Exactly! It’s not like FSU has a home and home with Boise State. No way Texas would schedule a home and home with someone like Maryland. LSU didn’t have a home and home with Syracuse, or Duh U with a home and home with Toledo and App State. Virginia Tech with East Carolina. That’s just off the top of my head. Lots of bigger name schools do home and homes with “lesser” opponents. I doubt big name schools are ducking Iowa because they don’t want to go to Kinnick.
Exactly! It’s not like FSU has a home and home with Boise State. No way Texas would schedule a home and home with someone like Maryland. LSU didn’t have a home and home with Syracuse, or Duh U with a home and home with Toledo and App State. Virginia Tech with East Carolina. That’s just off the top of my head. Lots of bigger name schools do home and homes with “lesser” opponents. I doubt big name schools are ducking Iowa because they don’t want to go to Kinnick.
As has been discussed ad nauseam with the home and home Iowa is handcuffed by isu game. All these teams you listed either play 4 non conference or unlike Iowa not already locked into a home and home with another power 5 who is a rival outside of the conference with 3 non conference games. No home and home unless Iowa either A gets rid of isu or B AD has a serious change of heart and settles for 6 true home and away games. That’s why the neutral site game is the one viable option in future to get another power 5 team with isu on and a lot tougher to find that then a home and home.
Scott - I never said Iowa was going to permanently dump ISU. It was a 2 year proposal that ND and Barta discussed. I know it for a fact. I know from my role through the foundation as well as from a trustee from ND. I didn't state it before but for PsychoTwins and the other loser Clone fans who read this, I know one of the main proponents that tried to make it happen. He is a very wealthy and extremely influential businessman in Des Moines who is both an Iowa booster and a ND booster.
This is what iowa has brainwashed its fans with. The media keeps rinsing and repeating
That's a completely different narrative than people not wanting to go to Kinnick to play, which is what my point was.
“In my opinion, the strength of schedule hasn’t really had that much impact on who’s being selected for the College Football Playoff. We’re in the process of addressing that, hopefully to my and others’ satisfaction.” -Gary Barta
Check out @Landof10Iowa’s Tweet:
Man I wish I could be as lost to the world as this guy is. Anyone remember why Oklahoma didnt get in? Or why Iowa had to beat MSU to have any chance of making the playoffs even though everybody would have had 1 loss at that point?
Check out @Landof10Iowa’s Tweet:
Man I wish I could be as lost to the world as this guy is. Anyone remember why Oklahoma didnt get in? Or why Iowa had to beat MSU to have any chance of making the playoffs even though everybody would have had 1 loss at that point?
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OK..."brainwashing" implies that there are aspects that are not true. Let's break it down to see what's not true about @iahawkeyes17 post:
Do the teams listed either play 4 non-cons or have no lock in with an instate rival from another conference? Yep...OK, true so far.
No home and home unless Iowa either
a) gets rid of ISU or
b) AD decides a season with 6 home games is OK
Hmmm....can we keep ISU home/home and still do a home/home with another team in the non-conference schedule without giving up a home game? Nope, we can't. Still true so far.
That's why a neutral site game is a potential solution.
Well, it does imply only 6 home games, but Iowa could get revenue from the neutral site game. Yep, it's a potential solution. Is it tougher to find than a home/home? That I don't know. Is this the brainwash part? If you can show that it's easier to get P5 teams to agree to neutral site games than a home/home...by all means share the link. Otherwise, you're just spouting off crap.
Pony up or shut up.
That was being discussed when Bret was at Arkansas. No idea why it didn’t happen, but there were talks
Actual proof that a deal was able to happen at a neutral compared to a home and home. Not my dog, not my fight but it is 100% accurate a neutral is easier than a home and home.
I must say being on the same side of the fence as 12 leaves me open for much ridicule but I believe this constitutes "ponying up".
http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-fo...-saban-barry-alvarez-schedule-game-notre-dame
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I don't buy that one bit. Purdue can't even fill half their stadium, but they were able to do a "neutral" game with louisville.
They are also playing TWO power 5 OOC a season for 3 years in a row.
If Purdue can manage to get 11 power 5 games a year, so can we!
Was going to respond but you summed it up pretty well to our local pessimist here.
Kujawa, I have your solution to the ISU problem! Buy your way out of the series, you can afford it because the Big 10 distributes Iowa tons of money, right? Take on the lawsuit, this wouldn’t be nearly the most embarrassing thing Barta has been sued for in the past couple years. This way Iowa can test the waters with a series against a super reputable program, ISU can walk away with some cash and try to schedule their own OOC games. Iowa won’t have to prop ISU up anymore and they’ll be forced to play only little known teams like: Okie, Okie State, TCU, Kansas State, Texas, West Virginia, etc.
That's what we want. Seriously that is what the hardcore fanbase wants. It's only the casual fan that wants the ISU game at this point. One could argue doing this might be the thing Barta needs to do to get the fans back. Might want to be careful what you wish for.
Those Purdue games are or were scheduled before they had a heartbeat with their program.
Ever wonder how Iowa was able to schedule the murderer's row of a non-con year after year in the 70's? Because they were arguably the worst program in the B10 then. Nobody felt threatened coming to Iowa City.
