Is Iowa not recruiting PA wrestlers? They had success when they had Lee, DeSanto, Kem Dawg, Max, and Young. Iowa is getting some tough Iowa kids, but it seems they don't have any Pennsylvania kids anymore? Why not?
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Is Iowa wrestling not recruiting PA wrestlers?
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You're being too obvious. You can't make this your very first post. Like most things in life, you can't take shortcuts. You have to put in the effort of posting 30-50 times about ordinary things before making a troll post.
The real question is why Tom Ryan continues to recruit in Aruba every year when he has little to show for his efforts other than a tan.
Serious question from a hawkeye wrestling fan here. I notice they have not been getting any PA kids. They went from recruiting PA hard to not getting any kids. Curious about it. Iowa Hawkeye fan here and just found this forum. Yes I'm late to it lol.
I can’t answer your question but to kind of piggie back off that question; I’ve wondered if and how big of a hit Young Guns club has taken since DT opened his club? If it’s taken a pretty big hit that could play a role; as we’re a lot more likely to get kids from Young Guns than we are from M2.
Since you're new, a few tips first. Put on your thick-skinned suit, turn up your sarcasm meter, be aware there is an Ignore Poster button somewhere, and just have fun in this place, which is known as the Cesspool. There are alot of very knowledgeable wrestlers/fans in here, albeit with different opinions and alot of chaff to sift through. To your question, the biggest problem with a PA pipeline is, well, the PSU juggernaut. Hard for anyone to get elite PA kids out of PA. And in general, we are struggling to get very many elite kids from any state. Some believe we need all new coaching staff, some think at least new assistants, some focus on the need for better training methods, some think everything will be just fine in (another) year or 2 with only minor tweaks. You'll find muliple threads in here debating all this, ususally intermixed with political or religious debates. Oh yeah, if you want to call someone a moron, it is spelled moran in here. Welcome aboard.
You forgot to mention that the probability of anything happening is 83%
Great information for me and I look forward to following this group and it distracting me during the boring work day! I am love college wrestling and high school wrestling! I follow it and enjoy the roller coaster ride of it! I noticed last night looking at Iowa's roster that no PA kids are here and wondered why the hell not? Yes, PSU gets a lot of the top PA kids but I know their are elite PA kids that would put on the black and yellow Hawkeye singlet...just curious why this is not happening of lately?
I have a close friend in PA who knows the "scoop" about a lot things in PA wrestling scene. When I asked him this question a month ago about no PA kids going to Iowa, he stated he thinks that could possibly change with the current Young Guns PA kids coming up who are 8th-10th graders right now. They have some good ones coming up and they may want to wrestle at Iowa. DTs M2 club is feeding PSU some talented wrestlers!! I guess my question would also be, wouldn't it be smart for Iowa staff to continue the Seabolt pipeline and get that Young Guns PA pipeline flowing? We know that no M2 kids are going to Iowa!
Several really good clubs have cropped up in PA over the last 4-7 years. M2 by Taylor and Chance Marsteller is doing quite well with his club (name escapes me). For a while, Young Guns was 1 of several elite clubs in PA. There looks to be more now, and the product they are turning out is phenomenal. So not sure YG is past peak. They may have some dilution though. Guys are more ready to start on day one because they are learning hand fighting usually only taught at the college level and practicing situational wrestling.
This is a fantastic video made by Tyler Kasak's club coach critiquing every one of Tyler's matches at nationals and how it relates back to his club instruction. This video isn't about PSU. It's about what is being taught at high end clubs and how it can quickly translate onto the mat at the college level. Great stuff. Well worth the 25 minutes.
This is a fantastic video made by Tyler Kasak's club coach critiquing every one of Tyler's matches at nationals and how it relates back to his club instruction. This video isn't about PSU. It's about what is being taught at high end clubs and how it can quickly translate onto the mat at the college level. Great stuff. Well worth the 25 minutes.
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We need to recruit California, Hawaii, and Cuba if we are gonna keep the streak vs Iowa State alive.
Too far of a drive. It’s better if they just have Telford give them a call.
Oddly enough there’s an 83% chance of nothing happening as well. Just go with it despite the maths — it’s easier that way.
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We don't need to recruit... The best wrestlers want to come here. This is Iowa!!!
Gabe Arnold was a PA recruit, so was Kolby Franklin. So was Wyatt Hensen. Not saying its a pipeline by any means, just stating facts. Iowa also narrowly missed on a handful of PA kids in the current class. I would find it hard to believe Iowa is not all in on Forrest and Bo as well.
