Is Urban Meyer overrated as a coach? NFL record 3 of the top 10 picks, 4 out of top 16.
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Urban essentially lost his division with literally an NFL team. Yeah, great coach. Unbelievable coach actually.
Relax its still laughable that OP suggest he's over rated. Guy has Won every where he's been at and has 3 national titles and multiple conference titles In the SEC and Big 10. Besides nick Saban name a coach right now with a better resume.
We went undefeated this season w ZERO drafted players so far. What's that's say bout Ferentz. Imagine if we had ALL Urbans players. So now does URBAN look as Godly as you think?
Weak schedule?
Urban is not the greatest coach, but he surrounds himself with a quality staff. Plus he is a great recruiter.
I have many friends that are Florida fans, most didnt like Urban and thought he was a pompous prick. He didnt leave Florida due to health issues, he left because he knew the talent level was about to drop off and didnt want a blemish on his career.
Exactly, he knows he can't win w/o top recruits. Not the coach, real developer, mentor & he doesn't have patience of dantonio or KF. OVER RATED!!!!
Like coach Cal in basketball, good recruiter ok coach.
I agree, they choked one game and it cost them...need an 8 team playoff. I think OSU was the best team in the country last year.
One has to agree Meyer is a good coach and recruiter. A coach would have to be some kind of dunce if he could not get top,top talent to come into Ohio State. They live almost within a stone's throw from Columbus. One wonders how he would fare if he were coaching at Iowa. Recruiting would be a different situation.
I had fun with a good friend and OSU nut. I told him that with that many top draft selections and not being able to get to the B!G championship game is a huge embarrassment worthy of dismissal by the President and/or the AD at OSU.
I had fun with a good friend and OSU nut. I told him that with that many top draft selections and not being able to get to the B!G championship game is a huge embarrassment worthy of dismissal by the President and/or the AD at OSU.
Are they just Florida fans or Florida fans close to the program that get their information from a source other than message boards and rumors? Big difference.
You don't have to believe it, but he really did have health issues. I mentioned it earlier in this thread, the stress and anxiety of the job kicked his butt and took a toll on him. Some of it was his own fault with the pressure he put on himself. Some of it was from the outside world and huge expectations. It got to the point when just winning a game wasnt enough.
I bleed black and gold and graduated from Iowa, but through my job I've met Urban a few times and know a few of his former players and one former coach. Not sure or not if he's a prick, but he is very honest and smug. His players really like him. Personally, I prefer the personality of a guy like Ferentz or Pat Fitzgerald, who are both very humble, but I havent met anyone who actually knows Urban say he's a prick.
You can't be this dense...really you can't.
It's one game they lost. They didn't go like 8-4
They were bad vs MSU. But no, he's a great coach. Starting Jones over Barrett didn't make a lot of sense with the way he likes to run his offense. That said, he has 3 national titles. The only active college coach with more is Nick Saban.
These are fans close to the program. Many Florida fans really dont like Urban.
If you remember, during the SEC title game, they interrupted the game with breaking news of Urban's health issues and said he was stepping down at Florida. This was a douche bag move, he could have waiting for the season to end to announce this. Urban wanted the spotlight and that took away from the game. Dude is a pompous prick!
If you put Meyer or Saban at Iowa, They are still good coaches, Are they considered elite coaches, I have my doubts, It's about getting players, Saban wasn't a world beater at MSU, He didn't become the almighty until he landed jobs in the most fertile recruiting grounds in the country, Not saying Meyer or Saban aren't good coaches, But if you wan't to be an elite program, You have to get elite talent, Some places have a far easier row to hoe to get that talent than others.
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Ha ha. As far as whether Meyer is overrated as a coach or not, I'll let the stupidity of that comment stand for itself.
As to whether Meyer is a prick or not? As a previous poster stated probably not to his freinds, family, and those with whom he is close. To outsiders, maybe. It seems that is a very consistent trait with those who are the elite within their occupation. Not just successful, but defined as the top 1-5%. Whether we're talking about sports, business, politics, law, medicine, or any other discipline- the elite tend to single minded in focus, little patience for those who don't share a like mindedness, and arrogant.
But hey, if they ever start giving an award for "The Nicest Guy in Coaching", or placing teams in the playoffs for a coach's popularity in the polls among opposing fans, then coaches like Meyer could be in trouble.
As to whether Meyer is a prick or not? As a previous poster stated probably not to his freinds, family, and those with whom he is close. To outsiders, maybe. It seems that is a very consistent trait with those who are the elite within their occupation. Not just successful, but defined as the top 1-5%. Whether we're talking about sports, business, politics, law, medicine, or any other discipline- the elite tend to single minded in focus, little patience for those who don't share a like mindedness, and arrogant.
But hey, if they ever start giving an award for "The Nicest Guy in Coaching", or placing teams in the playoffs for a coach's popularity in the polls among opposing fans, then coaches like Meyer could be in trouble.
So, I take it that in this context, the definition of a "coach" is an X and O guy. Well, UM is not a "coach", he is the Head Coach of one of the top 2 or 3 football programs in the nation. He is the CEO of an incredible football powerhouse.
Now, who knows how he would do if he became the d-coordinator at Indiana? And, who cares? The guy knows how to run a football program.
There is no question that he is one of the best in the country as a Head Coach, referring to the entire job description.
Now, who knows how he would do if he became the d-coordinator at Indiana? And, who cares? The guy knows how to run a football program.
There is no question that he is one of the best in the country as a Head Coach, referring to the entire job description.
An example of the expectations of Iowaaah fans (the thread was regarding ISU recruiting)...
Posted on 8/4/2011, "...Going 3-9 every year isnt going to get recruits to Lames. No, going 7-5 and going to a bowl will help. They got it backwards at ISU."
Just going to a bowl game is good enough for Iowaaah fans. 6 wins and they're satisfied.
I remember, Peerles got fired for lack of Institutional control IIRC grade tampering, No heavy punishment from NCAA as far as Saban's tenure, Lost scholarships his first year, Still bowl and TV eligible. So I don't now that he really walked into a tougher job than KF did when he took over for Hayden, I would say the cupboard was a tad better stocked at MSU. Saban did OK at MSU, He wasn't exactly on his way to the HOF there.
Heaviest punishment handed to a B10 member since the Illinois basketball scandal..They were paying recruits along with the academic fraud. They were placed on probation for 4 years. Lost 9 scholarships. Everything they did academically was monitored by the NCAA for a few years..It was an ugly time for the MSU program..Under the sanctions, I'd say he did a pretty good job there.
Was the game in Columbus? Was MSU's best qb ever playing? Sounds like an easy win for Urban. Derp!
omg you are that dense!
So Peyton should have never lost a home game, neither should have tebow, nor Luck, nor Elway...
urban doesn't really have to recruit - OSU is OSU. Top players want to go there just like Alabama.
True, if a coach was interested in getting most of the top recruits out of Ohio, and counted on its reputation and tradition to bring in prospects from the conference footprint, they would probably get a top 20 class. But if you are interested in Getting the top prospects at each position, players who are being recruited by Alabama, LSU, Florida State, Clemson, Notre Dame, Texas, and USC- shooting for a top 1-5 class, then you do have to work.
Way to pull out a post from an Iowa fan 5 years and sum up the whole fan base by it. You've been saving this post since 2011 and now you finally played it and failed miserably.
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