ISU on rivalry week.

[Lone Clone]

Who on God's green Earth doesn't think Rhoads is on the hot seat this season?

I have seen considerable speculation that if he doesn't beat UNI, he won't be the head coach for Iowa. While I highly doubt that, it illustrates the reality of the situation and the fact people are aware of it. The ISU message board I patronize has been full of speculation all summer about a successor.

Personally, I suspect that if the Cyclones don't open the season 4-0, you can bet the farm he won't be the coach next year.

 

[Tclone99]

Congrats! Maybe this year you can actually win one against your own conference !!

Thanks. I think you missed my point though.

 

[Cougar63]

Point A: You point out that Rhodes is on the hotseat, thereby proving that an Iowa fan doesn't follow your team

Point B: You state that Hawkeyes fans claim they don't follow your team

Point C: You state Hawkeyes fans follow your team.

Do Hawkeyes fans follow your team, but do it poorly, or do they not follow your team. If they do it poorly, isn't that an example of not following your team? Ergo, you proved yourself wrong.

 

[Tclone99]

Point A: You point out that Rhodes is on the hotseat, thereby proving that an Iowa fan doesn't follow your team

Point B: You state that Hawkeyes fans claim they don't follow your team

Point C: You state Hawkeyes fans follow your team.

Do Hawkeyes fans follow your team, but do it poorly, or do they not follow your team. If they do it poorly, isn't that an example of not following your team? Ergo, you proved yourself wrong.

I said they CLAIM to know what's going on with ISU's team while also saying that ISU is so insignificant that it is not worth paying attention to. The fact that hawkcub was wrong about his claim doesn't change the fact that he made a statement so as to make one believe that he was paying enough attention so as to be aware of a situation within the ISU football program.

Paul Rhoads is planted firmly on the proverbial hot seat. He may be fired before seasons end with Mangino being well-equipped to take over on a temporary basis.

 

[89and91]

I said they CLAIM to know what's going on with ISU's team while also saying that ISU is so insignificant that it is not worth paying attention to. The fact that hawkcub was wrong about his claim doesn't change the fact that he made a statement so as to make one believe that he was paying enough attention so as to be aware of a situation within the ISU football program.

Paul Rhoads is planted firmly on the proverbial hot seat. He may be fired before seasons end with Mangino being well-equipped to take over on a temporary basis.

Beat Iowa and keep your job forever. Or was it the Toledo win that kept Rhodes at isu. We won't laugh really.

 

[cidsports]

We seem to find a way to lose to ISU under Ferentz. I was wondering if the results would be different at the end of the season.

The 1981 and 2002 Iowa Hawkeyes each fell against Iowa State.

 

[MITCH492]

Iowa beats ISU, goes 6-6 with no blow outs and KF keeps his job, but he is on the hot seat.

 

[Lone Clone]

The 1981 and 2002 Iowa Hawkeyes each fell against Iowa State.

Yes. And in 2001 when the game was moved to the end of the season, ISU won.....and Hawk fans said that if it had been played earlier in the year, Iowa would have won.

Having said that, I think generally speaking, year-in and year-out, playing early has been an advantage for ISU more often than not, simply because ISU seldom has as much quality depth as Iowa.

 

[GrayHawk1957]

Didn't help in 2001

I was at that game. If only Grant Steen treated the 4th quarter pick like "A newborn in a hailstorm" like he did two years later.
Seriously though, I think it would be cool. Along the lines of South Carloina - Clemson, Florida - Florida State and Georgia - Georgia Tech. Conference seasons are over, now it's time for some State Pride!

 

[Lone Clone]

I was at that game. If only Grant Steen treated the 4th quarter pick like "A newborn in a hailstorm" like he did two years later.
Seriously though, I think it would be cool. Along the lines of South Carloina - Clemson, Florida - Florida State and Georgia - Georgia Tech. Conference seasons are over, now it's time for some State Pride!

The ISU receiver made a hell of a play stripping the ball. But you're right, that could have made a big difference if he'd held on to it. Those were both decent teams.

Kinda a sore spot for me, thanks to the Big Ten's bowl lineup being so much better than the Big 12's. ISU was 7-5 and beat Iowa, which was 6-6. Finished higher in its conference. Went to Shreveport and played Alabama, while Iowa went to the Alamo Bowl against Texas Tech.

