Iowa WBB 2025 Recruiting Thread

[anon_salmfilsntd0b]

I remember last season someone posting about how they ran into Chad G at some kind of event. They asked him about his daughter’s thoughts on Iowa and he replied something along the lines of “I want her to go to Iowa but kids are gonna be kids.” A kind of “can’t force them to do anything” reply. OP inferred that she was just taking her time, and of course others chimed in that the deal is all but done, etc…but to me, it sounded far from a positive picture. If anything it sounded like she probably wasn’t that interested…this development would be in keeping with that 🤷🏽‍♂️

Honestly I am not worried. I think she is a very good player, I think her height will be a bit of hindrance. We are in on plenty of really really good guards and wings right now. Plus I think she is a Hawk all the way he is very mistaken in this case.

But why do you think that? Do you know her, her family, her coach? Or are you just wishing?

If the implications are Iowa is no longer an option it would be that Iowa is no longer the option. Maybe they think they are getting too many guards with Deal maybe Speiser or maybe concerns on bringing in an influential father on a much lesser degree than lets say someone like Brian Joens.

I think the implication is that MG is not interested in Iowa. Bluder is not turning down top 25 talent without a specific reason, like B. Joens. But Bluder has offered MG and brought her to campus multiple times. Speiser is a W/F and Deal is a W. Neither should play PG, I don’t think their presence should impact MG’s decision much unless they didn’t get along personally. Speiser is not a sure thing either btw.

 

[the24fan]

And still hasn't even played her junior year of hs, so any HEARSAY one way or the other is probably inaccurate. Give the girl the grace to grow at a natural pace, explore, and eventually (when ready and the time is right) decide. A lot can happen in the next year, 2 years, 3 years...

Just relax.

This times a million.
She's a 16!! year old kid.
She's practically still playing Roblox. Calm down everyone. Your life will go on no matter what she decides to do.

 

[bunsen82]

I remember last season someone posting about how they ran into Chad G at some kind of event. They asked him about his daughter’s thoughts on Iowa and he replied something along the lines of “I want her to go to Iowa but kids are gonna be kids.” A kind of “can’t force them to do anything” reply. OP inferred that she was just taking her time, and of course others chimed in that the deal is all but done, etc…but to me, it sounded far from a positive picture. If anything it sounded like she probably wasn’t that interested…this development would be in keeping with that 🤷🏽‍♂️


But why do you think that? Do you know her, her family, her coach? Or are you just wishing?

I think the implication is that MG is not interested in Iowa. Bluder is not turning down top 25 talent without a specific reason, like B. Joens. But Bluder has offered MG and brought her to campus multiple times. Speiser is a W/F and Deal is a W. Neither should play PG, I don’t think their presence should impact MG’s decision much unless they didn’t get along personally. Speiser is not a sure thing either btw.

Shikreto, 2 years ago she said Iowa was her #1. She has been to several of the Iowa games and seemed to be actively participating. We have no information that shows she has changed her mind, as much as my stance on whether the information is correct is hypothetical so is yours. However we can both agree the firmest line in the sand is the offer is no longer viable. That would be a weird development but it is a possibility that even you have to admit is there. The reasoning why . . . who knows. I have no information in this at all.

The only take I have is that Hawkbuck wanted to open a can of worms and grab his popcorn.

 

[anon_salmfilsntd0b]

Shikreto, 2 years ago she said Iowa was her #1. She has been to several of the Iowa games and seemed to be actively participating. We have no information that shows she has changed her mind, as much as my stance on whether the information is correct is hypothetical so is yours. However we can both agree the firmest line in the sand is the offer is no longer viable. That would be a weird development but it is a possibility that even you have to admit is there. The reasoning why . . . who knows. I have no information in this at all.

The only take I have is that Hawkbuck wanted to open a can of worms and grab his popcorn. I believe the tournament he was talking about was back in December, so no only is this information potentially wrong or questionable, it is also extremely dated.

I do not think Bluder would pull an offer to MG esp if she had her visiting campus in February. I think that is a lot less likely than a kid simply changing her mind bc she’s getting offers from all over the country.

