Imagine Being a Farmer Who Voted for Trump

[NoleATL]

This time around, the damage could be more severe. Wednesday's announcement elevated tariffs on three of America's five largest agricultural trading partners—China (34 percent), the European Union (20 percent), and Japan (24 percent). Mexico and Canada, which are America's two largest trading partners, were exempt from the list but have faced 25 percent duties on certain products since March. Together, these five markets account for more than 60 percent of American agricultural exports and retaliatory tariffs have already been enacted by some. China has implemented a 10 percent to 15 percent tariff on American soybeans, cotton, pork, and poultry. In March, Canada announced retaliatory tariffs on a number of American goods, including $5.8 billion worth of agricultural products. The European Union, meanwhile, is considering a suite of tariffs that will impact the agricultural sector.

How Trump's new tariffs will make farming more expensive

Americans love foreign products, but is our indulgence in Canadian whiskey, Mexican avocados, and Brazilian coffee a bad thing? If you ask President

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[QChawks]

 

[Thunderlips71]

They’re all sitting around the casino right now offering one another assurances that it won’t be that bad.

 

[IACub]

No larger group in America that will consistently vote against their own best interests than farmers.

 

[Joes Place]

 

[IACub]

"We can't compete with those corporate farms that we totally voted into existence!"

 

[prlyles]

If Trump goes by his first term the farmers have nothing to worry about, Uncle Sam will bail them out.

 

[hawkjt]

Article in yesterday's WSJ went on at length how Brazil has been a huge winner in world ag markets since Trump's first trade war in 2018 and now stand even more prepared to add to their growing market share this time around.
Chinese buy soy exclusively from Brazil now and have plunged 700 million in infrastructure in Brazil which has hampered their ag sector forever.
The Chinese market is now gone and ain't coming back.
Irreparable damage to Iowa farmers.
Reap what you sow.

 

[WadeLookingbill]

If Trump goes by his first term the farmers have nothing to worry about, Uncle Sam will bail them out.

Current forecasts I've seen say it'll cost more for the US to pay these bailouts during the trade war/recession than any gains from the tariffs. And when the Dem wins the presidency in 2028 (because it's the economy, stupid), the process to fix the damage will begin in earnest.

 

[sabula]

Farmers are getting exactly what the dupes voted for. Too bad. So sad their idiocy is dragging others down with them.

 

[ISUBryce]

I think they know daddy Trump will come in and save them.

 

[stickman80]

They won't care....as long as the seed corn company still gives them a free hat.

 

[sabula]

They won't care....as long as the seed corn company still gives them a free hat.

And the govt keeps on giving them free checks.

 

[win4jj]

Every farmer I know voted for Trump. Every farmer I know hates to lose money. This will get interesting to hear there excuses of how this is not Trump’s fault.

 

[jasonrann]

Just wait two weeks.

 

[onlyTheObvious]

The land owner farmer or the poor bastard that just gets paid as a farm hand?

 

[95Hawk]

Poor bastards. Might have to drive the $90k Silverado a bit longer until the socialism hits their bank accounts.

 

[Obviously Oblivious]

Current forecasts I've seen say it'll cost more for the US to pay these bailouts during the trade war/recession than any gains from the tariffs. And when the Dem wins the presidency in 2028 (because it's the economy, stupid), the process to fix the damage will begin in earnest.

I’m not sure we make it to 2028.

 

[Joes Place]

"We can't compete with those corporate farms that we totally voted into existence!"

And w/ a decent "inheritance tax", more of them would be broken down into more "family-sized" enterprises....

 

[IACub]

And w/ a decent "inheritance tax", more of them would be broken down into more "family-sized" enterprises....

Don't you mean a DEATH TAX? It sounds super scarier that way.

 

[Randon]

Farmers realize that Trump's tariffs will deeply affect their foreign markets but they could care less because they know Uncle Sam (US taxpayers) will save their arses with massive subsidies!

 

[Mayland]

It will be interesting. About half of u.s. soybeans are exported to China. At 10% I think we’re still cheaper than Brazilian soybeans though.

 

[Hammerhead02]

It will be interesting. About half of u.s. soybeans are exported to China. At 10% I think we’re still cheaper than Brazilian soybeans though.