 

[5Fan5]

The ISU receiver made a hell of a play stripping the ball. But you're right, that could have made a big difference if he'd held on to it. Those were both decent teams.

Kinda a sore spot for me, thanks to the Big Ten's bowl lineup being so much better than the Big 12's. ISU was 7-5 and beat Iowa, which was 6-6. Finished higher in its conference. Went to Shreveport and played Alabama, while Iowa went to the Alamo Bowl against Texas Tech.

Next time, you just may want to check your 'facts' prior to posting. Iowa was not 6-6.

Furthermore, finishing "higher in its conference" really has no bearing on the matter at hand. isu did not beat anyone with even the slightest of a pulse in the big xii while suffering at least a couple of real trouncings along the way. Oh, the two other non-conference opponents were UNI and a one-win Ohio U. team. The worse defeat Iowa had that season was by a total of nine points to a ranked Purdue team on the road. Bottom line, Iowa deserved to be in a better bowl and proved it by beating another seven win team from the big xii.

 

[GrayHawk1957]

The ISU receiver made a hell of a play stripping the ball. But you're right, that could have made a big difference if he'd held on to it. Those were both decent teams.

Kinda a sore spot for me, thanks to the Big Ten's bowl lineup being so much better than the Big 12's. ISU was 7-5 and beat Iowa, which was 6-6. Finished higher in its conference. Went to Shreveport and played Alabama, while Iowa went to the Alamo Bowl against Texas Tech.

Hello Lone Clone,
Back then they only played 11 regular season games. Iowa finished 6-5 with the loss to the Cyclones, then beat Texas Tech to finish 7-5. I emember some Big XII friends at work echoing your statement about the conference bowl tie-ins. FWIW, I was rooting for Iowa State against Alabama. What a heartbreaker!

 

[ichawk24]

Ah, the Mangino love affair rears its ugly head. Remember all of last summer, when ISU fans were talking up Mangino as the greatest offensive mind ever?

TWO wins.

 

[DarkThunder#61]

We could be quibbling over definition of "really good" and "really bad." The timing of the game is crucial in two of those years, as well, because Donnie Duncan's teams were poorly conditioned and undisciplined, leading them to discombobulate as the season concluded.

1981: After 7 weeks of the season, ISU was ranked 6th in the nation by Sports Illustrated (10th by UPI, 11th by AP), so I don't consider that a really bad Cyclone team, even though it collapsed and lost its last four games. Similar in many ways to 2002.

You have a better argument for '82, but Iowa wasn't that good and ISU wasn't that bad, especially early in the season. Cyclones were favored in the game, IIRC. ISU had lost by 2 points at Tennessee, and flirted with the rankings the first two-thirds of the season before (again) losing the last four.

Neither of those games was as close as the score indicated. In '81, Iowa scored on the last play of the game against ISU reserves. In '82, Iowa scored on a pick-six on the first series and never threatened again; Hawks never crossed midfield on offense.

So you're saying Iowa should've played those two games at the end of the season and they would've won.....alright gotcha.

Iowa > Iowa State

 

[cidsports]

Yes. And in 2001 when the game was moved to the end of the season, ISU won.....and Hawk fans said that if it had been played earlier in the year, Iowa would have won.

Having said that, I think generally speaking, year-in and year-out, playing early has been an advantage for ISU more often than not, simply because ISU seldom has as much quality depth as Iowa.

The 1998 game was clearly all Iowa State. Iowa has had there share of outstanding wins, such as 2008 and 2009.

The 2002 game, the 2011 and 2013 games were very competitive.

Iowa State brings there A game to the series, much of the time. Yes, during a 15 game period, under Hayden Fry, the series was mostly one sided.

It flipped in 1998, the other way.

peace

 

[takai]

With Iowa State, you have to throw everything out the window. I've found this rivalry to be completely unpredictable. I'd love to see Iowa go in and trounce State after they come off a loss to UNI. But at the same time I could see the game be a giant struggle until the end with ISU taking it at the last second on pure luck.

It all depends if Bethard comes to play. If he does, I see a 27-10 win.

