If you are an NBA GM, would you draft Kris Murray?

[Hawksfor3]

I don't pretend to be an NBA expert but Kris doesn't look like he is ready to make the jump. Keegan was ready but Kris needs another year of college ball although I doubt he comes back.

Let's wait and see where he goes in the Draft, players are selected based on the needs of the team and how the Draftee fits within the Organization. I think Kris has a good upside as to his potential. He has length and can defend. It just comes down to what the Organization feels as to development, IMO.
In Keegan's case, he's not the number 1 scoring option. Maybe 4th or 5th? He is contributing in other ways when his shot isn't falling. He's fortunate to be able to start on a newly restructured Kings team, where he's gaining valuable experience, while not being pressured to score as much as the other more experienced players. Coach Brown has a short leash on all his players, especially if they don't defend.
Perhaps Kris will follow suit. Who knows? (The scouts do).

 

[WadeLookingbill]

A phenomenal Hawk from an amazing Iowa family. He’s just too left hand dominant, so I wouldn’t draft him on my team.
He had a play yesterday where it was an easy layup with the right and he just didn’t do it, apparently just not natural for him.
Love what he gave to the Hawks, hope he has a solid decade in the pros.

 

[Hawkfan_08]

I don't watch the NBA unless a team with a Hawk is playing so I'm completely unsure. We all know what Kris can be, it's a matter of if it can be replicated nightly.

I don't read into the "not showing emotion" thing. We have enough people going overboard on that end anyway. My concern would be physicality, consistancy, and defending

 

[Mohawkeye]

Lol, if you think thats the reason, they had much better options to pick from than going at Iowas best defender.

You go at a teams best offensive player to get them in foul trouble. Especially one that plays for Fran who has been told avoid fouls at all cost.

That and usually Kris was assigned to guarding the best wing In man defense.

 

[Franisdaman]

The way Iowa fans view players is off because they have no clue how the nba game works.

They see Kris struggling to drive into a packed lane in college and think that has anything to with the nba.

With almost no familiarity with pro basketball they think they know more than the team scouts.

Its embarrassing.

Agreed.

In the NBA, no one can be in the lane for more than 3 seconds. It opens the floor up, for sure.

In July of last year, Kris was seen as a Top 20 draft pick. Today? He's still seen as a Top 20 draft pick.

I remember how people on here lost their minds when Keegan & Kris were offered scholarships. At that time, some called for Fran's immediate firing. Now we have "fans" saying Kris is not first round draft pick material when he clearly is and will be.

It is indeed embarrassing.

 

[DirtyJohns97]

Agreed.

In the NBA, no one can be in the lane for more than 3 seconds. It opens the floor up, for sure.

In July of last year, Kris was seen as a Top 20 draft pick. Today? He's still seen as a Top 20 draft pick.

I remember how people on here lost their minds when Keegan & Kris were offered scholarships. At that time, some called for Fran's immediate firing. Now we have "fans" saying Kris is not first round draft pick material when he clearly is and will be.

It is indeed embarrassing.

How is speaking the truth embarrassing? You should be embarrassed

 

[BirdistheWord]

Keegan is gonna get a GM promoted Kris is going to get a GM fired

That is laughable. Kris likely will never be a superstar or even a primary scorer but he has a high floor, size, high iQ and is a good to very good shooter. He also does a lot of little things like rebound and is a versatile defender. Worst case he is a limited role player.

The analytics largely show him to be a highly efficient offensive player who does many things well.

One example...

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[HawkLogic]

Agreed.

In the NBA, no one can be in the lane for more than 3 seconds. It opens the floor up, for sure.

In July of last year, Kris was seen as a Top 20 draft pick. Today? He's still seen as a Top 20 draft pick.

I remember how people on here lost their minds when Keegan & Kris were offered scholarships. At that time, some called for Fran's immediate firing. Now we have "fans" saying Kris is not first round draft pick material when he clearly is and will be.

It is indeed embarrassing.

Getting beat by Richmond was embarrassing. Starting your own two boys, both inferior players, over two future NBA players was embarrassing. But hey, CMAC and PMAC both won sportsmanship awards.

 

[RocknRollface]

You’re embarrassing. You don’t know shit

Anything to add?