She may still be a hawk (or Clark) fan but that doesn’t mean she necessarily wants to become a Hawkeye. I’ve been cautious about her as long as she’s been a subject on this board and I still am. Comments from an 8th grader never had much sway with me. And the one interaction I’ve heard of with her dad (see above) didn’t do much to make me feel better.

 

[bunsen82]

I do not think Bluder would pull an offer to MG esp if she had her visiting campus in February. I think that is a lot less likely than a kid simply changing her mind bc she’s getting offers from all over the country. She may still be a hawk (or Clark!) but that doesn’t mean she necessarily wants to become a Hawkeye. I’ve been cautious about her as long as she’s been a subject on this board and I still am. Comments from an 8th grader never had much sway with me.

If its a kid changing her mind, yet isn't making a decision for a year . . . why would Hawkbuck even post it.

 

[BraydonRoberts5]

I remember last season someone posting about how they ran into Chad G at some kind of event. They asked him about his daughter’s thoughts on Iowa and he replied something along the lines of “I want her to go to Iowa but kids are gonna be kids.” A kind of “can’t force them to do anything” reply. OP inferred that she was just taking her time, and of course others chimed in that the deal is all but done, etc…but to me, it sounded far from a positive picture. If anything it sounded like she probably wasn’t that interested…this development would be in keeping with that 🤷🏽‍♂️


But why do you think that? Do you know her, her family, her coach? Or are you just wishing?

I think the implication is that MG is not interested in Iowa. Bluder is not turning down top 25 talent without a specific reason, like B. Joens. But Bluder has offered MG and brought her to campus multiple times. Speiser is a W/F and Deal is a W. Neither should play PG, I don’t think their presence should impact MG’s decision much unless they didn’t get along personally. Speiser is not a sure thing either btw.

The thing about hawkbuck's intel that makes me a little skeptical is that they heard a while ago that Greenway wasn't coming. Maybe that was meant to mean "probably not coming" instead of "wasn't coming", but she just visited less than 2 months ago. And that visit came the day after a game, meaning an early morning to make it.

If the coaches thought Greenway was no longer interested, I don't think that visit happens. You don't want a recruit interested in going elsewhere spending the day talking to your other top targets. I also doubt Greenway's parents would want her to visit if she had decided she wasn't coming to Iowa. They've known Iowa's staff for years now.

 

[bunsen82]

The thing about hawkbuck's intel that makes me a little skeptical is that they heard a while ago that Greenway wasn't coming. Maybe that was meant to mean "probably not coming" instead of "wasn't coming", but she just visited less than 2 months ago. And that visit came the day after a game, meaning an early morning to make it.

If the coaches thought Greenway was no longer interested, I don't think that visit happens. You don't want a recruit interested in going elsewhere spending the day talking to your other top targets. I also doubt Greenway's parents would want her to visit if she had decided she wasn't coming to Iowa. They've known Iowa's staff for years now.

If they still like the target they continue to push. No different than Clark with Notre Dame. You still make that offer and visit and try to show them the red carpet and change their mind.

 

[BraydonRoberts5]

I do wonder if NIL is a factor at all, given Chad's earnings in the NFL...

NIL has two components: payments from collectives and endorsement deals with businesses to promote things. There are programs like LSU that are clearly ahead of Iowa on the payment from collectives front.

I'm not sure Greenway could find a better spot for endorsement deals with businesses, though. I assume there are business owners in the state that fondly remember Chad's time as a Hawkeye and would be happy to work with Maddyn the moment she steps on campus. It would be harder for her to match those deals at a powerhouse with a ton of star players or a less traditional power that isn't WBB crazy.

 

[BraydonRoberts5]

If they still like the target they continue to push. No different than Clark with Notre Dame. You still make that offer and visit and try to show them the red carpet and change their mind.

They didn't push with Clark and Notre Dame though.

Normally I'd understand the "keep trying" approach, but Greenway has visited Iowa probably more than any other prospect. She's probably the least likely player that one more visit could persuade.

 

[bunsen82]

They didn't push with Clark and Notre Dame though. She called them after she started to regret her verbal to ND.