 

[Lone Clone]

So you're saying Iowa should've played those two games at the end of the season and they would've won.....alright gotcha.

Iowa > Iowa State

Uh......yes, basically, that's my opinion.

 

[Lone Clone]

Next time, you just may want to check your 'facts' prior to posting. Iowa was not 6-6.

Furthermore, finishing "higher in its conference" really has no bearing on the matter at hand. isu did not beat anyone with even the slightest of a pulse in the big xii while suffering at least a couple of real trouncings along the way. Oh, the two other non-conference opponents were UNI and a one-win Ohio U. team. The worse defeat Iowa had that season was by a total of nine points to a ranked Purdue team on the road. Bottom line, Iowa deserved to be in a better bowl and proved it by beating another seven win team from the big xii.

Sigh. Yes, I erred. I recalled both teams having the same record and 6 wins entering the game, so I unthinkingly assumed they were both 6-5, when in fact they were both 6-4. Doesn't change my point in the slightest. As you probably realize. Just as you probably realize the Big Ten had a bette bowl lineup than the Big XII.

The larger point is that we know which team was better, because they played each other. At the end of the season, which was a huge deal to Hawkeye fans at the time.

 

[Lone Clone]

Hello Lone Clone,
Back then they only played 11 regular season games. Iowa finished 6-5 with the loss to the Cyclones, then beat Texas Tech to finish 7-5. I emember some Big XII friends at work echoing your statement about the conference bowl tie-ins. FWIW, I was rooting for Iowa State against Alabama. What a heartbreaker!

Alabama fans we talked to after the game volunteered the opinion that the field goal was good. Such is life. Perhaps even worse, the concession stand in our section ran out of beer in the second quarter. So I was in a pretty foul mood already, anyway.

 

[89and91]

Alabama fans we talked to after the game volunteered the opinion that the field goal was good. Such is life. Perhaps even worse, the concession stand in our section ran out of beer in the second quarter. So I was in a pretty foul mood already, anyway.

Yep isu doesn't lose football or basketball games unless it is the refs fault.

Look out Pollard will start screaming again "it's not fair". Poor crybaby.

 

[J_Heater]

Since winning is the most important statistic, and since I doubt the majority of those teams named above were the favorite probably less than 75% of the time....

I don't think coaches are playing to keep Vegas happy. Nice try tho

My post wasn't to deflect from Iowa negativity or to prove Iowa was as good as anyone on that list.

It was to show the poster that gambling on 18-22 year old kids is a 50/50 guess even if you think you know what you are doing

Nice try though.

 

[swagsurfer02]

My post wasn't to deflect from Iowa negativity or to prove Iowa was as good as anyone on that list.

It was to show the poster that gambling on 18-22 year old kids is a 50/50 guess even if you think you know what you are doing

Nice try though.

18-22 year olds doesn't matter. There is no sure bet when it come to gambling unless you are the person taking the dive.

There's always a risk

 

[thewop]

We seem to find a way to lose to ISU under Ferentz. I was wondering if the results would be different at the end of the season.

My initial reaction is that yes, we'd win much more frequently at the end of the year. But given that it would then be ISU's "bowl game" every year, after we'd just come off of another B1G season and probable bowl eligibility, I'm not so sure this works in our favor.

We just need to stay focused and show up for the game against ISU. No matter when it is.

 

[hexumhawk]

I agree. For as much as KF gets ripped on for his contract and rightfully so. Look at what Rhoads has accomplished since getting a 10 yr extension since beating okie st. State of Iowa may have 2 of the worst contract extensions in all of college football.

One word; expectations. You can be 2-10 or 3-9 at ISU and it doesn't really matter.

 

[iahawkeyes17]

Alabama fans we talked to after the game volunteered the opinion that the field goal was good. Such is life. Perhaps even worse, the concession stand in our section ran out of beer in the second quarter. So I was in a pretty foul mood already, anyway.

I do remember the controversy of fg going over the upright. Ironically ISU got the benefit of the doubt when they had a fg that was no good in their upset of okie st when late in the game when guy put one over the top. To this day I'm sure all OSU fans will tell you it was good and ISU fans say the call was correct. But Those calls are so tough to over turn original call on the field.

