Izzos recruiting wasn't all that great for quite a while before that guy that owns the Suns decided to own the Spartans too.
He even referenced that they wanted him fired a few years ago in his defense of Fran last week.
Indiana looking at McCollum
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He even referenced that they wanted him fired a few years ago in his defense of Fran last week.
That's was my thought too.
The ceiling might be a little higher at Indiana but the expectations are out of line with reality there too.
I agree with your sentiment. I don't need them to have any connection to Iowa but considering McCollum is arguably the hottest name in CBB right now, it doesn't hurt that he grew up in the state and his wife went to UI. Rumors of Indiana zeroing in on him and going to offer him a truckload makes me happy he does have an Iowa connection. Beth better have her ducks in a row.
I have some NWMS connections having gone there and following McCollum's career for years now. He most certainty had several offers to leave years before he took the Drake job. He took the Drake job because of the AD and he knew it was a place he could win at and would support mens BB.
I'm commenting on the post suggesting he would stay at Drake because he does not move around and would wait.
He will have a handful of very good P4 jobs to choose from. His time is now while he and Drake are hot.
I’m like Hayden Fry re:Minnesota…they could/should be juggernauts in B10 athletics with all their corporate connections in the TC…why they can’t get their shit together mystifies me..McCollom could do a real bang-up job there would think…
It seems like they could be better. My only explanation is that Minneapolis is a pro town, not a college town. And corporate money goes there, not to the UM.
What does the strength of the Missouri Valley have to do with how McCollum coaches and gets his guys ready to play? He has won over and over up to this point against his peers at the same level.
You would think with their 19 fortune 500 companies in mn some would give NIL.
They also have a billionaire alum in Denny Sanford. But, I heard years ago he wasn't pleased with something inside the athletic department or university.
Allegedly they do have some donors lining up this offseason to spend on players.
Its a shame the goofs stink so much. When the goofs were good the Barn was elite of college bball atmosphere.
Good coaches can coach where ever they are coaching. Regardless of level.
Success in the Missouri Valley doesn’t mean he will have success in the Big Ten. It is a very big jump in competition and recruiting. Greg McDermott was great in the Valley. Not so much at Iowa State.
He was good at UNI, not great. His conference finishes were 7th 7th 2nd 3rd and 5th. He was average, at best, at Iowa State.
But he’s been very good at Creighton. So it’s hard to characterize his success at a major conference without recognizing what he’s done at Creighton.
But one coach’s success is no certainty of another’s success or failure. If McCollum is hired he’ll rise or fall of his own accord. But coaching in MVC is not a predictor of how one would do in a tougher conference, either way.
All very true. I would say there are no coaching guarantees with translating to success at Iowa.
Iowa has not hired a coach with a very high level of success in his resume. Other than Lickliter, the coaches at Iowa have remained consistent with their past results. If either DeVries or McCollum are hired, their career winning percentage would be the best of any coach in the modern age. But of course, having a good winning percentage didn't translate for Lickliter, but it sure seems to have been a good indicator for all the other coaches since the early 80's.
Coach win %......Prior jobs ...............At Iowa
Raveling..............Before.....548........Iowa - .587
Tom Davis..........Before.....646.........Iowa - .658
Alford...................Before.....619..........Iowa - .589
Lickliter...............Before......682.........Iowa - .396
McCaffrey..........Before......586.........Iowa - .589
DeVries -------- .713
McCollum ----- .819
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Least we forget that bogus Memorial Stadium sellout ‘streak’!!!🤪
Good stuff - thanks for pulling this info!
It’s too bad Lickliter turned out to be a Paper Tiger who benefited from the actual coaching genius on staff - Brad Stevens. Just Iowa’s luck…😢
So our only hope for him is if he realizes how crazy IU bball fans are. Like Nebraska football.
I have an old colleague who’s an IU grad. He texted me this morning to say they were going to get McCullum and taunted me a bit.
Truth is he’ll get more pressure at Indiana, but he’ll also get more resources.
You should tell him…’Not so fast my friend!’….and give him a winky emoji as if you have inside info…👍
the announced attendance (tickets sold & distributed) is always a sell out.
all of those tickets obviously don't get used.
My point was that Drake probably isn’t better than Iowa this season.
Jesus was a multi-sport star in college. He once hit a bases empty grand slam.
McCollum is an excellent coach. No doubt about it. I have a problem with any coach not willing to fulfil obligations made to their program or players, regardless of timeframe or opportunities.
I doubt it, probably though his agent to get a since if he's interested. It won't be long now before someone is named Iowa's new men's basketball coach. Beth has done her work, otherwise she wouldn't have fire Fran.....
How reliable is a coach not willing to fulfill his obligation at Drake?
Whiz-bang season and he's off to Notre Dame or Michigan?
I believe you owe an employer when you sign a contract. Just the way I was raised.
That's just not realistic today unfortunately.
Was Fran under contract when he left Siena to take the Iowa job? 99% of coaches hired from a mid major to a Power 5 are under contract. This makes no sense.
I should have made my case clearer. The frame is the issue. He took the job at Drake which involves the status of recruits, transfers and players on roster, coach's families, etc. and costly setback for the program. Turnover is ugly. Rapid, repetitious turnover(s) are uglier.
One year and done. Not good.
That's why I believe a coach should honor a contract, if for a period of time to allow a program to adjust and regroup and build on the success you'd expect from a rising coaching star.
In a perfect world yes. But no matter what when a coach leaves now whether it’s after 1 year or 7 years at Drake that school is F’d. Especially if it’s a mid major. DeVries did an incredible job at Drake, 3 tournaments in 6-7 years. That’s all you can ask. Pre transfer era, if a coach left the majority of the team stayed. When DeVries left Drake he took their best player, Tucker, and the rest of the team graduated or transferred. When McCollum came in he had 1 player. He was lucky enough (and a good enough coach) to bring in his 4 D2 guys that knew his culture and how he wanted to play. Iowa is probably going to be in the same boat. Good chance we lose the entire roster but 1-2 players, and if it’s DeVries they’re going to be in the same situation as Tucker will come to Iowa along with hopefully 2-3 other W Virginia guys. That’s how it is.
There’s probably only 2 jobs DD would have even considered leaving WVU after 1 season for, Creighton or Iowa.
I just completely disagree. Iowa didn’t screw Fran by firing him before his contract is over, and McCollum will not be screwing anybody over if he leaves. The contracts are built the way they are for a reason.
