So? It does nothing to help the conference vs others when it comes bowl time!
Every b1g team should be forced to play an ooc power 5 team every year. I'll add ND as they basically play a power 5 schedule as well.
Every b1g team should be forced to play an ooc power 5 team every year. I'll add ND as they basically play a power 5 schedule as well.
Like it or not we are stuck playing ISU for the foreseeable future. So any of these arguments needs to start with Iowa playing them. That's just the facts. We are stuck like no other school in that regard. I guess Iowa State can make that claim also. All other power 5 schools with two programs in the state either have four out of conference games or are in the same conference.
Iowa plays Iowa State. Every one of those programs do not have the Iowa State problem. Penn State and Pitt play but it's a four-game series and are not saddled like Iowa is with Iowa State. Would it be nice to have a 2-year break from Iowa State. absolutely but it's probably not happening if you listen to Barta whenever the subject comes up. Also I wouldn't include Cincinnati in your listings the AAC is not the Big East. An AAC team needs to go undefeated to even come close to being talked about.
Wrigley renovations made playing on one side not a reality anymore. But playing a football game in a baseball stadium still isn't great. Outside of the novelty of Wrigley.
Someone tell me why Wisconsin can afford to play six home games and a neutral site game in 2020 but Iowa can’t. Is Wisconsin that much better off financially? That’s the excuse everyone uses; that Iowa HAS to have 7 home games.
What about 2016? Don’t blame ISU when a big game could happen if Barta wanted it to happen.
What about 2016? Don’t blame ISU when a big game could happen if Barta wanted it to happen.
It is a made up excuse to fit their agenda. Iowa football throws away more resources than most colleges have in total. They play in the idea that somehow, the city of iowa city would have to shut down fiscally with one less game. Never mind the fact it survived for decades with less. Furthermore, why is it iowa footballs problem to cater to it anyway. Tired and lame excuse like the rest
Often schools get more money from other sources(TV,venue) to make up for the loss. I don't get your 2016 argument. It's no different then any other year we have played Iowa State at home. It's clear Barta likes this game. Everybody who says just get rid of the game is not dealing in reality.
Helping the city of Iowa city has never been the reason that's been given for needing 7 games. No matter how much your fantasy world believes it.
It’s been the only sell out for Barta lately so he gets full gate from Kinnick at higher than normal ticket prices less the cut ISU gets.
But I’d like to set it go away every two years -two on, two off. Both programs need to schedule some teams they want to recruit players from - VA Tech, Georgia, Georgia Tech, Ole Miss, MSU, Texas teams, etc.
Why mention it....it's already been mentioned.
I like the ISU game
We should just play 2 OOC power 5 teams.
Until I see REAL number to show otherwise, I don't see how playing north texas twice will make more money than playings lsu/etc once.
Also, what fan would really rather watch us play n texas/miami oh etc twice at home vs 1 game vs a real team?
I'm not gonna sit and debate it, because it goes nowhere. All I'll say is show me numbers where we can't make as much money with 6 home games vs 7.
Seriously? Are you really that stupid? You cannot be a hawk fan. If you are, that's really embarrassing...
To be clear, I know the game is not going away. And Barta simply sought a 2 year hiatus to play ND. And for those who think ISU could replace Iowa with another P5 team in a home and home you are dreaming. ISU has not had a home and home with any P5 team not named Iowa for over 20 years. Everyone outside of Story County knows what we already know. Playing ISU is a lose lose situation which is why besides Iowa bailing them out they are stuck with home and homes with the Akron Zips.
SO.....what makes me a stupid fake hawk fan? The fact I'd love to see us play 11 power games or that I think 1 Iowa/Lsu(etc) ticket would sell for as much as 2 iowa/n texas(etc) games?
The media says how much revenue a game brings into the city and surrounding area on a given Saturday. I got a news flash for you, that's not unique to Iowa when it comes to college football Saturdays. Never heard the university use that as a reason they don't schedule differently.
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I'm sure they can find another p5 game. I can see a primetime matchup vs rutgers or oregon state
I don't really care though. By November, I was so sick of hearing about matt campbell on the news everyday. I have no problem seeing him continue to lose to kirk....
The question is how much does the extra game help vs 1 less game vs a big opponent?
I said it before, I'd be WAY MORE likely to travel to IC for a big OOC game....just to TAILGATE. I wouldn't even make the trip for an iowa/n texas game if I have a free ticket.
Not to mention it would be a night game. Less people traveling back home the same day. Better book a place to stay a year in advance
The question is how much does the extra game help vs 1 less game vs a big opponent?
I said it before, I'd be WAY MORE likely to travel to IC for a big OOC game....just to TAILGATE. I wouldn't even make the trip for an iowa/n texas game if I have a free ticket.
Not to mention it would be a night game. Less people traveling back home the same day. Better book a place to stay a year in advance
My comment was to Iowa12 part in his post saying the university takes into account the financial hit to the city. It's a BS comment and the UI has never said that they schedule to help the city.
As far as losing a home date for a super match up I just don't think the math is there. Even with elevated ticket prices for the great game. Remember we had two great matchups that were night games this year, and only got 67k at both of them because of the high ticket price.
True, but how many times have those 2 come to IC? I think it'd be different bringing in a team we've never played there.
It is not the ISU sellout. Jesus. It is the political fallout if Barta pulled the plug and Pollard sued. My God. ND home and home in Chicago for 2 years. Night games national TV. Pollard is a total putz but not dumb. He will never let Iowa out ever.
They define themselves by Iowa. And Barta knows a lawsuit which is splashed every day in the Register is not something he can do. My gosh people, ISU is hanging to this game 24/7. Look at their boards. Almost all posts are about Iowa. They won’t get a P5 team and what would they bitch about all year but Iowa if we didn’t play them? There are more posts about Iowa football recruiting then all Clone posts combined. What don’t people get? Iowa makes ISU period. The saddest little brother and we let them hang on.
