What's your point? They were terrorists and in that sense collateral damage is acceptable. You want to house them at your place? The more you open your mouth the more stupid you sound.
Is Iran a "Normal Nation"?
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Are there really.people on this thread siding with Iran?
I'm so impressed one of our posters speaks Farsi enough to be able translate the translation so well. And claiming that Iran hasn't threatened to wipe out Israel? Such honesty......of course Iran had on multiple occasions threatened to push Israel into the sea and to wipe them off the map ....but whatever
I'm so impressed one of our posters speaks Farsi enough to be able translate the translation so well. And claiming that Iran hasn't threatened to wipe out Israel? Such honesty......of course Iran had on multiple occasions threatened to push Israel into the sea and to wipe them off the map ....but whatever
Do you feel superior with your puerile name calling? You're not. Though, I can see why you usually run from debate.
The point is, which you fail miserably at attempting to comprehend, is that we are over there terrorizing them. There is no proof that they were terrorists. Bring them in for a trial. In fact, we killed a Reuters journalist, Chelsea Manning leaked it, Assange made the public aware and now the west is slowly killing him in Belmarsh. We've killed enough so oil oligarchs can reap the rewards while dolts like you cheer for the spilling of blood.
What debate have I run from? Seriously? You want Ayman Al-Zawahiri hanging out with you watching Netflix? I'd rather they die there than where I live. Put away the tin foil for a few minutes, detox from whatever crap you get from Alex Jones and grow a brain stem (at a minimum). Then when you are actually cognizant of differentiating reality from fantasy land, take me on. I admire what President Obama did and I am super happy Soleimani is dead as dirt.
And many evangelicals and “conservatives” voted for and support someone who brags about sexually assaulting women, bangs porn stars and pays them, is pro-tariff and spends money and runs up deficits worse than any Dem in history. Hey...that’s you! Go figure.
Farsi? Get off it. I've heard their leaders say it many times in various mediums over the years.
I didn’t side with him I opposed assassination as a government policy. It’s against international law and it’s a dangerous precedent.
Your posts, excuse me, rants, have all the coherence of a meth induced rat in a maze who stops along the way to eat giant Pixie sticks followed by Mountain Dew chasers. Does it have any relevance to what we're talking about? No. You managed, in vain no less, (SURPRISE) to attempt to marginalize me by squeezing in all the tiresome cliches (tin-foil hat, Alex Jones blah blah blah) with a few derisive remarks. Oh... how original! All emotional ramblings.
You admire Obama for bombing 7 countries in 8 years? Assassinating Americans abroad w/o apprehending them and giving them a fair trial? Yeah! That's real admirable. My God, Man...you have the morals of a snake. Because of these actions, America is seen as the greatest threat to world peace. And not just his administration either. However, you brought him up. By bombing helpless women and children, he has created MORE terrorists. This has absolutely nothing to do with terrorism. It's a casus belli. It' all about stealing their energy. Only you're too damn stupid to know any better.
You support a death economy which is downright morbid. It would be a lot less costly to just trade with these nations. Not good for the MIC though. You're about as anti-American as they come. This way of doing business is loathsome. It pushes nations into the waiting arms of Russia and China. In fact, we have joined these nations together. The main terrorists are Sunnis of Saudi Arabia and Israel, not Shia Iran or Iraq. We have spent over $7 TRILLION in these senseless, perpetual wars and the money would be better off spent HERE in the US building hospitals and infrastructure and educating our youth. Instead, you can't get enough military and killing. You support the greatest cause of global warming on earth...our military.
Obama killed terrorists. Whether they were American or not, is an issue for the FISA courts and clandestine agencies. I don't regret, for one femtosecond, that they are dead. Their central goal is to kill innocent human beings here and abroad and I am glad President Obama did so. I support President Trump fully also in this endeavor. If you have committed no crime or aren't a terrorist, there's nothing to worry about. If you like to hang out in Jalalabad or Khyber Pakthunkawa, chances are you are a Jihadi ass clown and your last vision will be a hellfire missile.
As far as marginalizing you, I know decapitated mice in my lab that have more brain function than what you possess. You are a wholesale idiot not worth my time but your posts are amusing, in the "I'm an idiot and I don't understand realpolitik kind of way." Now, shouldn't you be filming the sequel to the Last Samurai? Toodles.
Toodles? How effeminate! And stop with your Stalin like deliverance of justice.
