agreed... we hung tough, but they just had their way with the #5 team in the country...Illinois has a team that can beat Gonzaga.
They could win the whole thing. They are deep and athletic.
agreed... we hung tough, but they just had their way with the #5 team in the country...Illinois has a team that can beat Gonzaga.
They could win the whole thing. They are deep and athletic.
I will say that Iowa isn't the only team to get screwed by the B1G officials.
Would be nice to see some kind of effort to improve things in the B1G.
It's not a good thing to be known as a physical conference.... Because it CLEARLY doesn't result in championships.
"Best conference in the country".
No title in 20 years.
Well the 0.1% of Illinois fans are right to think he got him too high and that it was a good call.Everybody has their own perspective but from and Illinois fan I think the amount of hooks Garza gets away with (it's a lot) is fairly annoying.
But as biased fans we are all looking at what the other team gets away with (including me) and not what our team gets away with.
Another hot take that won't gain any likes is that Damonte Williams plays too edgy and loses his cool too often but the contact that was made was not above the shoulders on that flagrant.
That's how 99.9% of Illinois fans will see it and 99.9% of Iowa fans will say it was clear cut.
How many games does Cockburn foul out in the NCAA.
He foul out in any games in the B1G this season? I'll be interested to see how they adjust to not fouling on every possession
We need to find a way to limit them from playing with the frenetic dog-humping energy their grabby guards play with.agreed... we hung tough, but they just had their way with the #5 team in the country...
Well the 0.1% of Illinois fans are right to think he got him too high and that it was a good call.
They had a shot from the baseline after the call was announced that showed it clear as day why it was a flagrant 1.
People can hate the rule, but the call was correct.
Why are you arguing it if you don't care?.........Da'Monte's arm wasn't close to the head region on the replay. The announcer said it was the extension of the arm that was bad. I don't know the rule and don't care either way.
You guys seriously think you just routinely get screwed by refs letting the other team be “thugs” or “play rugby”?? Might need to adjust your own defensive intensity. You can choose to believe Illinois is “in trouble,” for the NCAA Tournament, but you’ll be in the small minority for a reason.
Good game, and good luck.
Maybe I’m wrong but if Curbelo was a Hawkeye I think you’d think he was the best guard in the country and the Hawks were destined to win it all, which they might or might not. Jbo is a better long range marksman so you lose that but you get a terrific ball handler distributor and dare I say it a much faster guard. Regardless I love all Bohannan has brought to the HawksWe need to find a way to limit them from playing with the frenetic dog-humping energy their grabby guards play with.
Maybe pay their opponents in each round to throw some bench guys out there and just land some elbow shots to wipe the smirks off their faces and wear them down little by little each game.
Especially with Curbelo, him taking a few elbows to his face would actually make an improvement.......
I see it as clear cut bias 11 free throws to 3 in first half. No way a grabby team only sends an opponent with a high level offense to the line 3 times.
Every Illinois player has a punchable face.Coburn is a matchup problem for sure ..... even though he does get away with MURDER. Thug
And the guy with the high hair has a punchable face.
Everybody has their own perspective but from and Illinois fan I think the amount of hooks Garza gets away with (it's a lot) is fairly annoying.
But as biased fans we are all looking at what the other team gets away with (including me) and not what our team gets away with.
Another hot take that won't gain any likes is that Damonte Williams plays too edgy and loses his cool too often but the contact that was made was not above the shoulders on that flagrant.
That's how 99.9% of Illinois fans will see it and 99.9% of Iowa fans will say it was clear cut.
I have morals.Maybe I’m wrong but if Curbelo was a Hawkeye I think you’d think he was the best guard in the country and the Hawks were destined to win it all, which they might or might not. Jbo is a better long range marksman so you lose that but you get a terrific ball handler distributor and dare I say it a much faster guard. Regardless I love all Bohannan has brought to the Hawks
Ok I’m wrong, no problemI have morals.
Curbelo is the kind of player that would be clapping, and frantically guarding his guy with his feet moving 100 mph, and trying to be two inches away from him wherever he goes while always having his hands all over him, and banging his chest, and bouncing up and down and waving his hands in the air and constantly yelling LETS GO after someone on his team makes a shot to trim their deficit to 108-52...................
I don't want that on my team, even if f***ing Illinois wins a f***ing national championship.
1. This post shows what a dumb homer you are.
2. They review hook and holds if Garza gets away A LOT as you say. Why is not reviewed as they review way too much nowadays? Since your are dumb I will answer it for you. It is because he doesn’t do it.
3. Now on the flagrant one. All three announcers plus the retired ref they went to ALL called it a flagrant.
4. Also re watch the game ans see how manny times the announcers who are neutral parties say Illinois got away with steps or a travel or a push off or a foul. Then count how many times they say Iowa got away with something.
But congrats to Illinois you finally have a good team and you did not have to pay recruits and cheat.
So you seriously don’t think that was a flagrant 1?Da'Monte's arm wasn't close to the head region on the replay. The announcer said it was the extension of the arm that was bad. I don't know the rule and don't care either way.