15%

 

[RicoSuave102954]

This time around, the damage could be more severe. Wednesday's announcement elevated tariffs on three of America's five largest agricultural trading partners—China (34 percent), the European Union (20 percent), and Japan (24 percent). Mexico and Canada, which are America's two largest trading partners, were exempt from the list but have faced 25 percent duties on certain products since March. Together, these five markets account for more than 60 percent of American agricultural exports and retaliatory tariffs have already been enacted by some. China has implemented a 10 percent to 15 percent tariff on American soybeans, cotton, pork, and poultry. In March, Canada announced retaliatory tariffs on a number of American goods, including $5.8 billion worth of agricultural products. The European Union, meanwhile, is considering a suite of tariffs that will impact the agricultural sector.

How Trump's new tariffs will make farming more expensive

Americans love foreign products, but is our indulgence in Canadian whiskey, Mexican avocados, and Brazilian coffee a bad thing? If you ask President

reason.com

What were the Tariffs on American Agriculture products prior to Wednesday's announcement? We all know these countries had tariffs on American goods before Trump fired back at them.

 

[Tom Paris]

No larger group in America that will consistently vote against their own best interests than farmers.

But they get to because they know the rest of us will bail them out.

 

[RicoSuave102954]

But they get to because they know the rest of us will bail them out.

Kinda like welfare and forgiving student loans, right?

 

[Obviously Oblivious]

It will be interesting. About half of u.s. soybeans are exported to China. At 10% I think we’re still cheaper than Brazilian soybeans though.

We’re not. Brazil exports about 3.8 B bushels annually worldwide. The US exports less than half that amount.

 

[bcherod]

Article in yesterday's WSJ went on at length how Brazil has been a huge winner in world ag markets since Trump's first trade war in 2018 and now stand even more prepared to add to their growing market share this time around.
Chinese buy soy exclusively from Brazil now and have plunged 700 million in infrastructure in Brazil which has hampered their ag sector forever.
The Chinese market is now gone and ain't coming back.
Irreparable damage to Iowa farmers.
Reap what you sow.

Tried to explain that Brazil was really going to profit from this. It was just going to push them to solidify their alliance with China.

People discount Brazil, hell most Americans don’t even know they speak Portuguese, not Spanish. Most Americans don’t realize that Brazil is larger than the continental United States.

They are already one of the top beef producers in the world.

Trump just handed a lot of our exports over to Brazil on a silver platter.

 

[bcherod]

Every farmer I know voted for Trump. Every farmer I know hates to lose money. This will get interesting to hear there excuses of how this is not Trump’s fault.

My farmers didn’t vote for Trump, but they’re the little guys that don’t do GMOs. They also raise pastured beef and pork. They partnered with the grain farmers to make organic feed, thus reducing the cost of the pastured meat.

Most do chickens as well.

 

[jonesy5960]

My farmers didn’t vote for Trump, but they’re the little guys that don’t do GMOs. They also raise pastured beef and pork. They partnered with the grain farmers to make organic feed, thus reducing the cost of the pastured meat.

Most do chickens as well.

Huh. Where are your farmers? I've got a place out in NW Illinois and they're total MAGA.

 

[Tiny Hands Trump]

They’re all sitting around the casino right now offering one another assurances that it won’t be that bad.

They are waiting for more socialism to save them while they bitch about anyone else on welfare.

 

[bcherod]

Huh. Where are your farmers? I've got a place out in NW Illinois and they're total MAGA.

Upstate NY and Vermont. Unfortunately I don’t live there anymore, but I have some locals here in the Panhandle.

However, I know there’s one in Illinois, middle of the state.

I ordered from them for a huge gathering at my parents’ house in Southern Illinois.
Ordered a brisket. It was $70, but it was so huge, we had to cut it in thirds.

My dad was sick then and if I was doing most of the cooking, there wasn’t going to be any Monsanto GMO shit.

 

[scruffyhawk]

Tried to explain that Brazil was really going to profit from this. It was just going to push them to solidify their alliance with China.

People discount Brazil, hell most Americans don’t even know they speak Portuguese, not Spanish. Most Americans don’t realize that Brazil is larger than the continental United States.