 

[Lone Clone]

I do remember the controversy of fg going over the upright. Ironically ISU got the benefit of the doubt when they had a fg that was no good in their upset of okie st when late in the game when guy put one over the top. To this day I'm sure all OSU fans will tell you it was good and ISU fans say the call was correct. But Those calls are so tough to over turn original call on the field.

I couldn't see it from where I was sitting, and I think the video from the end zone is inconclusive. Same for the Okie State game. We beat Kansas State back in the pre-Snyder years when a FG by the Wildcats was ruled no good, and I was sitting in the end zone for that one, and it sure as hell looked good to me. Sometimes you get the benefit of those calls, sometimes you don't. Usually the favored team gets the calls, but not always.

I honestly was more upset about running out of beer.

 

[Psyclone]

The ISU receiver made a hell of a play stripping the ball. But you're right, that could have made a big difference if he'd held on to it. Those were both decent teams.

Kinda a sore spot for me, thanks to the Big Ten's bowl lineup being so much better than the Big 12's. ISU was 7-5 and beat Iowa, which was 6-6. Finished higher in its conference. Went to Shreveport and played Alabama, while Iowa went to the Alamo Bowl against Texas Tech.

Was that the year ISU was pegged for the Alamo Bowl but when Iowa became eligible they overlooked better Big 10 teams to pick Iowa because of their fan support? That eliminated ISU from consideration because they didn't want a rematch and a game with little national appeal.

Edit: I actually think it was not Iowa becoming eligible, but it was the outcome of some other Big 10 games that left the bowl with teams that don't travel well so Iowa got elevated. I didn't have a problem with that, except that it knocked ISU out of that bowl.

 

[Psyclone]

I do remember the controversy of fg going over the upright. Ironically ISU got the benefit of the doubt when they had a fg that was no good in their upset of okie st when late in the game when guy put one over the top. To this day I'm sure all OSU fans will tell you it was good and ISU fans say the call was correct. But Those calls are so tough to over turn original call on the field.

I was there and saw the replay on TV many times. And to this day I am one Cyclone fan that believes the guy that made the call was in the best position to make that call. Same for Okie State, but I didn't realize that was controversial. There is a call against Iowa that fans think was wrong, but I think they got it right on the field. I don't want to stir controversy so I won't name the call.

The calls I refer to, the refs are in the best position to make the call. Camera angles can fool the viewers. The calls that upset me are inconsistent judgement calls. TCU got screwed against Baylor last year with 3 inconsistent calls at the end of that game. Any one of them could have changed the outcome. I had no skin in that game and didn't care who won, but felt it was a travesty to ruin a great football game with bad calls at the end like that.

 

[Lone Clone]

I was there and saw the replay on TV many times. And to this day I am one Cyclone fan that believes the guy that made the call was in the best position to make that call. Same for Okie State, but I didn't realize that was controversial. There is a call against Iowa that fans think was wrong, but I think they got it right on the field. I don't want to stir controversy so I won't name the call.

The calls I refer to, the refs are in the best position to make the call. Camera angles can fool the viewers. The calls that upset me are inconsistent judgement calls. TCU got screwed against Baylor last year with 3 inconsistent calls at the end of that game. Any one of them could have changed the outcome. I had no skin in that game and didn't care who won, but felt it was a travesty to ruin a great football game with bad calls at the end like that.

I am much less likely to criticize a judgment call if the official is in the right position. What absolutely slays me are the times when one of the zebras will come out of nowhere, overrule the guy on the play and make the wrong call. The classic example was Woody Mayfield's traveling call on Sam Hill at the end of the Big 8 tournament championship game against Kansas in '86. But a close second would be the blarge call in the Elite Eight game in '00.

In football, there was a game against Kansas State once where twice, not just once, an official ran from clear across the field to overrule a call made by the ref who was right on the play, and in both cases it cost ISU possession. A KSU player fumble, an ISU player grabbed the ball and ran for a TD, and the douche who was farthest from the play overruled it.

 

[tazclone]

Never understood why PR is not on the hot seat.

He is

 

[Kinky F]

Iowa State was terrible at the beginning of the year before their devastating injuries. Our coach handed them a win like has happened many times before. Iowa States schedule and conference is a joke.

Did you really just say ISU's schedule is a joke? Please compare and comment on Iowa's schedule.