Kofi is far from a thug. Mild-mannered kid, actually.Coburn is a matchup problem for sure ..... even though he does get away with MURDER. Thug
And the guy with the high hair has a punchable face.
Not so sure about that. Doesn’t Underwood have a sketchy past?This post shows what a dumb homer you are.
They review hook and holds if Garza gets away A LOT as you say. Why is not reviewed as they review way too much nowadays? Since your are dumb I will answer it for you. It is because he doesn’t do it.
Now on the flagrant one. All three announcers plus the retired ref they went to ALL called it a flagrant.
Also re watch the game ans see how manny times the announcers who are neutral parties say Illinois got away with steps or a travel or a push off or a foul. Then count how many times they say Iowa got away with something.
But congrats to Illinois you finally have a good team and you did not have to pay recruits and cheat.
Maybe pay their opponents in each round to throw some bench guys out there and just land some elbow shots to wipe the smirks off their faces and wear them down little by little each game.
Especially with Curbelo, him taking a few elbows to his face would actually make an improvement.......
I have morals.
Not only was the other team hacking and not getting called but Iowa was literally not touching Illinois and getting called. That call on jbo right before the half was a travesty. And don't get me started on the travels... apparently if you have Illinois on your jersey dribbling is optional.In the first half, we tried to counteract physical defense and continual holding by attacking the basket, and we just didn't get calls when we drew contact. When the other team gets away with hacking the crap out of you and you're not a physical team, you're probably going to struggle to score.
Second half officiating still allowed a bit too much for my taste, but I thought it was more or less fine.
So you seriously don’t think that was a flagrant 1?
Baylor got put away by Oklahoma State pretty easily. Illinois can beat Baylor.They could, but Baylor put them away pretty easily. Illini have improved, but they only have one Kofi. Any game. the refs can put Kofi on bench they are beatable.
I don't think it is guaranteed B1G gets 1 or 2 teams to Final4. If Livers is out, then Michigan is beatable.
i Believe the rule is contact to the head or neck area. Maybe I am wrong on that. Either way he ended up hitting Connor in the head at the end of the playI don't know the rule, but it looked like a foul. The rules expert said they would be looking for contact with the head. I didn't see any. The announcer said it was the extension of the arm that got him.
We were within 5 late even with the bs refs.agreed... we hung tough, but they just had their way with the #5 team in the country...
Yeah well then he should f***ing play like it against Iowa.......Kofi is far from a thug. Mild-mannered kid, actually.
Stay classy fellow Hawk fans. The better team won.
Hey now........it's not me that would be committing the violence.Yeah, you've got morals alright. Shi**y, sore-loser, resort-to-violence morals.
He did need to stick with Perkins, Toussaint and Murray more in the 2nd half and even get Ulis in there.Cockburn manhandled Iowa.. I thought he committed about 32 offensive fouls but they weren’t calling those that way so we saw him dunk at will.. and all i could do was dream Iowa had anyone that could match his physicality.. with the way that game was officiated Iowa didn’t stand a chance. Bigger, Stronger, faster vs Iowa’s starting 5.. was also thinking Fran was gonna go to that line up he used to get Iowa back in the game he used in the previous Illinois game that brought Iowa back into the game BUT NOPE! stuck with his core mostly and it turned out just like the last 3 games!
I have morals.
Curbelo is the kind of player that would be clapping, and frantically guarding his guy with his feet moving 100 mph, and trying to be two inches away from him wherever he goes while always having his hands all over him, and banging his chest, and bouncing up and down and waving his hands in the air and constantly yelling LETS GO after someone on his team makes a shot to trim their deficit to 108-52...................
I don't want that on my team, even if f***ing Illinois wins a f***ing national championship.
Our boyz played their hearts out but if you did not think IL was in control much of that game then we definitely have different viewpoints...yeah, I get the (lack of) foul calling on them was ridiculous. I would imagine most neutral observers would say that IL team would probably beat Iowa 8 out 10 times. No shame in that, they are loaded to the tilt this season...Having said that, The Dance/NC is there for the taking, I am definitely not going to rule Iowa out.We were within 5 late even with the bs refs.
Hopefully only one. Lose and your done.How many games does Cockburn foul out in the NCAA.
He foul out in any games in the B1G this season? I'll be interested to see how they adjust to not fouling on every possession
Iowa should have been shooting free throws 10 minutes in of each half. Get bentWe were dumping the ball down to Kofi nonstop while you guys were jacking 3s.
You guys shot nearly 33% more from 3 and had 3 less offensive rebounds and we shot a whole 6 more free throws and you act like those numbers are daunting.
I’m with you but since that was the noun being tossed around here all willy nilly I used it as well in my post to say those kids that are being called “thugs” took it to Iowa because we lacked the players that could match that style of play.. Then started to cry about officiating..Think a lot of fans on here need to re-evaluate referring to opposing players as "thugs". Not a great look for our fan base.