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Iowa -12.5 against NW

What a surprise, another fool that doesn't know squat about football. We stomped Northwestern, and rushing for 310 yards tells the tale. We didn't take care of the football and left at least 14 points on the field. Our fault, but don't try to tell me that Northwestern is even remotely in the same league of team as Nebraska. They're not.


Yes. I'm the challenged one. You made perfectly clear that you were talking about this year...as mud. Using a phrase "remotely in the same league" usually refers to more than one game.
 
All you need to do is look at Riley's first recruiting class vs Ferentz's 16th or 17th, and there's your answer. If you sell to your strengths, kids listen.

Time for you to go back to the children's table. When you're done playing Go Fish and learn how to play pitch, then you can come back.

The skirts always have better recruiting classes. Too bad it doesn't translate anywhere else.

Now skirt fans celebrate NDSU and recruiting rankings. Makes sense to leave the on the field results to someone else. The once mighties can't do it.

Break out the VHS tapes.
 
This is rich knowing that very recent... Stanford and McCaffery absolutely owned Iowa in the Rose Bowl.

Are you implying that was the same domination? Hell, look who I'm asking, of course you'd know. I think Oklahoma, Ohio State, Missouri, Colorado, Texas Tech AND Kansas are still scoring. Oh and Wisconsin a couple times. Damn, too many to remember. I think blackshirts is Latin for Playstation scores.
 
Shouldn't you be living vicariously through NDSU? You know...losing to them and all.

Shouldn't you be living through Iowa then since we owned you the last time we played?

Or maybe in the next 20 years the once mighties can catch up to Iowa and the number of top ten finishes we have had since 2002.

Tell us how it really is skirt fan.
 
But...the argument has been for this entire thread "is Northwestern's team in the same league as Nebraska's this year?" And yet for some reason you guys think that throwing out scores from previous coaches in some way offers up a valid comparison. Like I said, use your head.


The thread initially had zero to do with UN. Period.

Northwestern (NU) IS in the same league as Nebraska (UN). The game last Saturday ended in a less than two score margin (not the imaginary 25 points that someone wants to pretend it to be). We all know from just last November that a much wider differential - say twenty-one points is not telling so Northwestern is definitely on par with Nebraska.

Or, are you willing to admit that Iowa left no doubt last year that UN was not even in the same league?
 
How anyone can look at Iowa's play to date and feel confident that they'll kick butt is beyond me. From what I've seen, our offense cannot move the ball with any sense of consistency. We just struggled to put up points against two consecutive teams that had averaged giving up 30+ per game.

They may clean things up, but I see zero reason to be confident.
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Yes. I'm the challenged one. You made perfectly clear that you were talking about this year...as mud. Using a phrase "remotely in the same league" usually refers to more than one game.

What a surprise, another fool that doesn't know squat about football. We stomped Northwestern, and rushing for 310 yards tells the tale. We didn't take care of the football and left at least 14 points on the field. Our fault, but don't try to tell me that Northwestern is even remotely in the same league of team as Nebraska. They're not.

Reading is fun!! This is not difficult. Of course I was talking about the team, and not the head-to-head since we joined the league.
 
The skirts always have better recruiting classes. Too bad it doesn't translate anywhere else.

Now skirt fans celebrate NDSU and recruiting rankings. Makes sense to leave the on the field results to someone else. The once mighties can't do it.

Break out the VHS tapes.

Do I really need to point out that the results on the field don't favor your narrative?
 
Reading is fun!! This is not difficult. Of course I was talking about the team, and not the head-to-head since we joined the league.
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Reading is fun!! This is not difficult. Of course I was talking about the team, and not the head-to-head since we joined the league.

Reading is fun. He was very clear. Tell us how 8 point differential between Iowa and the once mighties last fall is so vastly different than 11 point differential than the skirts had Saturday?
 
Do I really need to point out that the results on the field don't favor your narrative?

Are you talking about the last two trips to Lincoln? Or maybe your entire season last year? Wait, losing track, when does history matter again? Oh, that's right the years where there is a new coaching staff. Those don't count, right? Or do they?
 
Do I really need to point out that the results on the field don't favor your narrative?

Sure they do. Iowa has 5 top ten finishes since 2002 and the once mighties have ZERO.

Pretty clear to me.

Must ignore? Of course we must. Anything and everything that skirt fan doesn't like must be ignored.

More please.
 
Nope. All Iowa has to show for it is an 8-0 regular season and losing a championship game by three points on a last second score.

How about Nebraska.... they accomplished anything like that since joining the league?

Congrats on your 8-0 regular season....even with that, Nebraska has had a better Big Ten record than Iowa since joining the conference.
 