 

[iahawkeyes17]

Did you really just say ISU's schedule is a joke? Please compare and comment on Iowa's schedule.

You'll see most Iowa fans here not claiming iowas schedule is tough. But besides Baylor and TCU lot of teams in big 12 had a down year like OU and OSU. Texas hasn't been the same elite team since McCoy lead them to title game in 09'. KState and wvu middle of the pack. Plus it really showed by a very poor showing in the bowl games, minus TCU who looked like a top 5 team.

Guess lot of people here sometimes tired of hearing how difficult ISU schedule is, maybe over playing it sometimes. More difficult than Iowa yes give you that. But things start evening out next yr when big 10 goes to 9 conf games. Personally when big 12 made that switch thought it would really hurt ISU. One less non conf game where you can get a W plus unlike big 12 north days don't miss out on the OU and Texas every 2 years. Makes winnings Iowa game more imprortant with 9 conf games to gain bowl eligibility.

 

[Lone Clone]

You'll see most Iowa fans here not claiming iowas schedule is tough. But besides Baylor and TCU lot of teams in big 12 had a down year like OU and OSU. Texas hasn't been the same elite team since McCoy lead them to title game in 09'. KState and wvu middle of the pack. Plus it really showed by a very poor showing in the bowl games, minus TCU who looked like a top 5 team.

Guess lot of people here sometimes tired of hearing how difficult ISU schedule is, maybe over playing it sometimes. More difficult than Iowa yes give you that. But things start evening out next yr when big 10 goes to 9 conf games. Personally when big 12 made that switch thought it would really hurt ISU. One less non conf game where you can get a W plus unlike big 12 north days don't miss out on the OU and Texas every 2 years. Makes winnings Iowa game more imprortant with 9 conf games to gain bowl eligibility.

I think it is fairly meaningless to make preseason ratings of either conferences or teams. It's just guesswork based on the previous year.

The thing that makes ISU's schedule difficult is the scarcity of bad teams. Look at the non-conference schedule, for instance. The three non-conference games are among the 4 games on the schedule most observers believe are most winnable.....yet there is a road game against a decent MAC team and home games against a BiG team and one of the country's best FCS teams.

 

[tazclone]

We seem to find a way to lose to ISU under Ferentz. I was wondering if the results would be different at the end of the season.

Yes, becaus eIowa ALWAYS gets better as the season goes along
iowa's great "we get better as the season goes on" excuse....
2014-lose four of their last five
2013- lost 2 of their last five. Wins over crappy Purdie/michigan teams
2012-lost six straight to finish the season
2011-lost four of their last six
2010-lost three of their last five including a loss to NW and a 3-9 Minny team
2009-won three of their last five with two coming against bad Indiana and Minny. The 12-0 win over Minny was dominating
2008-Wow....they actually finished strong
2007-lost two out of last five but did manage to beat NW and Minny...
2006-lost their last four games, lost their last 6 out of 7
2005- lost three out of their last five including a loss to powerhouse Minny.

Yep, iowa gets much, much, much better as the season goes on and if only they played iSu later they would dominate

 

[89and91]

Yes, becaus eIowa ALWAYS gets better as the season goes along
iowa's great "we get better as the season goes on" excuse....
2014-lose four of their last five
2013- lost 2 of their last five. Wins over crappy Purdie/michigan teams
2012-lost six straight to finish the season
2011-lost four of their last six
2010-lost three of their last five including a loss to NW and a 3-9 Minny team
2009-won three of their last five with two coming against bad Indiana and Minny. The 12-0 win over Minny was dominating
2008-Wow....they actually finished strong
2007-lost two out of last five but did manage to beat NW and Minny...
2006-lost their last four games, lost their last 6 out of 7
2005- lost three out of their last five including a loss to powerhouse Minny.

Yep, iowa gets much, much, much better as the season goes on and if only they played iSu later they would dominate

Yep isu only loses games because of their bogus SOS. When exactly will SOS equate to Texas Ten teams having the post season results that match their bogus SOS?

Another clone fan myth BUSTED.

