents, with the easier opponents at home. So while it is highly unlikely, especially with last year's performance, to get double digit wins, it is going to be hard NOT to win 7 games, but little more. The problem is not that Iowa football is a garbage fire, it is that it is mediocre, and absent one year, has been for the past decade. If Iowa does better than 6-6 next year, Ferentz will be back, as he still has Greg Davis as a scapegoat he can fire and use to buy another year.
As for Maryland, last year was a high water mark for their program and they still were barely in the top 100 for offense. Iowa was a lot better in offensive ranks; that is the difference between Iowa and Maryland losing skill positions, in addition to optimism for CJ and Tevaun. And whatever Maryland does end up for qb and wr, they will not be half as good as what they replaced. You get a line of 10 points on the Maryland game this year, take it. As for Iowa St., their program is a garbage fire. Past success at Ames is not going to help them in Ames this year. If Ferentz loses that one, it is unlikely he will win any other trophy games. And if he goes 0-4 against Iowa's rivals 2 years in a row, no fast 40 times of recruits for 2016 are going to save him.
You are not going to "makeachange" by falsely saying Iowa is now Purdue when they are more like Rutgers or Minnesota, which after 10 years for me personally is unacceptable. We will see what the new president at Iowa thinks after next season, though.
This season has pretty much the same opponents, with the easier opponents at home. So while it is highly unlikely, especially with last year's performance, to get double digit wins, it is going to be hard NOT to win 7 games, but little more. The problem is not that Iowa football is a garbage fire, it is that it is mediocre, and absent one year, has been for the past decade. If Iowa does better than 6-6 next year, Ferentz will be back, as he still has Greg Davis as a scapegoat he can fire and use to buy another year.
As for Maryland, last year was a high water mark for their program and they still were barely in the top 100 for offense. Iowa was a lot better in offensive ranks; that is the difference between Iowa and Maryland losing skill positions, in addition to optimism for CJ and Tevaun. And whatever Maryland does end up for qb and wr, they will not be half as good as what they replaced. You get a line of 10 points on the Maryland game this year, take it. As for Iowa St., their program is a garbage fire. Past success at Ames is not going to help them in Ames this year. If Ferentz loses that one, it is unlikely he will win any other trophy games. And if he goes 0-4 against Iowa's rivals 2 years in a row, no fast 40 times of recruits for 2016 are going to save him.
You are not going to "makeachange" by falsely saying Iowa is now Purdue when they are more like Rutgers or Minnesota, which after 10 years for me personally is unacceptable. We will see what the new president at Iowa thinks after next season, though.
I'll continue correcting every post I see until you people accept that 2008 was not a mediocre season. Deal with it, motherf***ers....(not you personally, gryzz, but in general)
And no you people under this impression can't argue that it was, either, nor should you try just because I posted this. You're wrong. Accept it and get back to impatiently waiting for the next chance to make bitter posts about the state of the current Iowa football team (or optimistic hopes if that suits you better).
Thanks and have a nice day.
Projecting your own problems much?Originally posted by BuddyRydell:
People have told you to put the bottle down, your on something, etc...
I just laughed, but the more you post, the more I believe they are correct. You are on something, for you can't possibly be this obtuse. Here is a number that might help:
Also, nice sig... good to see you exercising self restraint while anonymously posting on message boards.
Before posting again, please take this test:Originally posted by thirdandpunting:
Projecting your own problems much?Originally posted by BuddyRydell:
People have told you to put the bottle down, your on something, etc...
I just laughed, but the more you post, the more I believe they are correct. You are on something, for you can't possibly be this obtuse. Here is a number that might help:
Also, nice sig... good to see you exercising self restraint while anonymously posting on message boards.
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9 is unlikely with this level of talent given their schedule.
6 or 7 is about where they're at.
The only game I'll call specifically as a loss is isu. Doesn't seem to matter how bad they are, Ferentz has done less with more in this game multiple times during his tenure.
If they can get to 8 wins, that would be a relatively successful year.
6 or 7 is about where they're at.
The only game I'll call specifically as a loss is isu. Doesn't seem to matter how bad they are, Ferentz has done less with more in this game multiple times during his tenure.
If they can get to 8 wins, that would be a relatively successful year.
So Iowa losses to ISU and ILL St but still win 6? If Iowa losses their first 2 we are in big trouble and could be 2012 all over again. Plus don't think loss of Spearman is that big of a deal and Drew Ott is a heck of a football player on the defensive side. For the weak DBs Desmond King is pretty solid too. I'm sure even the legendary Mark Stoops would take King and Ott
Does someone have a "psychiatric disorder in which the patient experiences delusions of great power
and importance?"