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Congrats on your 8-0 regular season....even with that, Nebraska has had a better Big Ten record than Iowa since joining the conference.


By virtue of what, a single game? Take your pick of any of the mighty UN victories over inferior Iowa and tell me with any amount of confidence that they could not have gone the other way just as easily. Better yet, show me where it is that Iowa gave up 55 points last season to anyone, much less Purdue. Same for Wisconsin virtually any game sans one win by the powerful and great Nebraska. Does 31-70 bring any memories back for you?

It is really meaningless to say, 'well, we have the better record (by one whole game!)' Put some context to it and you quickly begin to see that UN was more of a mirage that a reality coming into the Big Ten. Nebraska has not dominated the league and in turn has been embarrassed on numerous occasions by teams that were supposed to be too slow, too predictable and just not worthy of being on the same field as UN>
 
Congrats on your 8-0 regular season....even with that, Nebraska has had a better Big Ten record than Iowa since joining the conference.

Yet the once mighties haven't had a top ten ranking since 2002 while Iowa has had 5.

Ouch no wonder skirt fans want to ignore that.
 
By virtue of what, a single game? Take your pick of any of the mighty UN victories over inferior Iowa and tell me with any amount of confidence that they could not have gone the other way just as easily. Better yet, show me where it is that Iowa gave up 55 points last season to anyone, much less Purdue. Same for Wisconsin virtually any game sans one win by the powerful and great Nebraska. Does 31-70 bring any memories back for you?

It is really meaningless to say, 'well, we have the better record (by one whole game!)' Put some context to it and you quickly begin to see that UN was more of a mirage that a reality coming into the Big Ten. Nebraska has not dominated the league and in turn has been embarrassed on numerous occasions by teams that were supposed to be too slow, too predictable and just not worthy of being on the same field as UN>

Are you saying Iowa doesn't have any laughers the past five years? You can play the what if game all you want...fact is, you have lost to Nebraska three times since NU joined the conference. You don't get extra credit for keeping it close. Once joining the conference we were told by quite a few Iowa fans that Iowa was and always will be the "bullies" of the Big Ten. That has not been reality. Far from it
 
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Are you saying Iowa doesn't have any laughers the past five years? You can play the what if game all you want...fact is, you have lost to Nebraska three times since NU joined the conference. You don't get extra credit for keeping it close. Once joining the conference we were told by quite a few Iowa fans that Iowa was and always will be the "bullies" of the Big Ten. That has not been reality. Far from it


You, as in the collective 'you' of UN fans need to make up your minds. We have read/seen/heard multiple times on just this forum how "close" the game in Lincoln was last November 27th. Are you here to set the record straight that a score of 28-20 was not that close?

Those three wins by UN? Scores of 20-7, 13-7 and the overtime victory of 37-34 could have easily turned out in favor of Iowa. The point being that your original claim of having so great of some superiority in conference games won over the five year span that UN has been in the league is very weak.

The 'bullies' label has by and large been used to describe the play of Iowa's offensive line. Some attribute its inception to the "big uglies" tag that Hayden Fry used while coaching at Iowa. Nonetheless, it pales in comparison to what was the hue and cry of UN fans telling anyone who would listen how difficult it was to compete within the big8/big xii and that,if ever presented with the chance to play in the inferior Big Ten, Nebraska would dominate that league for season upon season. Best you now have to show is the the 2012 campaign where, as a supposedly ranked team, UN lost by 25 points to Ohio State and then proceeded to lost the CCG by that 31-70 score! Where is that dominance that we heard so much about?

So, which is farther from that reality, 13? Iowa going 8-0 and playing Michigan State literally to the last seconds or 7-1 (7-2) UN with embarrassing losses to Ohio State and Wisconsin?
 
Likewise you would think the "bullies" of the Big Ten would have more than two winning seasons in the Big Ten since Nebraska has joined.


Yet, Iowa is within one game total of the record put up by mighty UN during the same period of time. Think before you post.
 
Are you saying Iowa doesn't have any laughers the past five years? You can play the what if game all you want...fact is, you have lost to Nebraska three times since NU joined the conference. You don't get extra credit for keeping it close. Once joining the conference we were told by quite a few Iowa fans that Iowa was and always will be the "bullies" of the Big Ten. That has not been reality. Far from it

Where they've given up 60+ points multiple times? No, they haven't. If some of Iowa's losses have been laughers, you really need to come up with a more descriptive word for Nebraska's implosions. Dumpster fire?
 
You, as in the collective 'you' of UN fans need to make up your minds. We have read/seen/heard multiple times on just this forum how "close" the game in Lincoln was last November 27th. Are you here to set the record straight that a score of 28-20 was not that close?