They define themselves by Iowa. And Barta knows a lawsuit which is splashed every day in the Register is not something he can do. My gosh people, ISU is hanging to this game 24/7. Look at their boards. Almost all posts are about Iowa. They won’t get a P5 team and what would they bitch about all year but Iowa if we didn’t play them? There are more posts about Iowa football recruiting then all Clone posts combined. What don’t people get? Iowa makes ISU period. The saddest little brother and we let them hang on.
A program flush with money would have to spend a ton of it in court and then the damage would be done. There would be a small part of the fanbase that would be upset but I think most would be excited. Look at it like this, if Barta went away tmrw and the new AD came in and said "we think it is in the best interest of Iowa football to end the series and look to play games on more of a national stage" the fanbase would erupt. Now you have an AD "committed to winning", now you have fans selling out NW or MN in OCT.
If you really want to add some fuel to that make the new AD's last name "Stoops".
If you really want to add some fuel to that make the new AD's last name "Stoops".
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The biggest problem with Iowa playing national powers as a non conference game is that no other national power is going to want to come to Kinnick, and we don't have a Lambeau Field in our state. Does anyone think Alabama would be willing to do a home and away series with Iowa? Or Clemson, Florida State or any other national power for that matter. So, Iowa would be forced to have to play all the tough non conference games away from home. Now lets say, Iowa goes to Alabama and gets stomped. How many of the fans here clamouring that we need these types of games in our non conference schedule are not going to be calling for the coaching staff\s head? I am not saying I wouldn't love to see a good power team match up on occasion, but not if it means Iowa has to go into the Lions Den every time to do it. Now, if Saban wants to bring his boys up to Kinnick and play a night game, I am in, but the reality is that Saban and every other power team coach in the land would say no. I doubt that they would even venture up to a game with Iowa at Kansas City, St Louis or even Chicago.
When arguing about playing better teams instead of a MAC team or UNI. You’d be hard pressed to find teams that don’t have 2 easy teams. USC, Texas, and OSU about only 2 next year who play 2 power 5 in non conference. All the acc and sec schools play 2 non power 5 and majority play 3. Bama plays ark st, Louisiana and the citadel and auburn has Alabama st, southern miss and liberty. Point is it’s not just Iowa almost every school has 2 schools like NIU and UNI on schedule for next year.
Because the neutral site game brings in revenue as the de facto 7th home game. Why teams early in season will play in Dallas at jerryworld cause in contracts they get so much money.
I’m not a Barta fan but on this very subject he has said he’d bee open to it. After week 1 of 2016 season with so many great games. Said he’d be open to a neutral site game maybe once every so often to replace a 7th home game. If it was Midwest venue not super far away for fans against a quality oppenant that still has an opening for that date.
So you’d also have to have a team where location also plays in for their fans too so ND being most obvious but a school like Mizzou or Kstate would also make sense for Midwest game.
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JFC. What don't people get? With ND in Chicago and no ISU, one year is a home game and one year away. I realize we lose for one game the Iowa City revenue. I get it. But ND home and home 2 national TV night games versus an ISU team that can only get Akron? My God people what don't you get? So stupid. Pollard said lawsuit. Barta isn't dumb cannot afford the political fall out. So Wisconsin gets ND. Sick. F'in sick.
Fayetteville is 3.5 hours to K city, I.C. is 4.5 ish. That seems doable and should have happened with Bert.
When that went down I never remember him talking about the Iowa City economy. It was more about intruding on Iowa high school football. Which I really don't mind. You are asking many people to choose between their kid and Iowa Hawkeye football. Outside of Labor day weekend and Black Friday having Friday games is logistical nightmare. Even having a game on the Friday of Labor Day will intrude on Iowa high school football.
Home-and-home isn't necessary imo ...outside of a Soldier Field match-up with ND or Indy match-up with Tenn, a game in StL between Oklahoma, Missouri or Arkansas would be cool.
It takes two to tango. And with any neutral, the networks have to like it to pony up the money to make both teams happy.
Chances are, it takes a lot more cash to make bigger dogs than Iowa happy. Wisconsin neutrals...those games they can sell to networks. If Iowa had Wisconsin's level of recent success, a neutral with Iowa is more sellable.
The best way for Iowa to prop up it's non-con would be a 5 year stretch of 9-3 or better while getting to the B10 CCG as often as Wisconsin.
Then, you can sell networks an Oklahoma/Missouri-Iowa at Arrowhead, an Iowa-Arkansas in St. Louis, etc.
It seems like Minnesota and ISU should play each other a lot more frequently in football. You've got the border and proximity, they aren't too distant from each other. From different P5 conferences in the same neighborhood, which could add a little spice to a rivalry. In most years neither is a top 25 program.
Seems like a no-brainer for both schools.
And when they do get together in Minneapolis or Ames, all fans can fraternally join in the cheer "Who hates Iowa? We hate Iowa!"
We are stuck with Iowa State, there is nothing to get. And currently, Iowa State is ranked or will be closed to being ranked when the season starts. Hell, they will be one of our toughest games this season. They cannot be counted on to be a tough matchup each year, but neither can the Cornhuskers. The chips fall in various spots from year to year. Besides, I would imagine the majority of fans in the state would be unhappy to see the series go away, especially when ISU is decent. My suggestion is to become a Badger fan. LOL Besides, were speculating over ND and whose to say ND wants to add Iowa to there schedule? ND might not consider Iowa a good enough win to want to add them, and a loss to Iowa would do more damage to ND's playoff hopes then a loss to Wisconsin.