They are already one of the top beef producers in the world.

Trump just handed a lot of our exports over to Brazil on a silver platter.

The interplay between Brazil and the US has become more complex than most realize. Matt is an interesting character. I knew him well once upon a time, and there was a trend for awhile of guys farming in two countries. Matt is the only one I know who still does.

 

[win4jj]

My farmers didn’t vote for Trump, but they’re the little guys that don’t do GMOs. They also raise pastured beef and pork. They partnered with the grain farmers to make organic feed, thus reducing the cost of the pastured meat.

Most do chickens as well.

I respect your response. But the farmers I know are the typical grain farmer in eastern Iowa. They are indoctrinated to do the same things that have always been done. And Trump has given them this weird and horrible ok that hating liberals and black folks is okay.

 

[bcherod]

I respect your response. But the farmers I know are the typical grain farmer in eastern Iowa. They are indoctrinated to do the same things that have always been done. And Trump has given them this weird and horrible ok that hating liberals and black folks is okay.

I understand.

And as I told some of the family, you don’t have to eat the way I do, but I eat food at your house and don’t complain. When I buy it, I make the choice.

Meanwhile I’m just a backyard farmer. If I could have chickens, I would. But, many of my friends here do keep chickens b

 

[TailgateTom]

If Trump goes by his first term the farmers have nothing to worry about, Uncle Sam will bail them out.

They like to bitch about “handouts” while having their hands out. Handouts are only a problem if you’re not rich.

 

[win4jj]

I understand.

And as I told some of the family, you don’t have to eat the way I do, but I eat food at your house and don’t complain. When I buy it, I make the choice.

Meanwhile I’m just a backyard farmer. If I could have chickens, I would. But, many of my friends here do keep chickens b

Agreed. The American farmer has immense power to dictate several things within this country and across the world. Food security is literally in our hands.

 

[bcherod]

The interplay between Brazil and the US has become more complex than most realize. Matt is an interesting character. I knew him well once upon a time, and there was a trend for awhile of guys farming in two countries. Matt is the only one I know who still does.

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That is really interesting. He probably knows a bunch of people I know.

One of my friends was sent to HS in the US and university in UK.

His family were bankers, but they had fazendas in the state of São Paulo. He brought the hybrid corn from the US in the ‘60’s and encouraged his family to grow it.

 

[scruffyhawk]

Agreed. The American farmer has immense power to dictate several things within this country and across the world. Food security is literally in our hands.

Interestingly 40 years ago farmers were paid to store grain on farm as carryover, and to not plant set aside acres. Today Brazil has taken off and corn is grown in regions of the US varieties didn't exist for 40 years ago.

US Corn production in bushels has essentially doubled in those 40 years.

The nation's corn production rebounded in 1984 to 7.65... - UPI Archives

The nation's corn production rebounded in 1984 to 7.65 billion bushels, up 83 percent from a drought-shriveled 1983 crop to become the fourth largest harvest...

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USDA forecasts US corn production down and soybean production up from 2023

USDA National Agricultural Statistics Service Information. NASS publications cover a wide range of subjects, from traditional crops, such as corn and wheat, to specialties, such as mushrooms and flowers; from calves born to hogs slaughtered; from agricultural prices to land in farms. The agency...

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[Jerome Silberman]

No worries the esteemed Governor Reynolds has their back.

“The Biden administration consistently ignored the needs of Iowa farmers. They failed to deliver a Farm Bill, refused to expand market access, and turned a balanced ag trade situation into a shocking $50 billion deficit. Instead of standing up to countries like Brazil, Biden chose to reward them - importing more ethanol after they slapped tariffs on ours.

President Trump is using tariffs as leverage - to force our trading partners to the table and put America’s farmers first. My job is to protect Iowans, and I’m working directly with the administration to ease the short-term impact, keep our ag economy strong, and open the door to new export opportunities.”

Gov. Reynolds issues statement on tariffs going into effect on ‘Liberation Day’

Today, Governor Kim Reynolds released the following statement on President Donald J. Trump’s rollout of taxes on foreign imports.

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You know what, never mind. She's operating on faith as well. Best of luck to all of you that work in ag support fields.