Those three wins by UN? Scores of 20-7, 13-7 and the overtime victory of 37-34 could have easily turned out in favor of Iowa. The point being that your original claim of having so great of some superiority in conference games won over the five year span that UN has been in the league is very weak.

The 'bullies' label has by and large been used to describe the play of Iowa's offensive line. Some attribute its inception to the "big uglies" tag that Hayden Fry used while coaching at Iowa. Nonetheless, it pales in comparison to what was the hue and cry of UN fans telling anyone who would listen how difficult it was to compete within the big8/big xii and that,if ever presented with the chance to play in the inferior Big Ten, Nebraska would dominate that league for season upon season. Best you now have to show is the the 2012 campaign where, as a supposedly ranked team, UN lost by 25 points to Ohio State and then proceeded to lost the CCG by that 31-70 score! Where is that dominance that we heard so much about?

So, which is farther from that reality, 13? Iowa going 8-0 and playing Michigan State literally to the last seconds or 7-1 (7-2) UN with embarrassing losses to Ohio State and Wisconsin?

Both are reality? Both happened...BTW, that team you lost to in the Big 10 title lost to a 6-7 Nebraska team......

You can claim the 20-7 game could have went the other way...but Nebraska dominated the game. But a loss is a loss is a loss, if you want to say the games could have went the other way...fine, they didn't...and you lost. What I find funny is, that Nebraska comes in to a new conference and the "bullies" that joined the Big Ten in 1899 has less wins over the same timespan. If Nebraska has sucked so bad...you would think Iowa would have surpassed them by now...no?
 
You, as in the collective 'you' of UN fans need to make up your minds. We have read/seen/heard multiple times on just this forum how "close" the game in Lincoln was last November 27th. Are you here to set the record straight that a score of 28-20 was not that close?

Those three wins by UN? Scores of 20-7, 13-7 and the overtime victory of 37-34 could have easily turned out in favor of Iowa. The point being that your original claim of having so great of some superiority in conference games won over the five year span that UN has been in the league is very weak.

The 'bullies' label has by and large been used to describe the play of Iowa's offensive line. Some attribute its inception to the "big uglies" tag that Hayden Fry used while coaching at Iowa. Nonetheless, it pales in comparison to what was the hue and cry of UN fans telling anyone who would listen how difficult it was to compete within the big8/big xii and that,if ever presented with the chance to play in the inferior Big Ten, Nebraska would dominate that league for season upon season. Best you now have to show is the the 2012 campaign where, as a supposedly ranked team, UN lost by 25 points to Ohio State and then proceeded to lost the CCG by that 31-70 score! Where is that dominance that we heard so much about?

So, which is farther from that reality, 13? Iowa going 8-0 and playing Michigan State literally to the last seconds or 7-1 (7-2) UN with embarrassing losses to Ohio State and Wisconsin?

Total domination!!!! Iowa must not be in the same league as Nebraska.
 
Where they've given up 60+ points multiple times? No, they haven't. If some of Iowa's losses have been laughers, you really need to come up with a more descriptive word for Nebraska's implosions. Dumpster fire?

You seem to forget that Nebraska fired the coach responsible for the dumpster fires...Iowa on the other hand...extends and gives its coach a raise. Dumpster fire would be losing to Iowa State/Indiana/Purdue/Central Mich/NW all in the same year. Now that's a dumpster fire.
 
Since 2011, one team has won 6 out of 10 versus the big three in the East (tOSU, mich and MSU) while the other has won 2 out of 8 versus the big three. This is why schedule matters and although Iowa doesn't control B1G schedule, maybe don't puff your chests out so much over 2015. I don't have a dog in the fight, but herkyfan is the worst so I could not resist.
 
Both are reality? Both happened...BTW, that team you lost to in the Big 10 title lost to a 6-7 Nebraska team......

You can claim the 20-7 game could have went the other way...but Nebraska dominated the game. But a loss is a loss is a loss, if you want to say the games could have went the other way...fine, they didn't...and you lost. What I find funny is, that Nebraska comes in to a new conference and the "bullies" that joined the Big Ten in 1899 has less wins over the same timespan. If Nebraska has sucked so bad...you would think Iowa would have surpassed them by now...no?


Too tough for you to admit that UN just has not lived up to the billing....but, but, but they are definitely 'blue bloods'!

BTW, back at ya slick.... that team that beat UN in the CCG 31-70 has never scored as many points against Iowa. Not even 60 points. Or 50.

Here we go with the revisionist history.... tell me the score at halftime for that 2011 game in Lincoln. Now, recall for me/us exactly what the time remaining was on the play clock when the UN running back scored just before half. Oh, and wasn't this the nationally ranked edition of UN versus the downtrodden, unworthy Iowa Hawkeyes?