Normally I'd understand the "keep trying" approach, but Greenway has visited Iowa probably more than any other prospect. She's probably the least likely player that one more visit could persuade.

So did they cancel Clarks last visit when they knew she was likely going to Notre Dame, did they stop talking to her or refusing her calls. Pretty sure they left the door open . . .

Even with someone who knows your program well, the quickest way to official shut the door would be to stop allowing her to visit the school or interact with other recruits.

 

[citizenHawk]

If I'm a player in today's game I would want to visit as many schools as possible while still in high school, so I have a very solid information base going forward with "free agency" always on the table. Taking visits and looking at all possibilities doesn't mean no to you or yes to them. It means I'm 16 years old and I have a lot of time to enjoy this process, and make my own decisions. Why would any player close the door on that at that age?

 

[BraydonRoberts5]

So did they cancel Clarks last visit when they knew she was likely going to Notre Dame, did they stop talking to her or refusing her calls. Pretty sure they left the door open . . .

Even with someone who knows your program well, the quickest way to official shut the door would be to stop allowing her to visit the school or interact with other recruits.

Clark made her verbal commitment sometime on the weekend of October 18, 2019. From the Wright Thompson piece, Iowa did nothing for a while until they hadn't seen an official announcement and reached out to an AAU coach to ask why. Then they called Clark and she said she'd changed her mind on her own. Clark officially committed to Iowa on November 12, 2019.

I don't believe Clark took a visit between October 18 and November 12. From all available information Iowa shut down its recruitment of Clark until enough time had passed that they wondered why she hasn't officially committed and by that point Clark had changed her mind herself.

 

[bunsen82]

If I'm a player in today's game I would want to visit as many schools as possible while still in high school, so I have a very solid information base going forward with "free agency" always on the table. Taking visits and looking at all possibilities doesn't mean no to you or yes to them. It means I'm 16 years old and I have a lot of time to enjoy this process, and make my own decisions. Why would any player close the door on that at that age?

I agree which makes hawkbucks take way out of left field. We also have to acknowledge he has had good intel in the past.

 

[bunsen82]

Clark made her verbal commitment sometime on the weekend of October 18, 2019. From the Wright Thompson piece, Iowa did nothing for a while until they hadn't seen an official announcement and reached out to an AAU coach to ask why. Then they called Clark and she said she'd changed her mind on her own. Clark officially committed to Iowa on November 12, 2019.

I don't believe Clark took a visit between October 18 and November 12. From all available information Iowa shut down its recruitment of Clark until enough time had passed that they wondered why she hasn't officially committed and by that point Clark had changed her mind herself.

The rumors all along was that Notre Dame was going to be the school to beat. I am saying before her last visit the implications were Iowa was still #2.

 

[citizenHawk]

I agree which makes hawkbucks take way out of left field. We also have to acknowledge he has had good intel in the past.

That's just it. Being told she is looking at schools can mean a wide variety of things, and this was one person's interpretation. I don't give it any weight. It's all smoke for another year.

 

[BraydonRoberts5]

The rumors all along was that Notre Dame was going to be the school to beat. I am saying before her last visit the implications were Iowa was still #2.

Everything I've read makes it seem like the coaches thought they still had a chance with Clark right up until they got the call about the ND verbal.

Hawkbuck's intel was phrased as though Greenway has decided she's not going to Iowa. Maybe that was overstating Greenway's actual position, but everything I've seen from the coaches says they stop recruiting players once they know they're out of the picture.

 

[anon_salmfilsntd0b]

That's just it. Being told she is looking at schools can mean a wide variety of things, and this was one person's interpretation. I don't give it any weight. It's all smoke for another year.

He did not say he was told she is looking at schools. It's quite clear to anyone who follows her on social media that she is looking all over the country. That's been clear for a year+ now on this site. What he said is "I've been told she is not coming to Iowa." and he said he heard it twice now -- including a week ago.

 

[bunsen82]

Everything I've read makes it seem like the coaches thought they still had a chance with Clark right up until they got the call about the ND verbal.