Kirk has said that he has rededicated himself to recruiting and coaching; therefore, if htat is what has been missing the last five plus years then Iowa should be greatly improved and 9 or 10 wins is not out of the question.
"Kirk has said that he has rededicated himself to recruiting and coaching; therefore, if htat is what has been missing the last five plus years then Iowa should be greatly improved and 9 or 10 wins is not out of the question."
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Let's see, if he has just rededicated himself that means those recruits he rededicated himself to won't be ready until at least the 2016 or 17 season. Meanwhile Iowa has to go with the players he recruited when he wasn't rededicating himself. 9 or 10 wins? Out of the question with the players he wasn't dedicated to.
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Let's see, if he has just rededicated himself that means those recruits he rededicated himself to won't be ready until at least the 2016 or 17 season. Meanwhile Iowa has to go with the players he recruited when he wasn't rededicating himself. 9 or 10 wins? Out of the question with the players he wasn't dedicated to.
Here again is my prediction for the year. Save it or archive it. I'll enjoy my 'told you so's' at the end of the yr. lol
Road games at:
ISU - W ISU WILL BE WORSE THIS YEAR. Vengeance shall be ours 41-10 Iowa
Wisky - W New coach, no gordon=struggles. 24-21 Iowa
Northwestern - W Iowa finally has NW consistantly figured out? 28-17 Iowa
Indiana - W Are you kidding me? No Coleman. No defense. 42-13 Iowa
Nebraska - W New coach, no Bell, no late game miracles this year 14-10 Iowa
Home games:
Illinois State- W Great first test for the year. some kids will grow up before our eyes. 31-20 Iowa
Pittsburgh - W Conner can''t carry the new coach. 21-17 Iowa
N Texas State - W Weiger gets his first action in this blowout. 48-10 Iowa
Illinois - W Someone said Toss up? Are you mad? 35-17 Iowa
Maryland - W No Diggs, No Brownie, no Maryland winnie 27-3 Iowa
Minnesota - W That TE end went pro, thank goodness. The pigs comin home boys! 28-17 Iowa
Purdue - W The boils will be popped by the time they come to Iowa! 31-10 Iowa
B1G Championship. Jake Rudcock leads Michigan to the Championship game with a 28-24 Iowa
last minute score and the upset of Ohio $t. but his 4th and goal
pass from the seven is batted down as time expires allowing Iowa
to escape with the 28-24 victory in the championship game!!!
First round NCAA CJ is hurt in the 1st qtr. and although Weigers performs admirably, he
playoffs can't overcome a very good TCU team. 38-27 TCU
Alabama is 3 for 3 in national championships. Oregon is 0 for 2. Yeah that's substantial alright! Incase you don't already realize it, Oregon and Alabama are both playing for national championships. You're way off, but try and spin it however you want.
Everytime someone brings up new uniforms. You and others alike always bring up, "Alabama doesn't change their uniforms!". Alabama this and Alabama that. You can bank on it just as you can bank on the sun rising in the east every morning. When you do this, you are putting Iowa and Alabama in the same group. "Iowa's uniforms are iconic" is another that often comes up. No they aren't. We knocked off the Steelers. Alabama has had the same uniform for more than two decades longer than Iowa, and they aren't a knock off. That's iconic.
I like how you don't acknowledge KF's record as a head coach before Iowa. I was basically pointing out how Mark Stoops is more qualified than KF was whe he took over at Iowa. Are you saying PP is on the same level as Stoops as a D coordinator? Riiight....
Mark Stoops is taking over one of the worst programs historically in the SEC. KF took over a historically good Big Ten team. Looks like Mark Stoops is turning things around faster than KF did. So yeah, thus far Mark is proving he can coach. Nice try though.
Even with a mediocre schedule, this Iowa team is not talented enough to win 9 games. Even games where we should win like NW and IL, the gap in talent is not much.
I think we can feel good about 2008 - 2009 - 2010 - even if we did underachieve in 2 of those 3 years.
Having said that, it still leaves us with the harsh reality that 7 out of the previous 10 years we haven't been getting "elite" coaching. I don't know that you can argue we've even gotten "good" coaching in those 7 years.
Having said that, it still leaves us with the harsh reality that 7 out of the previous 10 years we haven't been getting "elite" coaching. I don't know that you can argue we've even gotten "good" coaching in those 7 years.
I found this thread interesting. All of the 'haters' from this thread should just keep their 'opinions' to themselves because they obviously had no clue what they are talking about. This Buddy Rydell person sure seems to know what he is talking about. Looks like he has it pegged. Was reading through some other threads and he was dead on about the changes to the running game that were coming, the development of the LB's, etc..
