Iowa vs Ohio St Match Notes
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Call the press AD and JE could be wrestling again for the very first time.
Holy schnikies Batman did you hear the news.
Holy schnikies Batman did you hear the news.
Anyone else feel like we will truly know where we stand in regards to national title hopes after Friday night. If Bull, Assad and grandpa Mike are all successful, put me in the group who thinks we still have a legitimate chance this year w/o Lee.
Looking forward to seeing Eirman vs D’Emilio. Eirman hasn’t looked great vs some mediocre competition, D’Emilio is a step up. I’ve seen him ranked as high as 14th. Kemmerer and Smith should be another good one. Kem has looked pretty dominant recently and Smith is a tough SOB. Big test for Abe vs a stingy Keleb Romero. A win puts Abe into the serious AA conversation IMHO.
Keys to winning title in dual order:
1) Ayala placing higher then PSU. Both could easily not place. Ayala placing and PSU not placing would be ideal.
2) Desanto getting third with a lot of bonus or making the finals. If he doesn’t make the finals it would be nice if Fix beats RBY.
3) Eierman making the finals with a lot of bonus and beating Lee.
4) Max finally getting on the stand and Bartlett not. I could see both AA and I could see both not.
5) Young placing like he has twice already
6) Bull finally getting over the hump with some bonus. Berge not placing would be great also
7) Kemerer beating Storocci in the Finals with some bonus along the way. I’d even take a slip up by PSU here in the semi’s
8) Assad finding the stand. Amine or Hidlay beating Brooks
9) Warner out placing Dean
10) Cass out placing Kerk with Bonus along the way.
not all these things need to happen but if most of them do then we are sitting pretty! This is why we wrestle the matches!
The fact that Desanto is listed as in the lineup is exciting. It probably needs its own thread.
Bingo. If all 10 starters go and wrestle well, this could be a 9-1 or 8-2 beatdown for OSU. Would like to see Max be a tough out for Sasso as well. 149,157, and 184 all looked solid last weekend. Lets see if that can continue.
Please change thread title to “DeSanto news.”
Anybody who is experiencing their first senior year in 2022, has another year of eligibility left.
Nothing against Bennett, but good to see Ironman back in the lineup. Great effort by Schreiver against tough matchups in Illinois for anyone and especially a true freshman. But hope Desanto is back and 100% but even if only 83% will be fine.
Max wrestled Sasso great last season for about 6:45, went for broke and got stuck. Sasso has some sneaky good D, and has elite explosiveness when he wants to. I love Max’s fight and hope he can mix up his attacks Friday. Last go around, he was a bit predictable and Sammy was ready for it.
If tOSU looks as bad vs Iowa as they looked against Michigan... Hawks will win nine matches.
This is a surprisingly important meet, because it’s amazing how many question marks we still have in our lineup.
125 is big because every match gives us more information about his level.
133/141 we just need to see who is wrestling and if they look healthy.
165 is big because it’s a top tier wrestler and Bull has not looked too good since dual season began.
174 would be a huge match. But I’m not sure a Kemdawg will wrestle, I wouldn’t be surprised if Tom holds him out of any tough matches.
184 is a huge match for Abe
This should be a lopsided dual, but there are a bunch of important matches.
125 is big because every match gives us more information about his level.
133/141 we just need to see who is wrestling and if they look healthy.
165 is big because it’s a top tier wrestler and Bull has not looked too good since dual season began.
174 would be a huge match. But I’m not sure a Kemdawg will wrestle, I wouldn’t be surprised if Tom holds him out of any tough matches.
184 is a huge match for Abe
This should be a lopsided dual, but there are a bunch of important matches.
Do you mean Karchla has looked like a beast all season or vs Michigan?
Because if you simply mean vs Michigan... that was because he was wrestling their 41/49 backup. The kid literally has wrestled at 41 this season.
I agree. With all the early year talk of 'pitch counts, ' I would not be surprised to see Swafford's dual debut (match notes be damned).
I believe Ethan Smith is the kind of wrestler one may wish to avoid if nursing a tenuous injury. Iowa certainly doesn't need Kemerer to win the dual.
On the other hand, I would be happy for Michael to see him go against Smith and perform at a high level with no issue. I believe that's what all hope to see.
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He's 31-1 over two seasons, with multiple wins over ranked guys. That's pretty beastly.
His best wins are the 2 against Ramirez from Cornell this year. He also beat Jake Wentzel from Pitt 4-3. He lost to Griffith which was his only other match against a top 10 opponent in his career. He only beat a guy named Lavearn Bryan from Tiffin University 9-8 earlier this year. He is definitely good but he hasn’t faced the top tier guys yet, besides Griffith. We will see tomorrow.