That's the 3rd time you brought up Last Samurai. Congrats Clouseau. Psst! It's not a secret. It's not a 'Gotcha' moment. And these mice you know, are they injected with the same drugs as you?
"Obama killed terrorists." Correction: He created terrorists, you flipping horse's ass. He leveled whole cities...much to the delight of Raytheon and Lockheed Martin. When he pursued such Satan like actions, the son of the father he just killed takes up arms against the US. We use terrorism as an excuse to be there. It's a tactic that never ends. It's like fighting the bogeyman. He's here. No...he's there. But, pom-pom shaking putzes like you get all puffy because you're easily manipulated like someone with their 2 fingers up your nostrils as they drag you around. Your jingoism is repulsive.
3 weeks ago, you never even heard of Soleimani. Now you believe the same clandestine services that lied about gas attacks in Douma, Syria. Afghanistan has been 1 huge lie. You still believe in WMD's in Iraq? They lied there too. They lied about incubators being unplugged in Kuwait before that. But, you still believe in Santa, Easter Bunny and unicorns. How many times must someone piss on your leg before you realize it's not raining out?
Where was the terrorist hiding in this picture?
Go eat your cheese, little rat!
When are you moving to Jalalabad? Is that a picture of your home?Toodles? How effeminate! And stop with your Stalin like deliverance of justice.
That's the 3rd time you brought up Last Samurai. Congrats Clouseau. Psst! It's not a secret. It's not a 'Gotcha' moment. And these mice you know, are they injected with the same drugs as you?
"Obama killed terrorists." Correction: He created terrorists, you flipping horse's ass. He leveled whole cities...much to the delight of Raytheon and Lockheed Martin. When he pursued such Satan like actions, the son of the father he just killed takes up arms against the US. We use terrorism as an excuse to be there. It's a tactic that never ends. It's like fighting the bogeyman. He's here. No...he's there. But, pom-pom shaking putzes like you get all puffy because you're easily manipulated like someone with their 2 fingers up your nostrils as they drag you around. Your jingoism is repulsive.
3 weeks ago, you never even heard of Soleimani. Now you believe the same clandestine services that lied about gas attacks in Douma, Syria. Afghanistan has been 1 huge lie. You still believe in WMD's in Iraq? They lied there too. They lied about incubators being unplugged in Kuwait before that. But, you still believe in Santa, Easter Bunny and unicorns. How many times must someone piss on your leg before you realize it's not raining out?
Where was the terrorist hiding in this picture?
Go eat your cheese, little rat!
You're about as anti-American as they come. You're endorsing wholesale murder, the bankrupting of this country and climate change. So bloody ignorant.
Living in your head and it ain't costing me a dime. LoL.
Should MLK (if he were still alive) and Lawrence Wilkerson move to Jalalabad as well?
You tell me effendi. You must have good internet there in your cave. Please leave the goats alone.
What questions? The idiotic abstract ones you pose. As you spew your verbal diarrhea our assets are getting rid of terrorists that could hurt us.You are an assclown. Why don't you go live with your brethren in Damascus, Tehran, Abbottabad or some other shithole? Otherwise, go find a goat to stalk. And yes, I'm still happy Solemani is dead.
Too difficult for you, I guess. They're the ones with squiggly marks after the sentences, beeyotch.
You do know that the largest amount of terrorist acts in the world are conducted by Sunnis, right? Iran is Shia. You do know that Soleimani co-managed the fight against the Taliban in Afghanistan with General Tommy Franks, right? He helped defeat AQ and IS in Iraq and Syria while your guy Obama banked them via Saudi Arabia. You do know that the "imminent attacks" were a lie, right?
Isn't it terroristic when Washington logistically assists the Saudi genocide of Yemen?
Isn't it terroristic when Washington bombs Iraq into oblivion and takes over the country?
Isn't it terroristic when Washington invades and bombs Syria under false pretenses?
Isn't it terroristic when we assist Israel in their air, sea and land blockade of Gaza?
Wasn't it terroristic when Clinton's sanctions killed 576,000 women and children in Iraq?
Wasn't it terroristic when Reagan had Iraq attack Iran and gave Saddam chemical weapons with 1 million perishing?
Isn't it terroristic when our sanctions in Venezuela killed over 40,000 people?
Do you have any idea of how the concept of a reaction for every action works?
How is Iran a threat to us? Haven't we been over there meddling in their affairs since '53?
Didn't the illegal killing off Soleimani unite a divided Iraq against the US?
