Indiana looking at McCollum

[ISUBryce]

I should have made my case clearer. The frame is the issue. He took the job at Drake which involves the status of recruits, transfers and players on roster, coach's families, etc. and costly setback for the program. Turnover is ugly. Rapid, repetitious turnover(s) are uglier.

One year and done. Not good.

That's why I believe a coach should honor a contract, if for a period of time to allow a program to adjust and regroup and build on the success you'd expect from a rising coaching star.

In CBB, everything is a 1 year proposition.

There is no building on success with players. The standard is the NCAA tourney, you need to make it, and you need to cut guys that won’t get you there and bring in guys from mid/low majors to fill in gaps in your roster.

McCollum delivered on that in spades this year. He’d be recruiting an entirely new team next year anyway since the team this year was all guys yanked from other programs.

 

[HawksRule73]

In CBB, everything is a 1 year proposition.

There is no building on success with players. The standard is the NCAA tourney, you need to make it, and you need to cut guys that won’t get you there and bring in guys from mid/low majors to fill in gaps in your roster.

McCollum delivered on that in spades this year. He’d be recruiting an entirely new team next year anyway since the team this year was all guys yanked from other programs.

I had a boss a long time ago tell me something that always stuck with me. He said, "It's my job to try and find someone who can do your job better than you and it's your job to make sure I never do."

I look at the current landscape of college sports the same way now. It's the coaches job to always be on the lookout for upgrades and it's the players job to make sure they never find that person.

 

[littlez]

In CBB, everything is a 1 year proposition.

There is no building on success with players. The standard is the NCAA tourney, you need to make it, and you need to cut guys that won’t get you there and bring in guys from mid/low majors to fill in gaps in your roster.

McCollum delivered on that in spades this year. He’d be recruiting an entirely new team next year anyway since the team this year was all guys yanked from other programs.

If he stays ( not out of the question) he brings back Stirtz, Manyewu, Banks and Howard. That's a great core of players.

 

[ft254]

In CBB, everything is a 1 year proposition.

There is no building on success with players. The standard is the NCAA tourney, you need to make it, and you need to cut guys that won’t get you there and bring in guys from mid/low majors to fill in gaps in your roster.

McCollum delivered on that in spades this year. He’d be recruiting an entirely new team next year anyway since the team this year was all guys yanked from other programs.

Coaching careers are made and lost on meteoric rushes and crashes. Coaches that build and sustain programs are the ones that major programs seek. They want coaches they feel can recruit and engender an atmosphere players will be comfortable. McCollum has an edge in this regard in he brought a core of players to Drake.

Nothing happens in college athletics without getting players on campus. Recruiting is lifeblood. D1 is not like anything else. It's cutthroat. no holds barred. If he has no experience or history, head coach at high profile program may not be the place to start.

Mid-level coaches move up to D1 successfully but how common do coaches succeed at Power 5 programs? I'm asking rhetorically.

 

[littlez]

Coaching careers are made and lost on meteoric rushes and crashes. Coaches that build and sustain programs are the ones that major programs seek. They want coaches they feel can recruit and engender an atmosphere players will be comfortable. McCollum has an edge in this regard in he brought a core of players to Drake.

Nothing happens in college athletics without getting players on campus. Recruiting is lifeblood. D1 is not like anything else. It's cutthroat. no holds barred. If he has no experience or history, head coach at high profile program may not be the place to start.

Mid-level coaches move up to D1 successfully but how common do coaches succeed at Power 5 programs? I'm asking rhetorically.

Most Power 5 coaches started somewhere, correct? Didn’t Matt Painter come from Southern Illinois? Michigan coach just came from Florida Atlantic. Maryland coach came from Seton Hall I believe. Alabama coach came from Buffalo. Bruce Pearl started at Milwaukee. Very rare you’re 1st job is at a Power 5 school.

 

[tippet1]

Most Power 5 coaches started somewhere, correct? Didn’t Matt Painter come from Southern Illinois? Michigan coach just came from Florida Atlantic. Maryland coach came from Seton Hall I believe. Alabama coach came from Buffalo. Bruce Pearl started at Milwaukee. Very rare you’re 1st job is at a Power 5 school.

Pearl 1st Head Coaching job was Southern Indiana where he won a national title.

 

[SDHawkDoc]

This is now an entirely different enterprise than even 5 years ago.
A slow build of a program will be a rarity, unless or until there is a limitation on the current unlimited and unfettered free agency of players.

Playing the game with the parameters as they currently stand, a coach builds a team for one season. If that doesn't work out then he rebuilds for the next season with anywhere from all to none of the same players, with the likelihood more in favor of none than all. And it's far more likely than in the past that a team can go from terrible to great in one year. Of course they can go the other way as well.
Players will move chasing dollars. Coaches will move chasing dollars as also. Or they will be moved in short order if they don't get it done in the NCAA tourney.

 

[littlez]

This is now an entirely different enterprise than even 5 years ago.
A slow build of a program will be a rarity, unless or until there is a limitation on the current unlimited and unfettered free agency of players.

Playing the game with the parameters as they currently stand, a coach builds a team for one season. If that doesn't work out then he rebuilds for the next season with anywhere from all to none of the same players, with the likelihood more in favor of none than all. And it's far more likely than in the past that a team can go from terrible to great in one year. Of course they can go the other way as well.
Players will move chasing dollars. Coaches will move chasing dollars as also. Or they will be moved in short order if they don't get it done in the NCAA tourney.

Correct. Look at the case of Missouri the last 3 years. New coach comes in (Cleveland St by the way) brings some of his own guys and makes the tournament 1st year. All new team 2nd year loses Tonje (now a stud at Wisconsin obviously) and Caleb Grill for the season and goes 0-18. Brings in more new players and gets a 6 seed this year.

 

[Rambler Hawk]

Reported that Indiana looking at McCollum to replace Woodson.
I can see the future now and it's not encouraging.

And now DD seems to be a front runner….😬
https://www.thedailyhoosier.com/iu-basketball-coaching-candidate-profile-darian-devries/

 

[Hans81]

Drake is already better than us (not that it takes much) with guys he brought from D2.

Not sure…near season-end when Iowa was playing well…they likely beat Drake.

 

[Hans81]

I’m like Hayden Fry re:Minnesota…they could/should be juggernauts in B10 athletics with all their corporate connections in the TC…why they can’t get their shit together mystifies me..McCollom could do a real bang-up job there would think…

The state of MN has a 6 billion $ budget deficit and is a run by a lefty liberal governor…no thanks. It’s also cold as f*ck up there. 😳

 

[Hans81]

I have an old colleague who’s an IU grad. He texted me this morning to say they were going to get McCullum and taunted me a bit.
Truth is he’ll get more pressure at Indiana, but he’ll also get more resources.

Guess you’re “friend” was wrong. 🥴

 

[BonzoFury]

Guess you’re “friend” was wrong. 🥴

Funny, you should revisit this post. He texted me this morning and said they’ll take their pick. We can have the leftovers. I offered to wager with him on next seasons football game. He declined

 

[Rambler Hawk]

Funny, you should revisit this post. He texted me this morning and said they’ll take their pick. We can have the leftovers. I offered to wager with him on next seasons football game. He declined

lol!

 

[BonzoFury]

So if Iowa was his dream job, will that make Indiana his nightmare?

 

[hawkirugged17]

There’s probably only 2 jobs DD would have even considered leaving WVU after 1 season for, Creighton or Iowa.

OK ... 3 jobs. That's 3 jobs DD would leave WVU after one year.