Iowa State Outplaced Iowa
- Thread starter Scruddy
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Also ISU and UNI both had more National Champs
It was their best team in years and it took suspensions to 4 returning NCAA qualifiers, including 2 all Americans, for them to finally beat Iowa by 1.5 points after 17 years.
Doesn’t even register on the list of concerns about this program. We’d have been a solid 75-80 points behind PSU even without the suspensions. Much bigger concern. Not acceptable to be that far behind.
To be honest, probably even more concerning for the sport that Iowa had the suspension issues and the most any team other than PSU could out score Iowa by was 5.5 points.
Excellent post. And it took a lucky medical forfeit (worth 2 points) in ISU’s last match Saturday morning to beat Iowa by 1.5. Woods dominated Echemendia to knock him to the 5/6th place match against McNeil from UNC (who had beat Woods on Friday). This would have been a difficult match for Echemendia, but McNeil medical forfeited giving ISU 3 points (2 for MF and 1 for 5th). This stuff happens in tournaments, but very fortunate.
Cornell had 3 AA and finished in 2nd place. Its unbelievable.
I've never been on the fire Brands thing. Still am not. Iowa was literally a match or two away from second place. Unfortunately, consistently keeping up with psu seems like a pipe dream.
I've never been on the fire Brands thing. Still am not. Iowa was literally a match or two away from second place. Unfortunately, consistently keeping up with psu seems like a pipe dream.
PSU had over half their team in the finals and had two other all Americans. They had one of their number 1 seeds and a returning AA not even place. Tyler Kasak was a fill-in for returning AA Van Ness, and he scored a boat load of bonus points, finishing 3rd. They graduate some upper weight studs, but they reload with a huge recruiting class. It’s going to be a long time before anyone derails the PSU train. I said it before, going forward I’m not going to pay attention to them. The race is for second for the foreseeable future. Sad but true.
Brands has the same problem as Captain Kirk. Neither one can see offensively that there is a problem and would look for a replacement to fix the problem.
Why, is Cael gonna continue to ruin the sport of college wrestling for another 15-20 years?
I'm not going to worry too much about ISU finishing ahead of Iowa when Encemendia and Bastida are at ISU.
I certainly don't want Beth to waive academic requirements to get wrestlers through admissions.
I certainly don't want Beth to waive academic requirements to get wrestlers through admissions.
So if you wanna make this argument about gifting Iowa st 3 points you need to mention how rathjen was also gifted points for a medical default match…..I bet you just “forgot” about that one didn’t ya?😉
meh.
Hard to get worked up about finishing by a whisker lower in a barely meaningful position when one team completely dominated.
Hard to get worked up about finishing by a whisker lower in a barely meaningful position when one team completely dominated.
A little bit of a difference, but bet you just “forgot” to mention that. Rathjen had to actually wrestle (injury happened during the match) and it was against the 29th seed. Echemendia had just gotten dominated by Woods and he was supposed to wrestle the #6 seed from UNC that had beaten Woods earlier in tournament. The match didn’t even start, Echemendia didn’t have to wrestle. But thanks for visiting the Iowa forum.
