Tough to overlook Spencer’s 3 titles, 1 additional Hodge, and absolute dominance in terms of bonus %.
My heart agrees with you. If the list was top NCAA tournament wrestlers then Spence is #1. But when the whole season is taken into account, I think Gable edges him a bit. Spences record is 64-5. Gable is 68-2. Getting stuck by Picc in the first period doesn’t help his case nor does a loss to Ronnie Bresser. Gable lost twice to multiple NCAA Cassar by one point. There is certainly not a close third however. It’s Gable, Spence then everyone else IMHO.
I don't believe this is for the GOAT - but where they are at as a college wrestler right now.
Indeed he was. Big Ten and NCAA Champion that season, beating Steveson at both events.
Agreed. Gable can have that Olympic title but has that loss in ncaas and doesn’t have the ncaas titles Spencer has!!!
Not true. He was a backup and injury granted him extra years. He wouldn’t have started in his injuries years!!!
I don't care about Intermat's ranking, but you do realize he won NCAA'S last year after he tore his ACL right? And was 1 point away from bonus in every match when Courtney ran from him, and shut him out to boot. He did that 8 days after he had no ACL's, and he'll have 8 months to recover before he starts again. I don't know what we'll get from Spencer Lee in 2022, but I'm betting it will be pretty darn good. Nobody is going to lay down for him, IF he wins a 4th Title, he'll have earned it the hard way, that's for damn sure.
Where would a guy with a 66-1 record fit in, then? Not close to 64-5 or 68-2?
Your post might be meaningful if you listed a name for the 66-1 record.
Of course Yianni is great, but he wins a lot of close matches. In his two NCAA titles he’s gotten bonus points in just two matches out of 10. Spence and Gable are just a few notches above him at this point. He doesn’t wrestle the strength of schedule that Spencer and Gable get in the B10, so that hurts him as well. He’d b my number 3 though.
That’s messed up, I know Elam is going to be good, but WTF is putting someone as a college wrestler that never won a college match ahead of an AA. Morans, or I’m just a Moran for not seeing that Elam took 5th last season.
He wins close matches, but the emphasis should be on "wins," right? You compared the w/l records of Lee and Gable, so that must count for something.
Rocky Elam took 5th at 197 last year
Spencer stuck National Champion Tomasello, then manhandled future National Champion up a weight Suriano. Then the weight class cleared out. What else ya got.
Wow, not sure how I missed him the entire season. Ok I was wrong and the list goes on.
The difference here is that nobody (including me) is disputing Lee's bona fides, but Yianni is said to be a distant third behind Lee and Steveson. No respect.
Yeah, because there's a large gap between lee/steveson and Yianni.
You gave it to him. Good job. He's also out of sight out of mind because he didn't go last year, thru no fault of his own other than he chose to attend an Ivy League school. And yeah, he's very good, as most 2x National Champions are.