Hawkbuck's intel was phrased as though Greenway has decided she's not going to Iowa. Maybe that was overstating Greenway's actual position, but everything I've seen from the coaches says they stop recruiting players once they know they're out of the picture.

"I have been told that Greenway is NOT coming to Iowa. "

That is what he posted. There is no inference as to why, whether Maddyn decision or otherwise. You are also inferring regarding Maddyn that the hawkeye coaches and Bluder think they have no shot with Maddyn based off of Hawkbucks interpretation of information he has received. Bluder could have a completely different interpretation of their shot at Maddyn than Hawkbucks interpretation. We don't have enough information as to what is going on. This all conspiracy theory at this point which is why I said I think he is just enjoying himself eating popcorn.

 

[jockos]

Regarding Hawkbuck70...

I know we have a lot of new posters regarding WBB here. But Hawkbuck70 has brought good information to this board in the past including breaking Caitlin's committment to Iowa before it became public info.

I remember I questioned how solid her commit was to Notre Dame based on something I'd heard directly from a ND McGraw's Bench poster and other happenings (posted 10/18/19). I heard some snarky comments about it, but Hawkbuck70 came forward concurring he'd heard something similar. He later broke the news of her committment on 11/07/19 before it became public knowledge.

 

[anon_salmfilsntd0b]

Regarding Hawkbuck70...

I know we have a lot of new posters regarding WBB here. But Hawkbuck70 has brought good information to this board in the past including breaking Caitlin's committment to Iowa before it became public info.

I remember I questioned how solid her commit was to Notre Dame based on something I'd heard directly from a ND McGraw's Bench poster and other happenings (posted 10/18/19). I heard some snarky comments about it, but Hawkbuck70 came forward concurring he'd heard something similar. He later broke the news of her committment on 11/07/19 before it became public knowledge.

Was he the also the poster who knew Megan Meyer would transfer out?

 

[bunsen82]

Was he the also the poster who knew Megan Meyer would transfer out?

Looks like has had 3 or more very solid pieces of information before hand. The difference was the players in question he had info on all had connections or played with AIA. That is not the case here. So his information may be solid it may not be, but it is likely not as concrete as his previous information.

 

[BraydonRoberts5]

Was he the also the poster who knew Megan Meyer would transfer out?

Yes.

 

[SunzOutGunzOut]

I will start a "Is Maddyn Greenway still interested in Iowa thread" so we can get back to 2025 recruiting in this one

 

[bunsen82]

I will start a "Is Maddyn Greenway still interested in Iowa thread" so we can get back to 2025 recruiting in this one

This has fairly petered out anyways. I am sure when there is 2025 recruiting news it will be posted here.

 

[ZachJump]

Maybe they think they are getting too many guards

To many guards?

Have you ever watched a Lisa Bluder team?

 

[ZachJump]

I think her height will be a bit of hindrance

Absolutely

Except for Kelsey Plum and Kelsey Mitchell and Jackie Stiles tell me one player that has ever accomplished anything at her height.

 

[bunsen82]

To many guards?

Have you ever watched a Lisa Bluder team?

They stop accepting recruits at some point. Speiser is 6-1, Deal is 6 foot. Yes you are correct in the past Iowa hasn't worried about height, however with their C commits and other players they seem to be trying to get more length. This is all hypothetical at this point. When Hawkbuck puts out a cryptic message with no real information there ends up being lots of hypotheticals. As to guards even running bluders offense you still need at least 3-4 post players.

 

[r448chlpo]

I really hope Greenway comes to Iowa. I also really hope that all this speculation about the plans of a 16 year old with a world of options can come to an end for a few months! There are a couple number of talented 2025 recruits out there … let’s speculate about them for the time being. We need quality recruits and we can not wait to 2026 to get them on board.

 

[FranklinHawk]

I have zero insight on what the situation is, but can we please not compare Chad Greenway to Brian Joens. That's ridiculous.

 

[GunnerHawk]

FWIW, this is the 2025 recruiting thread. Greenway is a 2026 recruit.

 

[jockos]

Absolutely

Except for Kelsey Plum and Kelsey Mitchell and Jackie Stiles tell me one player that has ever accomplished anything at her height.

