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In 2020, Wisconsin plays ND @ Lambeau and NW @ Wrigley

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And Iowa? The Hawkeyes are scheduled to face another scintillating non-con slate featuring UNI, Northern Illinois, and Iowa State, all @ Kinnick Stadium.

And we wonder why Wisconsin has become the leader of the Big Ten West....

Wisconsin continues to out-schedule Iowa and, as of now, to outplay them. Maybe it's time for Barta, KF, and gang to take notice and turn things around in both areas.
 
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This is the same for Nebraska, for example this year, what are we going to gain from playing Troy, a good mid-major that could very well upset us, why not just add another p5 opponent instead, a lot less to lose and more to gain. I like big Non-Con games, it’s fun watching the b10 dominate in noncon, Iowa vs some of these teams like Oklahoma, Notre Dame, etc would be must see imo.
 
aristotleiowa said:
And Iowa? The Hawkeyes are scheduled to face another scintillating non-con slate featuring UNI, Northern Illinois, and Iowa State, all @ Kinnick Stadium.

And we wonder why Wisconsin has become the leader of the Big Ten West....

Wisconsin continues to out-schedule Iowa and, as of now, to outplay them. Maybe it's time for Barta, KF, and gang to take notice and turn things around in both areas.
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Seriously do we need to go down the scheduling issue again. First off we all remember watching Pinstripe bowl and how crappy it was on a baseball field even if it wasn't frozen setup is awful. After last time N'western played at Wrigley against Illinois I'd rather play in their dump of a stadium instead of there. Only plus would be that Wrigleyville is across the street.

As has been discussed ad nauseam with 9 conference games and 3 non conference and Iowa's stated need and want to play 7 home games we are stuck with only ISU for power 5 teams until contract expires in 2023. Which both ADs on record liking the game and I don't see it going away anytime soon. Minus Pitt and PSU Iowa faces a conundrum of being the only other Big 10 team with a rival in another power 5 conference that isn't in the Big 10 that has been played for 40 years + in a row. Iowa's best chance of scheduling another power 5 team is when Barta was on record after first week in 16' saying he'd be open maybe once every so often to play a defacto 7th home game at a neutral site close against another power 5 team where Iowa can gain revenue and place where lot of Iowa fans can travel to like Soldier Field.
 
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Seriously do we need to go down the scheduling issue again. First off we all remember watching Pinstripe bowl and how crappy it was on a baseball field even if it wasn't frozen setup is awful. After last time N'western played at Wrigley against Illinois I'd rather play in their dump of a stadium instead of there. Only plus would be that Wrigleyville is across the street.

As has been discussed ad nauseam with 9 conference games and 3 non conference and Iowa's stated need and want to play 7 home games we are stuck with only ISU for power 5 teams until contract expires in 2023. Which both ADs on record liking the game and I don't see it going away anytime soon. Minus Pitt and PSU Iowa faces a conundrum of being the only other Big 10 team with a rival in another power 5 conference that isn't in the Big 10 that has been played for 40 years + in a row. Iowa's best chance of scheduling another power 5 team is when Barta was on record after first week in 16' saying he'd be open maybe once every so often to play a defacto 7th home game at a neutral site close against another power 5 team where Iowa can gain revenue and place where lot of Iowa fans can travel to like Soldier Field.
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This. There are many of use who aren't thrilled about being stuck playing ISU as our only P5 (barely) non-con game for the forseeable future. However, that's the way it is and the math says getting more interesting P5 opponents is highly unlikely. Just like there's little value to us playing ISU, for a big name program, there's little value in playing Iowa, especially if it's not a home-and-home.


This isn't rocket science, but there's been a steady stream of people who continue to bitch about the situation...either because they're too stupid to comprehend the situation or too stubborn to deal with it.
 
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I haven't read the replies I'll just assume someone said, "Everyone else plays an OOC as embarrassing as Iowa's."
Which isn't true . . . has never been true . . . and never will be true.
 
JoelBittner said:
I haven't read the replies I'll just assume someone said, "Everyone else plays an OOC as embarrassing as Iowa's."
Which isn't true . . . has never been true . . . and never will be true.
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Maybe not EVERYONE but certainly most do.
 