Flick where have you been, only here to bitch and are of very short supply.....
Which is one thing, but to completely disappear when his "fav team" is doing well is cowardly at the very least....we had to listen to his bile for so long and now he is just gone....lil bi+ch move
Updating this thread in an attempt to single out users is petty and immature. Let's not be so polarizing and enjoy the season together. I'm sure someone could go through your post history over the years and find some stupid posts. That goes for all of us.
To entertain your post, Flick is a friend of mine and he is certainly not upset over Iowa's success. As far as I can recall, he stopped posting over something that bothered him on HR. Nothing to do with the Iowa team. He's super pumped about the season as any Hawk fan would be.
No, not all of us. We are not talking about 'some stupid posts'. We're talking about a bunch of jerks (like your ol buddy, who is such a narcissist that he calls himself flick shagwell) who shanghai'd EVERY post for months on end rambling on about how bad iowa sucks, how bad the coaches are, how talentless our players are, etc. etc. etc...attacking anyone who tried to reason with them to calm down, and basically ruining this board for a lot of 'true fans'. These people need to be called out about how ridiculous they posted so we don't have a repeat of this everytime a bunch of immature, narcissist are disappointed in a college football team. Your ol buddy flick isn't posting because something upset him? But he's super pumped? But they disappointed him so he had to attack everyone? Thinks he's a 'sex god'? Sounds a little 'bi-polar' to me.
Sorry, but when fans predict the future as a forgone conclusion, and tells other fans to "wake up" and agree with them, I see nothing wrong with reminding them that they might not know everything.
Pointing out posting history absolutely lends to whether the poster's point has any relevance for the future.
It has a place. It is also fair.
I missed it too...I had Iowa at anywhere from 6-6 to possibly 10-2 if things broke well for them this year. Of course I could still wind up being correct...but something tells me they go over 10. I hope so at least.
It has a place. It is also fair.
I missed it too...I had Iowa at anywhere from 6-6 to possibly 10-2 if things broke well for them this year. Of course I could still wind up being correct...but something tells me they go over 10. I hope so at least.
To be fair. There are several posters who had an awful lot to say before the season started who seem to be absent now, and I'm not talking about those with multiple handles. Too bad they couldn't get over their hatred and just enjoy the season.
Well played, there are a handful of Debbie downers that had nothing good to say about the Hawks for months. It did get old, really glad they've crawled into their holes, hopefully never to be heard from again.
I predicted 7-5, like most fans. Really thought Pitt, NW, and Wisc. Would be losses for sure.
Great job by tge Hawks up to the break. Think we can now run the table at home. Indiana and Nebraska will be tough road games. Hoping now for 10-2, definitely want 11-1 which would take us to the championship game.
FWIW, I never once thought about giving up my tickets. Man has it been fun so far this year.
Go Hawks
I predicted 7-5, like most fans. Really thought Pitt, NW, and Wisc. Would be losses for sure.
Great job by tge Hawks up to the break. Think we can now run the table at home. Indiana and Nebraska will be tough road games. Hoping now for 10-2, definitely want 11-1 which would take us to the championship game.
FWIW, I never once thought about giving up my tickets. Man has it been fun so far this year.
Go Hawks
Well I for one hope he stays off b/c he was a douche for a long time.....glad hawks are doing well, glad he is enjoying himself, and most importantly glad he is gone
Whatever floats your boat. I still think quoting all the people that are wrong from this old thread in a manner of calling them out is pretty stupid and unnecessary. We are all Iowa fans. Even those you deem vile and disruptive.
I wonder if the OP is still hoping we can get Mark Stoops to come here and "turn around the program". Then again Kentucky has enough issues of their own this year.
Except for a select few there wasn't many here who had the Hawks 7-0, myself included who I thought my 9-3 was very optimistic, but most of us have loved being proven wrong on our predicitions. But there are a few trolls or doom and gloom fans who it is entertaining to see their early season predictions of being 0-2 vs the ISUs and all the negative comments on this team. And to no surprise basically all of them like the OP haven't been heard from since early-mid September.
Except for a select few there wasn't many here who had the Hawks 7-0, myself included who I thought my 9-3 was very optimistic, but most of us have loved being proven wrong on our predicitions. But there are a few trolls or doom and gloom fans who it is entertaining to see their early season predictions of being 0-2 vs the ISUs and all the negative comments on this team. And to no surprise basically all of them like the OP haven't been heard from since early-mid September.
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