This wasn't even in question.

 

[ROCKY MOUNTAIN HAWK]

Soft, lacks killer instinct, but in the league today there is definitely a role for him.

This!

 

[Franisdaman]

In July of last year, Kris was seen as a Top 20 draft pick. Today? He's still seen as a Top 20 draft pick. I remember how people on here lost their minds when Keegan & Kris were offered scholarships. At that time, some called for Fran's immediate firing. Now we have "fans" saying Kris is not first round draft pick material when he clearly is and will be.

It is indeed embarrassing.

How is speaking the truth embarrassing? You should be embarrassed

You were saying?

 

[littlez]

What's embarrassing is 74% of so called fans in this poll wouldn't draft him. Here's what I find funny. About 85% of the people on this board haven't watched more than 20 games of the NBA since Michael Jordan quit playing for the Bulls, but continue to bitch and moan about it. However, the same amount of fans on here piss and moan about how physical college basketball is, but call the NBA "soft." The NBA game is called the way it is because the league realized 20 years ago they were tired of watching their stars get mugged, watching the Knicks and Pacers play games in the 80's and decided to call the game the way it should be called. Almost everyone on the court can hit a 3, forcing teams to come out and guard the entire court which leaves driving lanes open and shooters like Curry hitting from all over the court. If Kris can make a living just like Keegan as a smart, efficient player who can hit a 3 and guard several positions he can play 8-10 years.

 

[RocknRollface]

What's embarrassing is 74% of so called fans in this poll wouldn't draft him. Here's what I find funny. About 85% of the people on this board haven't watched more than 20 games of the NBA since Michael Jordan quit playing for the Bulls, but continue to bitch and moan about it. However, the same amount of fans on here piss and moan about how physical college basketball is, but call the NBA "soft." The NBA game is called the way it is because the league realized 20 years ago they were tired of watching their stars get mugged, watching the Knicks and Pacers play games in the 80's and decided to call the game the way it should be called. Almost everyone on the court can hit a 3, forcing teams to come out and guard the entire court which leaves driving lanes open and shooters like Curry hitting from all over the court. If Kris can make a living just like Keegan as a smart, efficient player who can hit a 3 and guard several positions he can play 8-10 years.

Yep, nba is no longer directly comparable with college the way it was 20 years ago.

20 years ago Garza would have been a lottery pick and Kris probably not drafted.

The two games have diverged significantly since then because of the reasons you said.

 

[jonesy5960]

All I have to add is that I couldn't be happier for Kris and the whole Murray family. They were/are everything that you'd want as representatives of Iowa athletics. Exemplary players and people all around and I hope they both have long successful careers. If anyone deserves it, it is them.

 

[TheTruthTheWholeTruth]

LOL what a thread

 

[Franisdaman]

What's embarrassing is 74% of so called fans in this poll wouldn't draft him.

Many people on here also thought Lukas Van Ness shouldn't have declared for the 2023 NFL Draft. They said he needed another year.

 

[Franisdaman]

Also, since the poll never closed, people are either now voting or changing their vote.

As of right now:

If you are an NBA GM, would you draft Kris Murray?​

• Yes​

  Votes: 41.............27.3%

• No​

  Votes: 109..........72.7%

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• Total voters 150

 

[littlez]

Also, since the poll never closed, people are either now voting or changing their vote.

As of right now:

If you are an NBA GM, would you draft Kris Murray?​

• Yes​

  Votes: 41.............27.3%

• No​

  Votes: 109..........72.7%

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• Total voters 150

Sad.

 

[Old_wrestling_fan]

Yep, nba is no longer directly comparable with college the way it was 20 years ago.

20 years ago Garza would have been a lottery pick and Kris probably not drafted.

The two games have diverged significantly since then because of the reasons you said.

Agreed. ^^ FWIW, I do not follow the NBA game much, but it did seem very apparent last night that almost all of the 1st round picks were 6'5"ish guards or 6'8" forwards. Other than the #1 pick at 7'4", or whatever, there seemed to be just two main body types getting picked.

The game has definitely changed, a lot of offense is based on the 3 point shot...not necessarily getting it "down low" on the block.

 

[RocknRollface]

LOL what a thread

Its a doozy.