JoelBittner said:
I haven't read the replies I'll just assume someone said, "Everyone else plays an OOC as embarrassing as Iowa's."
Which isn't true . . . has never been true . . . and never will be true.
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In any given year, the vast majority do. Some can make exceptions because they aren't limited to one away game every other year and committed to a home and home with a team like ISU. But don't let the facts get in the way of your heartfelt opinion.
 
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Is there another state that has 2 P5 teams in different conferences where they only play 3 non conference games? The only thing close is Pitt/PSU but even Pitt has 4 non conference games.
 
JoelBittner said:
I haven't read the replies I'll just assume someone said, "Everyone else plays an OOC as embarrassing as Iowa's."
Which isn't true . . . has never been true . . . and never will be true.
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Appalachian State, Kent State, and Pitt. Penn State’s OOC which I see about the same if not weaker than Iowa’s 2017 OOC. These schedules are about what everybody in the B1G does. If you go by what people post here and not actually LOOK at the other team’s schedules you are going to be misinformed.
 
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This is why Iowa will never take the next step up. They are completely satisfied playing UNI, random MAC school, and Iowa State each year. Maybe we sprinkle in a sun belt team instead of UNI. It gets old.
 
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I agree the scheduling needs to pick up. Assuming Iowa will continue to play ISU, it would be expensive for Iowa to give up a home game - but it's really just 1 game every two years, assuming the could get a home/home schedule with someone like ND or an SEC power. I think it would be worth it - and probably necessary to improve fan support and recruiting.

Personally, I don't think Barta/Ferentz put together this weak schedule because they are afraid to lose. I think it's about revenue. But, I could be wrong.
 
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hawkcub said:
Is there another state that has 2 P5 teams in different conferences where they only play 3 non conference games? The only thing close is Pitt/PSU but even Pitt has 4 non conference games.
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Clemson-South Carolina
Florida-Florida State

...are a couple that come to mind off the top of my head.

*Edit: maybe those schools don’t have the 3 OOC game restriction. If not, then never mind.
 
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aristotleiowa said:
And Iowa? The Hawkeyes are scheduled to face another scintillating non-con slate featuring UNI, Northern Illinois, and Iowa State, all @ Kinnick Stadium.

And we wonder why Wisconsin has become the leader of the Big Ten West....

Wisconsin continues to out-schedule Iowa and, as of now, to outplay them. Maybe it's time for Barta, KF, and gang to take notice and turn things around in both areas.
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Wiscy doesn't play a single power 5 OOC game in 2017/18/19. I like how you forgot to mention that......
 
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LaQuintaHawkeye said:
Clemson-South Carolina
Florida-Florida State

...are a couple that come to mind off the top of my head.

*Edit: maybe those schools don’t have the 3 OOC game restriction. If not, then never mind.
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The ACC and Sec play only 8 conference games. In the SEC they mostly play 1 P5 team and 3 patsies.
 
H4wkfan4life said:
Wiscy doesn't play a single power 5 OOC game in 2017/18/19. I like how you forgot to mention that......
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BYU had been a better program than about half of the P5s until last year.

Not sure what happened with the 2019 scheduling.
 
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Wiscy doesn't play a single power 5 OOC game in 2017/18/19. I like how you forgot to mention that......
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Your not mentioning they have played Alabama and LSU in the non con recently and Do play a solid BYU and USF program in the near future. Night and day difference between wiscy scheduling and Iowa. The Iowa state game is a very convenient excuse, there have been plenty of opportunities to let that contract die.

Let us not act like they couldn't break the ISU contract today if they wanted. Someone much smarter than myself explained how it would work. Iowa would pay ISU a bunch of money, ISU would take Iowa to court(maybe), Iowa would pay ISU more money (larger maybe), Iowa would move on and could advance Iowa state would be F'd because who is going to pick up ISU equal to Iowa.
 