Arnold and Henson were not really traditional PA recruits having moved there from other states.
I heard that rumor also. If so that is ridiculous! Go get the best kids in the country and who cares if they are from PA, Iowa, or any other state. We seen some good winning in Iowa when Lee and the gang were electric in Carver Hawkeye Arena.
Bo and Forrest are Young Guns kids so maybe that helps build that pipeline back to Iowa. They better be all in on Bassett and Forrest because that could persuade some other top recruits to come. Melvin Miller is also in that mix with Bo and Forrest. From what I hear there are several other Young Guns kids coming up that hopefully would want to follow behind Bo.
Steller Trained is the name of Chance Marstellers club. So basically you have Young Guns, Steller Trained, and M2 that the Hawkeyes could be recruiting. Throw M2 out because that's a PSU pipeline. I wonder if the staff will get back to getting some of the Young Guns kids and start recruting Steller Trained kids? Also have Joe Bachmann out in PA that will be recruited heavy! From what I hear Young Guns has some hammers coming up the pipe and Steller has to have some hammers also. Let's get these kids to Iowa and join the Seabolt recruits!
I think smalls already let us know we are not in on Bo and Forrest anymore (them not interested in the hawks). Need to start building those relationships with the top clubs.
Bo and Forrest show up at M2 as often as they show up at YG.
No way. I disagree! Bassett is a Young Guns kids and Spencer Lee could have a lot to do with that. Bo fits the Iowa mold. So many other good kids out in PA coming up that they can start recruiting if they aren't already. Get the top Seabolt kids and get back in PA recruiting those kids. What did Smalls say? I missed that.
I tried to look for it so maybe I read it wrong but I think he said we were out on Bo, Forrest and Blaze??? I believe he said the staff was on them but they were not interested. He has a pretty good gage on recruits also so I would assume he is right...
As long as you have Strittmatter then you have a Iowa connection. That is a foot in the door. If they are at M2 also you still have to recruit them. Build a relationship with Marsteller also to get his hammers at his club
Bo fits the Iowa mold? Which mold is that?
Well if you don't get Bo then you better go after Joe Bachmann, Landon Sidun, or even the Maddox Shaw kid who is a junior and still uncommitted. He beat the PSU recruit Perry in state finals in PA. Bachmann won Super 32 like 8 times and the Sidun kid is a beast!
"If they are at M2 also you still have to recruit them"... can't stress this part enough. You can't give up on a kid because they are at a specific club that may lean PSU or another school.
Same with individual kids who are in the I'm only going to "enter specific school here." You just never know and you never know if that "specific school" will want them.
I wouldn't care what club, school, state, or whatever - if you feel they are good enough, recruit them. Show them you're interested no matter what. I guess if they/parents say, "Don't contact us again," you can move on. But, I would guess if someone told Cael that and he still loved them enough, a call or good old-fashioned letter saying you respect their decision, but the door is open if you'd ever like to talk or something along those lines would at least leave the door open, even if it's .000001% chance.
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It's 83% of the time 100% of the time.
If Iowa really is out on Bassett, Forrest, and Blaze the staff should be questioning them on what steered them away. We are missing on too many of these studs and Iowa needs to figure out why and rectify it. PSU is getting plenty, but other schools are getting as many or more of them as Iowa and that is a big problem, especially when they are need weights and would step right in for the Hawks.
I had the same thought- which Iowa wrestler does he remind you of?
He reminds me of Mesenbrink- 100% motor and wrestles like he's late for an appointment.
So true
You definitely want the best Iowa kids to filter in but come on man, PA kids you want as well. It's no coincidence some of the best years recently was with those Young Guns PA kids that all came to Iowa and mixed with the Iowa studs along with Marinelli out of Ohio.
Brands in the early days. Some Spencer with the tilts and DeSanto with the forward pressure. I do like the Messenbrink comparison though!
Tom Brands, Terry Brands, Lincoln Mcilravy, Mark Ironside, Matt Mcdonough, Brent Metcalf
Iowa is not getting any of them listed above…..that’s a fact, not an opinion
Iowa needs to bring in a coach or 2 that can roll with Bo and Forrest and beat both of them handily. M* and Terry could neither beat either of them any longer. We need hammers on staff and in the HWC or we can kiss guys like these 2 bye bye for the foreseeable future.
We have a solid chance at getting M-2 recruits, once DT becomes the Iowa head coach.
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