Do you think Russia and China will sit idle and allow Washington to take control of the Caspian Sea? Do you think they find that provocative?
With all the killings our generals have ordered on soil 6,000 miles from our country, are they terrorists also?
Why did I ask you about MLK? Because he said the greatest purveyor of violence in the world was his own government. This was obviously before our endless wars in the ME.
How do I say this politely? YOU"RE A EFFING MORON! See how that works.
You, in a miraculous state of befuddlement, think this mythical narrative of terrorism, can be won. What if it wasn't meant to be won? What if it was won, they would have zero excuse to further Sheldon Adelson and Netanyahu's agenda for a Greater Israel.
Go hide under your bed you little pussy. Terrorists are coming to get you.
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We killed one million people in Iraq based on a pack of lies. End of neocon argument
Loser still can't answer questions. You're an empty suit. You don't have a script in front of you. Other than your insults and name calling, you've added zero value to the discussion. Should I highlight the squiggly things so they will be easy to identify? But, I have you figured out. You will make some smarmy reply and tell me how stupid I am as a defense mechanism. To that I say, STFU you little lab rat. You have all the knowledge of a ball of lint.
Idiot, I know this is tough to comprehend for you, but most of the users on this thread think Iran is a messed up crap hole. Comprende?
Enjoy this:
In 2007, the United States State Department placed Iran as a "Tier 2" in its annual Trafficking in Persons reports, stating that "it does not fully comply with the minimum standards for the elimination of trafficking but is making significant efforts to do so".[24] In 2010, U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton downgraded Iran to "Tier 3", noting that the country makes no significant effort to solve trafficking problems, mainly in relation to prostitution and forced labor.[25]
Maybe the general liked trafficking women. Oh well, he's pig compost now.
In 2007, the United States State Department placed Iran as a "Tier 2" in its annual Trafficking in Persons reports, stating that "it does not fully comply with the minimum standards for the elimination of trafficking but is making significant efforts to do so".[24] In 2010, U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton downgraded Iran to "Tier 3", noting that the country makes no significant effort to solve trafficking problems, mainly in relation to prostitution and forced labor.[25]
Maybe the general liked trafficking women. Oh well, he's pig compost now.
When are we going into Saudi Arabia then? That bastion of human rights.
Enjoy this:
https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/18328
https://www.mintpressnews.com/hidde...-revealed-trump-motives-iraq-china-oil/264155
After the feed was cut, MPs who were present wrote down Abdul-Mahdi’s remarks, which were then given to the Arabic news outlet Ida’at. Per that transcript, Abdul-Mahdi stated that:
"The Americans are the ones who destroyed the country and wreaked havoc on it. They have refused to finish building the electrical system and infrastructure projects. They have bargained for the reconstruction of Iraq in exchange for Iraq giving up 50% of oil imports. So, I refused and decided to go to China and concluded an important and strategic agreement with it. Today, Trump is trying to cancel this important agreement.”
Not a single group linked to Iran or supported by Iran is identified. Look at the this table from the statistical annex:
No Hezbollah and no Hamas. If a country is going to "sponsor" terrorism then we should expect to see terrorist attacks. The attacks that are taking place are predominantly from Sunni affiliated groups that have ties to Saudi Arabia, not Iran.
No Hezbollah and no Hamas. If a country is going to "sponsor" terrorism then we should expect to see terrorist attacks. The attacks that are taking place are predominantly from Sunni affiliated groups that have ties to Saudi Arabia, not Iran.
BECAUSE it tells you this was premeditated from the jump, you sphincter-sniffing cum junkie. I know you didn't go through all of that in less than 3 minutes. Maybe that's why you're dumber than a box of rocks. Also noted is that you continue to deflect and dodge questions. Thanks for playing, Patches O'Houlihan!
Not a single group linked to Iran or supported by Iran is identified. Look at the this table from the statistical annex:
No Hezbollah and no Hamas. If a country is going to "sponsor" terrorism then we should expect to see terrorist attacks. The attacks that are taking place are predominantly from Sunni affiliated groups that have ties to Saudi Arabia, not Iran.
Enjoy Ayatollah. Hey how's Solemani doing? I bet he's stinking!
https://web.archive.org/web/20170721054054/https://www.state.gov/j/ct/rls/crt/2016/272235.htm
I did Satan.