What does the fact that Iowa has been a longstanding member of a better conference have to do with anything here? The fact remains that mighty UN came in feeling that it would 'own' the Big Ten and that has not even been close to this reality you are having such a difficult time with now. Better yet, you want to continue to degrade Iowa when all it does is shed brighter light on how mediocre, at best, UN has been since the 2011 season began. Iowa is not claiming 'blue blood' status - only that they have nothing to prove against today's version of Big Dead. Most objective observers would agree with that.
 
And Iowa State is in the same league as Iowa...right?

In the same context as consistently playing every year, like playing Nebraska since they've joined, no.

26-14 every year since 1977. Hey, they didn't play for 43 years.

Iowa State's bowl wins, in their entire history...3

Iowa State's last conference championship 1912

Ricky Stanzi's bowl wins...3
 
Too tough for you to admit that UN just has not lived up to the billing....but, but, but they are definitely 'blue bloods'!

BTW, back at ya slick.... that team that beat UN in the CCG 31-70 has never scored as many points against Iowa. Not even 60 points. Or 50.

Here we go with the revisionist history.... tell me the score at halftime for that 2011 game in Lincoln. Now, recall for me/us exactly what the time remaining was on the play clock when the UN running back scored just before half. Oh, and wasn't this the nationally ranked edition of UN versus the downtrodden, unworthy Iowa Hawkeyes?

What does the fact that Iowa has been a longstanding member of a better conference have to do with anything here? The fact remains that mighty UN came in feeling that it would 'own' the Big Ten and that has not even been close to this reality you are having such a difficult time with now. Better yet, you want to continue to degrade Iowa when all it does is shed brighter light on how mediocre, at best, UN has been since the 2011 season began. Iowa is not claiming 'blue blood' status - only that they have nothing to prove against today's version of Big Dead. Most objective observers would agree with that.
There's nothing objective about your statement.
 
You seem to forget that Nebraska fired the coach responsible for the dumpster fires...Iowa on the other hand...extends and gives its coach a raise. Dumpster fire would be losing to Iowa State/Indiana/Purdue/Central Mich/NW all in the same year. Now that's a dumpster fire.

You mean like losing to BYU, Illinois, Northwestern and Purdue in the same year? Or is that not the same in Huskerland? I can play that game too.
 
In the same context as consistently playing every year, like playing Nebraska since they've joined, no.

26-14 every year since 1977. Hey, they didn't play for 43 years.

Iowa State's bowl wins, in their entire history...3

Iowa State's last conference championship 1912

Ricky Stanzi's bowl wins...3

While you are at it then...would you mind comparing Northwestern's history to Nebraska's? Thanks!
 

OK, I get it. You saw you were wrong and this is your way of waving the white flag. That's cool. I'm honestly tired of going back and forth.

You have to realize that based on our history with Northwestern being competitive, that I wouldn't say that we have been a vastly superior program. That is why going from losing to them last year to pounding them this year is impressive for Riley and his staff. That is the point I have been trying to convey, but for some reason there has been a disconnect.
 
Too tough for you to admit that UN just has not lived up to the billing....but, but, but they are definitely 'blue bloods'!

BTW, back at ya slick.... that team that beat UN in the CCG 31-70 has never scored as many points against Iowa. Not even 60 points. Or 50.

Here we go with the revisionist history.... tell me the score at halftime for that 2011 game in Lincoln. Now, recall for me/us exactly what the time remaining was on the play clock when the UN running back scored just before half. Oh, and wasn't this the nationally ranked edition of UN versus the downtrodden, unworthy Iowa Hawkeyes?

What does the fact that Iowa has been a longstanding member of a better conference have to do with anything here? The fact remains that mighty UN came in feeling that it would 'own' the Big Ten and that has not even been close to this reality you are having such a difficult time with now. Better yet, you want to continue to degrade Iowa when all it does is shed brighter light on how mediocre, at best, UN has been since the 2011 season began. Iowa is not claiming 'blue blood' status - only that they have nothing to prove against today's version of Big Dead. Most objective observers would agree with that.

Don't sell yourself short...you have had plenty of laughers in your history vs Wisconsin...I can name a few if you would like. I fail to see what the halftime score has to do with the actual outcome of the game? Hell...when Iowa won 38-17 in Lincoln it was a one score game with 10 minutes left...are you telling me that game could have went the other way as well? Mediocre since 2011 but better record than the "bullies"<-----LOL, of the Big Ten
 
Sure they do. Iowa has 5 top ten finishes since 2002 and the once mighties have ZERO.

Pretty clear to me.

Must ignore? Of course we must. Anything and everything that skirt fan doesn't like must be ignored.

More please.

You're 2-3 vs us, dope.

More please.
 
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