Greenway is listed at 5'8 but plays bigger.

There's actually quite a few who've had success in the WNBA who are 5'8 or under - Courtney Vandersloot, Jordin Canada. Courtney Williams, Arike Ogunbowale, Erica Wheeler, Aari McDonald, Dana Evans, Crystal Dangerfield, Tameka Johnson (retired 5'3 won title as starting PG in PHX). I know there are others, especially if you include collegiate success.

 

[ZachJump]

Greenway is listed at 5'8 but plays bigger.

There's actually quite a few who've had success in the WNBA who are 5'8 or under - Courtney Vandersloot, Jordin Canada. Courtney Williams, Arike Ogunbowale, Erica Wheeler, Aari McDonald, Dana Evans, Crystal Dangerfield, Tameka Johnson (retired 5'3 won title as starting PG in PHX). I know there are others, especially if you include collegiate success.

The three I listed are 5’8

I was being sarcastic. People bring up her height all the time like it really means something. Hell Spud Webb was shorter than her and he managed to play a decade in the NBA.

 

[ZachJump]

FWIW, this is the 2025 recruiting thread. Greenway is a 2026 recruit.

Forum police are strong in this thread.

 

[hawkod]

We are indeed desperate for any kind of information on Iowa WBB. Please take a deep breath and realize these things take time; we're only a month out from the National Championship Game.

 

[Kurt Johnson]

I will start a "Is Maddyn Greenway still interested in Iowa thread" so we can get back to 2025 recruiting in this one

How about everyone get on the 2026 thread with all of the 2026 recruiting discussions?

 

[ZachJump]

How about everyone get on the 2026 thread with all of the 2026 recruiting discussions?

You all have to be a blast to have conversations with.

A public forum is not a news site…it’s ebbs and flows of conversation.

 

[Kurt Johnson]

I'm a little amazed re: the level of emotional reaction and arguments around a HS player with 2 seasons to decide, as though where she is now couldn't change within the next few days/hours, let alone within that time frame. Plus, I'm seeing so many people rather wildly speculating around Bluder's actions and mindset. Let's (at least in this thread) focus on the 2025 recruits. There's plenty of mystery and conjecture available there for us to obsess and fight over!

 

[Kurt Johnson]

You all have to be a blast to have conversations with.

A public forum is not a news site…it’s ebbs and flows of conversation.

Yes, we all get that, but there is a reason that various threads are created. No one should dog anyone for talking off-thread, (and I've done plenty of that) but still, at some point it's helpful to bring the discussion into the format provided.

 

[undersized_post]

I'm a little amazed re: the level of emotional reaction and arguments around a HS player with 2 seasons to decide, as though where she is now couldn't change within the next few days/hours, let alone within that time frame. Plus, I'm seeing so many people rather wildly speculating around Bluder's actions and mindset. Let's (at least in this thread) focus on the 2025 recruits. There's plenty of mystery and conjecture available there for us to obsess and fight over!

This is why, despite being an avid fan, I just can't find the interest to follow recruiting. A bunch of grown adults (mostly men) speculating on the lives of teenage girls. Most with no real info just vibes. The Greenway girl being an Iowa legacy seems to bring up a lot of ~feelings~ in people lol. Most times when I check these recruiting threads they're a dumpster fire.

 

[jockos]

This is why, despite being an avid fan, I just can't find the interest to follow recruiting. A bunch of grown adults (mostly men) speculating on the lives of teenage girls. Most with no real info just vibes. The Greenway girl being an Iowa legacy seems to bring up a lot of ~feelings~ in people lol. Most times when I check these recruiting threads they're a dumpster fire.

If you think this is bad, trying living it.

Being a team manager I got the coaching bug and wanted to give it a go, I landed a GA role. Then moved on to 2 assistant jobs at lower D1 schools for 4 years and 3 years. I already knew Lisa, but interviewed with her despite knowing they'd go with a female minority it was good experience. My #1 reason for getting out of coaching though, recruiting. WBB was just starting to go down the same path MBB was, if you ask any coach they'll tell its the most frustrating thing they do, but also the most exciting too.