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I said this before. When ISU wouldn't let Iowa out without a lawsuit, the ND game went to Whiskey. Period. Iowa needs the home games. ND wanted a home and home in Chicago with Iowa. Barta went to Pollard and Pollard threatened a lawsuit. Barta backed off for political reasons. Was gonna be night games with an ABC game with Iowa home and NBC with ND home team. The Iowa foundation which I am a member of and a head trustee's son for ND who I went to law school with confirmed it. Pollard threatened holy hell if we pulled out for 2 years. Think about it. ISU has not had a P5 team in a home and home since the 90's with Minnesota besides Iowa. Christ they played at Akon last year as a home and home. ISU deal screws Iowa with. 9 game conference. And ISU can't get better than Akron for a home and home. Sick.
 
Wasn't - it is not the money. It is the fall-out. Every ISU fan wants/needs the game. A percentage of Hawks want the game. What would the Rag or ISU message boards do without the game? Jesus CF would close down if they couldn't talk Hawks. Barta took the political route. Fine. ND wanted Iowa for 2 years at Soldier's Field. Period. 2 biggest alumni bases in Chicago are Iowa and ND. Driving distance. But Pollard pitched his fit and Barta wanted nothing to do with more bad press. I have the inside but even if you don't believe me read the internet where it is discussed. Iowa is screwed with ISU game unless the Big 10 goes to 8 games or Iowa wants to give up home game revenue. Look at who we played before. Arizona, ASU, Pitt, Cuse, etc. ISU if not for Iowa gets Akron home and home. Total joke.
 
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When the B1G was only playing 8 conference games, Iowa was one of only a handful of teams to play 2 P5 out of conference games. Pitt, Arizona, ASI, Syracuse, Nebraska early on plus ISU. Would people be happy if Iowa missed a bowl game each year because they played an extra P5 game then everyone would complain about that.
 
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KujawaFan said:
I said this before. When ISU wouldn't let Iowa out without a lawsuit, the ND game went to Whiskey. Period. Iowa needs the home games. ND wanted a home and home in Chicago with Iowa. Barta went to Pollard and Pollard threatened a lawsuit. Barta backed off for political reasons. Was gonna be night games with an ABC game with Iowa home and NBC with ND home team. The Iowa foundation which I am a member of and a head trustee's son for ND who I went to law school with confirmed it. Pollard threatened holy hell if we pulled out for 2 years. Think about it. ISU has not had a P5 team in a home and home since the 90's with Minnesota besides Iowa. Christ they played at Akon last year as a home and home. ISU deal screws Iowa with. 9 game conference. And ISU can't get better than Akron for a home and home. Sick.
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Thanks, good intel and makes sense. Bottom line, people can call me stupid or stubborn or whatever, but the iowa administration did not get it done and Wisconsin did. That is a fact. The ISU thing has been crappy from the start and equates to the ol' "the sun was in my eyes" excuse. ###
 
KujawaFan said:
I said this before. When ISU wouldn't let Iowa out without a lawsuit, the ND game went to Whiskey. Period. Iowa needs the home games. ND wanted a home and home in Chicago with Iowa. Barta went to Pollard and Pollard threatened a lawsuit. Barta backed off for political reasons. Was gonna be night games with an ABC game with Iowa home and NBC with ND home team. The Iowa foundation which I am a member of and a head trustee's son for ND who I went to law school with confirmed it. Pollard threatened holy hell if we pulled out for 2 years. Think about it. ISU has not had a P5 team in a home and home since the 90's with Minnesota besides Iowa. Christ they played at Akon last year as a home and home. ISU deal screws Iowa with. 9 game conference. And ISU can't get better than Akron for a home and home. Sick.
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Great info.

So, any idea of the revenue hit Iowa would take if they did 2 games in Chicago with ND?
 
