Nope, won’t trade Connor (or Ash for that matter) for Ayo.
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Nope, won’t trade Connor (or Ash for that matter) for Ayo.
THIS! The "culture" at illannoy is toxic and eternal. Look for Mad Brad to hit the trail sooner, rather than later. Rumor has it he'll land at either Kansas, or Kansas State before the posse catches up to him for his very dirty dealings. A fitting ending would have him leave the ill whine eye under probation, if not the death sentence. He's a crook, just like the rest of 'em.
And Buffalo dickAnd Cockroach balls
Nope, won’t trade Connor (or Ash for that matter) for Ayo.
You serious Clark? I think this discussion has kinda slid off the rails at this point.
i kinda thought it slipped off the rails with the cockroach balls and buffalo dick posts but you draw the line at trading Ash for Ayo?
I meant the whole thread I guess but yours caught my eye. Not a coach in the country besides Fran would make this statement because well.... it's just silly. I realize you probably only said it in self defense but that doesn't make it any less ludicrous.
Well then you can just suck eggs, dog ass, cock roach balls, donkey ass, and buffalo dick (did I miss any) too then.
How old are you?
stats aside, how come iowa was 3rd again withthe best player in college?Naw, statistically Garza was MUCH better. Even though Ayo missed a few games they still played about the same minutes with Luka scoring over 150 more points. Hey but Ayo did have twice as many turnovers though.
Like I said, I don't at all disagree with the choice. And I appreciate the effort with the stats on defense but they really can't truly reflect an individual player's impact on that end of the court.
Garza is much more efficient, probably gets the most out of his abilities than any player I can think of over the past few decades. But Ayo does rank in the top 10 of something you can't measure - clutch plays, winning plays, killer plays.
stats aside, how come iowa was 3rd again withthe best player in college?
stats aside, how come iowa was 3rd again withthe best player in college?
Oh, c'mon man. Now you're just makin' shit up.But Ayo does rank in the top 10 of something you can't measure - clutch plays, winning plays, killer plays.
Well then you can just suck eggs, dog ass, cock roach balls, donkey ass, and buffalo dick (did I miss any) too then.
Because it’s a guard’s gamestats aside, how come iowa was 3rd again withthe best player in college?
Ah, the ignorance on full display. The issue at OSU was that Evans was directing players to agents to play in the NBA, and Underwood wasn't a part of that. It's exactly the opposite of helping your program to steer your players away from the program for personal gain wouldn't you say?Ah yes, the Illinois “culture” of Jimmy Collins, Lou Henson, Bill Self etc. Or just the “culture” that Underwood ran from after OSU. Or the “culture” that had him hire one of the nation’s notorious bagman. You must be so proud.
But Ayo does rank in the top 10 of something you can't measure - clutch plays, winning plays, killer plays.
Ah, the ignorance on full display. The issue at OSU was that Evans was directing players to agents to play in the NBA, and Underwood wasn't a part of that. It's exactly the opposite of helping your program to steer your players away from the program for personal gain wouldn't you say?
Garza's efficiency was better 35.1 to Ayo's 24.6, and that includes defensive stats. Not sure what your point is.Look, I think Garza was very deserving and have no problem with him winning.
But Ayo is one of the better defenders in the conference. Garza is a liability on that end of the court. Voters don't really consider that very much, but when you bring up the STATS! argument, I'm going to point out this hypocrisy.
I'm always amazed, whether its at Louisville, Arizona, KU or wherever, and people claim the assistants are doing illegal recruiting or paying players and the head coach has NO knowledge of these acts. You have to be totally ignorant, blind, or 4 years old to believe that could happen at ANY major program behind the head coaches back without him knowing full well. Just sayin........Ah, the ignorance on full display. The issue at OSU was that Evans was directing players to agents to play in the NBA, and Underwood wasn't a part of that. It's exactly the opposite of helping your program to steer your players away from the program for personal gain wouldn't you say?
Look, I think Garza was very deserving and have no problem with him winning.
But Ayo is one of the better defenders in the conference. Garza is a liability on that end of the court. Voters don't really consider that very much, but when you bring up the STATS! argument, I'm going to point out this hypocrisy.
I'm sure Underwood and every other staff in major college basketball is involved in gray area recruiting. I haven't been told his name explicitly, but I know it's the name of the game in recruiting. My buddy/ex-roommate coached at IMG Academy, another nationally ranked program, and is currently on an SEC staff. Literally every kid on the program was getting "help" from a college in one way or another. It's the nature of the game. The higher profile kids start becoming shady recruitments not because kids are getting money, shoes, jobs, cars, etc., but because they have people surrounding them that are also trying to get as much as they can even at the recruit's expense. Frankly, some of those people are just completely ignorant about the avenues they should be taking to get paid.I'm always amazed, whether its at Louisville, Arizona, KU or wherever, and people claim the assistants are doing illegal recruiting or paying players and the head coach has NO knowledge of these acts. You have to be totally ignorant, blind, or 4 years old to believe that could happen at ANY major program behind the head coaches back without him knowing full well. Just sayin........![]()