The United States is upset with Iran because it has thwarted the U.S. covert action in Syria. It was the United States, along with the U.K., Saudi Arabia and Turkey, that helped ignite and escalate the civil war in Syria. Why? The Saudis and the Israelis were growing increasingly concerned in 2011 about Iran's spreading influence in the region. And what enabled Iran to do that? We did. When the United States removed Saddam Hussein and destroyed the Baathist movement in Iraq, the Bush Administration thought it was a dandy idea to install Iraqi Shia in positions of leadership. Not one of the key policymakers on the U.S. side of the equation expressed any qualms about the fact that these Iraqi politicians and military personnel had longstanding relationships with Iran, which included financial support.
Iran also had a longstanding relationship with Syria. Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton decided that if we could eliminate Bashir Assad, the Syrian leader, then we would weaken Iran. This was a policy that many Republicans, most notably John McCain and Lindsey Graham, supported. But the scheme to weaken Iran backfired. Iran, along with Russia, came to the aid of the Government of Syria in full blown counter-insurgency campaign. Iran, the Russians and the Syrian Government were fighting radical Sunni islamists, many of whom were funded by the Western alliance.
Iran's military support for the Government of Syria clearly rankles U.S. policymakers, but it is not “terrorism.” It is pure counter insurgency.
I particularly enjoyed this one as well.
https://www.state.gov/reports/country-reports-on-terrorism-2018
You notice what is absent? A list of specific attacks that caused actual casualties. Plans and plots are not the same as actions. If Iran's malevolent influence was so powerful, we should be able to point to specific attacks and specific casualties. But you will not find those facts in the U.S. State Department report because they do not exist.
In 2016 there were seven terrorist attacks that caused at least 100 casualties. All were attributed to ISIL aka the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant. Not one was linked to Iran or any group receiving financial support from Iran. There were a total of 1753 terrorist attacks and at least 15,993 deaths during 2016.
Here is the monthly breakdown for 2016:
January—105 terrorist attacks that caused the deaths of at least 1,351 people. There were no attacks linked to Kata’ib Hizballah, Hamas or Hezbollah. The seven attacks in Israel that left 7 dead were ascribed to a “Palestinian” lone-wolf.
February—72 attacks that left 1075 dead. There were no attacks linked to Kata’ib Hizballah, Hamas or Hezbollah. There were seven attacks and 3 dead attributed to “lone-wolf” Palestinians.
March—112 attacks leaving at least 778 dead. There were no attacks linked to Kata’ib Hizballah, Hamas or Hezbollah. There were 13 attacks in Israel identified as “lone-wolf” Palestinian. No significant Israeli casualties.
April—152 attacks that caused at least 1012 fatalities. There were no attacks linked to Kata’ib Hizballah, Hamas or Hezbollah.
May—202 attacks leaving at least 1600 dead. There were no attacks linked to Kata’ib Hizballah, Hamas or Hezbollah.
June—187 attacks and at least 1693 fatalities. There were no attacks linked to Kata’ib Hizballah, Hamas or Hezbollah.
July—187 attacks with at least 1684 deaths. There were no attacks linked to Kata’ib Hizballah, Hamas or Hezbollah.
August—139 terrorist attacks resulting in 1224 dead. There were no attacks linked to Kata’ib Hizballah, Hamas or Hezbollah.
September—128 terrorist attacks, which caused at least 849 fatalities. There were no attacks linked to Kata’ib Hizballah, Hamas or Hezbollah.
October—166 terrorist attacks and at least 2139 deaths. There were no attacks linked to Kata’ib Hizballah, Hamas or Hezbollah.
November—153 terrorist attacks that killed at least 1446. There were no attacks linked to Kata’ib Hizballah, Hamas or Hezbollah.
December—147 terrorist attacks, which resulted in at least 930 deaths. There were no attacks linked to Kata’ib Hizballah, Hamas or Hezbollah.
The U.S. State Department continues to insist that Iran is providing indirect support to Al Qaeda. That is pure nonsense. Iran is fighting and killing Al Qaeda forces inside Syria. They have no ideological affinity with Al Qaeda.
https://turcopolier.typepad.com/sic...an-and-terrorism-by-larry-c-johnson.html#more
Iran is self disintegrating man. Besides you, the sane people there don't want to live in the 1400s. They will overthrow the idiots who run that shit show. Even your boy Assad is hiding behind Putin's butthole. Your other buddy Qa daffi duck got a knife literally up his rectum. Just a matter of time chief. And your general is still in a wooden box stinking up the joint. And come Monday am, I'll buy some more Raytheon stock.