KujawaFan said:
Wasn't - it is not the money. It is the fall-out. Every ISU fan wants/needs the game. A percentage of Hawks want the game. What would the Rag or ISU message boards do without the game? Jesus CF would close down if they couldn't talk Hawks. Barta took the political route. Fine. ND wanted Iowa for 2 years at Soldier's Field. Period. 2 biggest alumni bases in Chicago are Iowa and ND. Driving distance. But Pollard pitched his fit and Barta wanted nothing to do with more bad press. I have the inside but even if you don't believe me read the internet where it is discussed. Iowa is screwed with ISU game unless the Big 10 goes to 8 games or Iowa wants to give up home game revenue. Look at who we played before. Arizona, ASU, Pitt, Cuse, etc. ISU if not for Iowa gets Akron home and home. Total joke.
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I have heard that and also believe it to be true. There is/were still options.
 
aristotleiowa said:
And Iowa? The Hawkeyes are scheduled to face another scintillating non-con slate featuring UNI, Northern Illinois, and Iowa State, all @ Kinnick Stadium.

And we wonder why Wisconsin has become the leader of the Big Ten West....

Wisconsin continues to out-schedule Iowa and, as of now, to outplay them. Maybe it's time for Barta, KF, and gang to take notice and turn things around in both areas.
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Barta and ferentz are attached at the hip on this. They aren’t interested in leaving iowa city or playing anyone at all. When the confwas cut in two and we were placed in the watered down side, they both knew the lottery was one. All they had to do was win three conference games to reach a bowl...the proverbial standard at iowa.
 
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When the B1G was only playing 8 conference games, Iowa was one of only a handful of teams to play 2 P5 out of conference games. Pitt, Arizona, ASI, Syracuse, Nebraska early on plus ISU. Would people be happy if Iowa missed a bowl game each year because they played an extra P5 game then everyone would complain about that.
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Yes. Pretending you are good because you superficially scheduled yourself into a bowl isn’t my thing
 
If I were UW, I'd be pissed off playing a game at Wrigley. Who wants to play a game that they can only play in one direction?

NU fans are PISSED. They gave a home game away for that crap.
 
bagdropper said:
If I were UW, I'd be pissed off playing a game at Wrigley. Who wants to play a game that they can only play in one direction?

NU fans are PISSED. They gave a home game away for that crap.
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Wisconsin likes the facilities ( compared to Dyche Stadium) and the chance for even more Badger fans to attend.
 
Hawk 4 - I don't have numbers on revenue hit. Obviously collateral hit to businesses in Iowa City. Which would only be 1 time in 2 years since would be in Ames once then anyway. But it was my understanding each home team with Iowa and ND would take their gate. Similar to when we played NIU in Chicago. Quite frankly, the key is more being on that stage that time of year in a night game against ND versus playing ISU as well as ISU frickin' whining cause they can't get a P5 team to do a home and home and their entire relevance or lack thereof is based on Iowa. I mean really, Akron in an away game last year?! So tired of pandering to this little brother. Get off our shoulders and saying you are tall.
 
Big Ten 2017

Indiana - plays Virginia

Maryland - plays Texas

Michigan - Fla & Cincinatti

Michigan State - Notre Dame

Minnesota - Oregon State

Nebraska - Oregon

Ohio State - Oklahoma

Penn State - Pitt

Rutgers - Washington
 
Wasnt-drunk-didnt-troll said:
Your not mentioning they have played Alabama and LSU in the non con recently and Do play a solid BYU and USF program in the near future. Night and day difference between wiscy scheduling and Iowa. The Iowa state game is a very convenient excuse, there have been plenty of opportunities to let that contract die.

Let us not act like they couldn't break the ISU contract today if they wanted. Someone much smarter than myself explained how it would work. Iowa would pay ISU a bunch of money, ISU would take Iowa to court(maybe), Iowa would pay ISU more money (larger maybe), Iowa would move on and could advance Iowa state would be F'd because who is going to pick up ISU equal to Iowa.
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Why mention it....it's already been mentioned ;).

I like the ISU game :D!
We should just play 2 OOC power 5 teams.
Until I see REAL number to show otherwise, I don't see how playing north texas twice will make more money than playings lsu/etc once.
Also, what fan would really rather watch us play n texas/miami oh etc twice at home vs 1 game vs a real team?

I'm not gonna sit and debate it, because it goes nowhere. All I'll say is show me numbers where we can't make as much money with 6 home games vs 7.
 
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