Indiana looking at McCollum
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Seems like a good fit. UVA is used to slow-ball.
And winning ...under Bennett.
Hope Iowa considers Brownell,tho.
Greg McDermott is 60. He tried ISU for 4 years and had an under .500 record. He left before he was fired. He's not coming to Iowa.
Whatever happens it's already a done deal. Either Fran is staying or Iowa has a new coach already lined up and the contract has been written and waiting for signatures. The discussions have happened between Beth and the agents of all coaches discussed here. It's just a matter if Fran wants to stay or retire.
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I hate to be that guy, but I'm going to be. It would not bother me in the slightest if we get absolutely smoked tomorrow. Now is not the time for moral victories, it's time for a burial and to move on. Let there be even more desire for a new chapter.
Robbie Hummel keeps plugging for Greg McDermott to IU, not Iowa. While Goodman seems to think it will be TJO. I don’t think it will be either one of them.
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Is the juice worth the squeeze for either coach to move to Bloomington? I don’t think so. Neither guy seems like they are laser focused on the $$$. They both get paid well and have relatively high job security. IU has Nebraska football like expectations.
Words are just words but TJO has said repeatedly ISU is his dream job. Met his wife there. Crazy high job security and is getting solid results.
Things can change of course but that’s a move that would surprise me.
Robbie Hummel is a Purdue guy, take anything he has to say with a grain of salt.
He would very likely do better with the exact same players as Fran.
That said, caliber of player is subjective to a degree. I doubt he's going to go after the same types of players Fran did.
There's a much wider pool of players to draw from than what Fran was interested in.
For example, most of Otzelberger's best players have been under the radar mid major transfers. Fran would never offer most of those players, even if he knew they were good he just wouldn't be interested in guys that play iso ball and aren’t great shooters.
Fran mostly limited himself to a fairly specific type of player he wanted. A better coach can adapt to different styles of players depending on what's available to him.
Jesus Christ recruited Judas and coached him for three years. Judas didn’t like the direction of the coach and decided to portal out to a team that offered him more money. His new gig didn’t go well.
I personally don't believe that whatever happens vs Nebraska makes any difference for the future. That decision has all ready been made if Fran goes or stays.
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Maybe helps that we don’t make BTT, can move forward more quickly
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Realize this might be out of left field..NC State fired Kevin Keatts after making the final four. Wonder where he will land.
TJ is not leaving ISU at all, and assuredly not for IU. At least for the next 5-7 years. Not while Pollard is there. He took the job on a very modest salary and it’s since then been brought up, but it’s a dream job for him for sure. Indiana isn’t really an upgrade, apart from dollars.
yeah i'm sold. based on the responses he definitely seems like the guy iowa should get.
hope beth has already made the arrangements. just pay fran, no need to waste even a minute to save a couple bucks.
Let's keep it real here.
Prestige-wise, Indiana is a heck of an upgrade from ISU (and Iowa, for that matter).
It’s as much as an upgrade prestige wise as Nebraska football is to Iowa. And by that I mean, present day, it’s really not.
The win today may have saved Fran’s job. For sure if he wins 1-2 in the BTT and gets a win or two (or three) in whatever post season tournament the Hawks play in.
I think Iowa will have a bit of a run coming up, which will convince Beth to “stand pat” with Fran. Iowa is very risk-averse when it comes to coaching changes. I guess it comes down to whether attendance and fan apathy are important or not. No matter how the Hawks finish, I don’t see an increase in attendance or NIL next year.
Someone is going to get McCollum. If Iowa wants him, now is the chance. He won’t be around for long.
Not as much as it was 10-15 years ago. Time moves on. Just like Nebraska football doesn't draw the water it used to, Indiana is not basketball Nivana.
Its amazing what one or two NCAA runs will do for your perception as a coach.
Take out last years elite eight run, and Brownell's career at Clemson is awfully comparable to Frans:
- Only 4 NCAA tournaments in 14 seasons
- Only advanced past Round of 64 twice in 24 years of coaching.
- Went 6 straight seasons without an NCAA birth at Clemson
- Missed out on postseason tournaments entirely (NCAA+NIT) 6/14 years
- Barely above .500 in conference play (He was only .503 before this year)
- Never finished higher than 3rd in conference before this year.
- Never won a conference tournament
Therefore, as an Iowa fan, I would be more than happy with IU hiring Brownell.
Good job for sure, but it's been over 30 years since they were elite under Knight.
Mike Davis took them to the title game as a 5 seed iirc.. 2002 I think.
Crean took them to 3 Sweet 16s.
Not a lot beyond that. I hesitate to call them a blue blood anymore.
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Before leading Drake to a 30-3 record, the MVC regular-season and tournament titles in his first year, Ben McCollum, 43, guided Northwest Missouri State to four Division II national titles since 2017 and won 11 straight MIAA regular-season titles.
Northwest won D-II titles in 2017, 2019, 2021 and 2022. He was 394-91 overall but from 2017-24, Northwest was 253-21.
Northwest won D-II titles in 2017, 2019, 2021 and 2022. He was 394-91 overall but from 2017-24, Northwest was 253-21.
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