Just like Purdue was recently.
This is such a tired subject. I joined this board in 2002, and every off season, it is the same blather. Everybody assumes it's so goddam easy to schedule a football game with absolutely no friggin' clue whatsoever how hard it is to do.
Iowa is not Purdue. It is not Wisconsin. It is not Northwestern. We are Iowa. Time to get over that fact.
There was some younger in cheek in my post, but I’m sometimes conflicted about how good the series is for ISU as well. With the Big 12 being a round robin, I know ISU is going to play the best teams in their conference, therefore I don’t really care if they have mid-majors or low P5 teams to play in the OOC. Maybe a home and home with Akron is the best they can get but I see teams like Rutgers, Purdue, MN and others getting P5 OOC games it makes me feel hopeful. I’m not worried about SOS because it’s a long way down the road before that would ever be a significant concern if ever. In 4 years of the playoff there’s 4-6 teams in contention for those spots and maybe an outlier or two mixed in. If Iowa leaving the series is best for them, I truly think they should, I’m assuming Pollard would do what’s best for ISU without regard for Iowa.
Great point plus lot of these non conference games are scheduled years out. Minus a few teams like Ohio st, OU, Alabama etc who knows how good that team will be. Nebraska scheduled Oregon when chip kelly had them rolling and years they played they were a 4 and 8 win team. Teams who had Texas playing now scheduled when Mack brown had them winning 10 games a year at the end of his tenure. Funny thing is mizzou backs out of Iowa series and just so happened one of those was the 07’ season when they win 10+ and finish in top 10.
This is a subject that's been discussed over and over again. The bottom line is that, like it or not, as long as Iowa St stays on the schedule, Iowa will not be having another P-5 non-conf opponent. Despite Iowa St having a quality team this year, Iowa's non-conference slate is and will continue to be a big snoozer to anyone looking in from the outside. Add to that the new B1G alignment, and sometimes the conference schedule doesn't look all that great, either.
If Iowa is ever going to have any kind of intriguing non-conference match-up, something is going to have to change - 1) Iowa St series put on hiatus, 2) Iowa gives up 7th home game for one season here or there, 3) B1G goes back to 8-game schedule, or 4) NCAA starts allowing an occasional 13th game.
I, personally, was hoping that Iowa could parlay it's successful 2015 season into landing one of those big opening weekend neutral-site match-ups, but that opportunity has passed.
It's difficult enough for Iowa to remain relevant. The watered down non-conference AND conference schedule is certainly not helping. Add to that the worsening game-day experience (e.g. tailgating issues), aging fan-base, apparent increasing disinterest from the students, and skyrocketing ticket prices, and I have genuine concern about what the future may bring. We've already gotten to the point that the Iowa St game is the only sell-out. Ouch. I just have this feeling that a big-time non-conference series may be critical to restoring interest in the program.
If Iowa is ever going to have any kind of intriguing non-conference match-up, something is going to have to change - 1) Iowa St series put on hiatus, 2) Iowa gives up 7th home game for one season here or there, 3) B1G goes back to 8-game schedule, or 4) NCAA starts allowing an occasional 13th game.
I, personally, was hoping that Iowa could parlay it's successful 2015 season into landing one of those big opening weekend neutral-site match-ups, but that opportunity has passed.
It's difficult enough for Iowa to remain relevant. The watered down non-conference AND conference schedule is certainly not helping. Add to that the worsening game-day experience (e.g. tailgating issues), aging fan-base, apparent increasing disinterest from the students, and skyrocketing ticket prices, and I have genuine concern about what the future may bring. We've already gotten to the point that the Iowa St game is the only sell-out. Ouch. I just have this feeling that a big-time non-conference series may be critical to restoring interest in the program.
Then there really is no reason to extend the ISU game beyond the current agreement. If Barta extends it he should be fired.
I disagree. Barta is too stupid to realize that if Pollard sued there would be little to no fallout as every Iowa fan would have his back. This is a series against Notre Dame we are talking about. ISU and Pollard would come off as looking petty and vindictive and, yes, it would be embarrassing...for ISU.
How would you know who would say yes or no to a request by Barta?
The answer is you don't, and neither does Barta unless he asks. Kirk has said in public he likes a weak OOC. He uses the conference schedule as his excuse and weak minds just parrot it. If Maryland can schedule Texas, Iowa can replace one of our patsies for a real program.
And if Iowa is gonna lose in the OOC better to do it to a real program rather than NDSU. People say there is no upside to playing Iowa State (and it's even more true for UNI & N. Ill), I agree, so why does Iowa put itself in a no win situation? It doesn't make sense, it just makes Iowa look like a scared program.
But I thought ISU couldn't get a decent matchup outside of Iowa because they suck
BTW I was quoting the part that said the "media" decides on the games. Certainly they wouldn't want a game with purdue, a team that can't even fill half their seats.
But yes, I agree this discussion gets old
Better question is how can purdon't!
Everyone keeps whining about the cyhawk game, but very few seem to care about having to watch us play 2 shit show teams almost every year. Of course that is sometimes 3, depending on how bad isu is that year
Oh and I don't care how many garbage teams bama or anyone else plays each year.