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Hamiti and O'Toole make me a lot more nervous for Alex than Karchla, but that is just me.
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Kharchla is coming off a major knee injury last year and was wearing a massive brace early in the season. He mentioned in an interview how the brace was slowing him down. He shed the brace at CKLV and has looked much better since then.
Also before his injury he nearly teched Mekhi Lewis in a freestyle match. It's on Flo BTW. I don't think he is back to that level though. I've seen some gas tank and bottom issues in some of his matches this year. I wouldn't be surprised to see him up early but then lose it in the third to Bull. That's basically what happened in his loss to Griffith.
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He also has wins against Amine (ranked #10 on Intermat) and Conigliaro (#12). That's a 5-1 record again top-15 guys, including a MD. I agree, we will see tomorrow.
So can you only point out the positives for the other team?
Never seen you go to bat defending one of our own guys with "bad wins" against guys.
I think it’s possible he is cutting a ton of weight. I said beastly, as in he looks like he weighs 185 pounds out there on the mat.
One oddity - he is pale as a ghost. He needs to get with the program and hit that tanning booth.
One oddity - he is pale as a ghost. He needs to get with the program and hit that tanning booth.
NW Grades (?)
Did I miss a thread for this? Either way: DA - A : Slick as heck. He actually had several TD’s that slipped away, which he might be able to finish later in the year. I was particularly impressed that he held onto that cradle, because it really does look like everyone he goes up against has a...
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I'm not big on worrying about "bad wins" unless it becomes a habit. Especially for young guys.
In the NW match, we had seven starters who wrestled. Of those, I graded six of them, and I gave four A's out of those six. I did not give a grade to Cass, because he handled the guy well but got spladled and probably gifted four points.
I do not believe I am unfair to any of our guys. I love our guys.
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You gave young a C- for his "bad win".NW Grades (?)
Did I miss a thread for this? Either way: DA - A : Slick as heck. He actually had several TD’s that slipped away, which he might be able to finish later in the year. I was particularly impressed that he held onto that cradle, because it really does look like everyone he goes up against has a...
I'm not big on worrying about "bad wins" unless it becomes a habit. Especially for young guys.
In the NW match, we had seven starters who wrestled. Of those, I graded six of them, and I gave four A's out of those six. I did not give a grade to Cass, because he handled the guy well but got spladled and probably gifted four points.
I do not believe I am unfair to any of our guys. I love our guys.
That sounds nitpicky but I'd say nearly every post I've seen from you has been a worst case scenario for us and a near best case for everybody else. I certainly couldn't picture you sticking up for one of our guys who barely beat multiple terrible (relatively) wrestlers.
If we had a RS Frosh who was 31-1 with multiple wins against ranked guys I would. I am all compliments for Drake with his three losses and close wins against unranked guys. Because he is a true Frosh with some good wins and no bad losses.
Grading is based on the guy. If we have a two time AA who is struggling, and wins a nail-biter against an unranked guy, he’s getting a lower grade than a Frosh with the same result.
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Anyone else thinking Murin has possibly closed the gap with Sasso? What would it take for him to pull the upset? Sasso isn't invulnerable, and he does give up takedowns against lesser opponents - he did last week - and fades late in matches at times. I think if he stays out of cradles and doesn't give up his legs early he has a chance.
Needs the perfect storm, but it certainly could be possible. I think coming off bottom strong will be a big key. Don't let him stall ride on top, push the pace and wear him down in the 3rd.
I love watching Murin wrestle but what have you seen from him that indicates improvement? He always does that head inside single and is terrific at it. But he doesn't set up those moves well enough to take out too guys like Sasso. All Sasso has to do is grab a leg and ride it out to stalemate. Then in the 3rd he will try for cradles when Murin is wearing himself out.
He is so close to being able to beat the top guys but he has been at the same level for over a year now with no real improvement. I can see him making the podium but beat Sasso? Going to be tall task without some new moves from neutral. Or he gasses Sasso, which he could do. I know Murin can get to the next level. He is only a few small adjustments away and it is something he has to figure out.
No, until Murin can consistently finish, not just get to the leg, he won't be able to beat Sasso. Sasso is remarkable at defending takedowns to begin with. Loved Murin's win over Yaya and that could pay dividends for his seeding but Sasso is a different animal, IMO.
Plus, Murin doesn’t need to beat Sasso to place 7/8 at Nats, which would be fantastic.