 

[5Fan5]

Yes, becaus eIowa ALWAYS gets better as the season goes along
iowa's great "we get better as the season goes on" excuse....
2014-lose four of their last five
2013- lost 2 of their last five. Wins over crappy Purdie/michigan teams
2012-lost six straight to finish the season
2011-lost four of their last six
2010-lost three of their last five including a loss to NW and a 3-9 Minny team
2009-won three of their last five with two coming against bad Indiana and Minny. The 12-0 win over Minny was dominating
2008-Wow....they actually finished strong
2007-lost two out of last five but did manage to beat NW and Minny...
2006-lost their last four games, lost their last 6 out of 7
2005- lost three out of their last five including a loss to powerhouse Minny.

Yep, iowa gets much, much, much better as the season goes on and if only they played iSu later they would dominate

Great job of painting not even half a picture here. Let's take a little closer look to discern the reality.

2014 - Iowa actually was two of five in wins at the end of the regular season. The very worst opponent during that stretch was five-win Northwestern, but also included eventual eleven-win Wisconsin and nine-win Nebraska. [Iowa lost by three to isu.]
2013 - Two of the four losses that you mention were to nationally ranked Ohio State and Wisconsin; the two wins were against Michigan and at Nebraska. [Iowa beat isu 27-21.]
2012 - Iowa's absolutely worst season in the time frame utilized by you. Just think, if isu manages to reach a four win total including two in the big xii we will most certainly hear how it is an improvement over last season. [isu 9, Iowa 6.]
2011 - Actually, the Hawks were victorious in four of the final seven games including the win over #13 Michigan. [Lost by three in triple overtime in Ames.]
2010 - Of the loses, top ten ranked Ohio State bested Iowa by a field goal. However, Iowa did beat top five Michigan State by a score of 37-6. [Iowa 35, isu 7.]
2009 - Iowa was 9-0 on the season until losing starting QB Stanzi to a season ending injury in the NW game. [Iowa won in Ames, 35-3.]
2008 - Strong being victorious in the last three and five of the last six including the win over #3 Penn State. [Iowa 17, isu 5.]
2007 - Iowa beat a ranked Illini team to highlight an otherwise dismal season. [isu with a two-point victory.]
2006 - [Iowa won by 10, 27-17 over isu.]
2005 - Iowa won its final two regular season games including a 20-10 win in Madison in the final game against Barry Alvarez and the nationally ranked Badgers. [Lost 3-23 in Ames.}

Iowa plays some fairly good to very good competition on many Saturdays in Big Ten action. As for playing isu later rather than earlier, your selected time frame shows the two teams even at five wins/losses apiece. Given that four of the five total isu victories were by a margin of three points or less, it is not out of the question that Iowa could have won a game or two more if the contests were scheduled for a different date.

 

[tazclone]

Great job of painting not even half a picture here. Let's take a little closer look to discern the reality.

2014 - Iowa actually was two of five in wins at the end of the regular season. The very worst opponent during that stretch was five-win Northwestern, but also included eventual eleven-win Wisconsin and nine-win Nebraska. [Iowa lost by three to isu.]
2013 - Two of the four losses that you mention were to nationally ranked Ohio State and Wisconsin; the two wins were against Michigan and at Nebraska. [Iowa beat isu 27-21.]
2012 - Iowa's absolutely worst season in the time frame utilized by you. Just think, if isu manages to reach a four win total including two in the big xii we will most certainly hear how it is an improvement over last season. [isu 9, Iowa 6.]
2011 - Actually, the Hawks were victorious in four of the final seven games including the win over #13 Michigan. [Lost by three in triple overtime in Ames.]
2010 - Of the loses, top ten ranked Ohio State bested Iowa by a field goal. However, Iowa did beat top five Michigan State by a score of 37-6. [Iowa 35, isu 7.]
2009 - Iowa was 9-0 on the season until losing starting QB Stanzi to a season ending injury in the NW game. [Iowa won in Ames, 35-3.]
2008 - Strong being victorious in the last three and five of the last six including the win over #3 Penn State. [Iowa 17, isu 5.]
2007 - Iowa beat a ranked Illini team to highlight an otherwise dismal season. [isu with a two-point victory.]
2006 - [Iowa won by 10, 27-17 over isu.]
2005 - Iowa won its final two regular season games including a 20-10 win in Madison in the final game against Barry Alvarez and the nationally ranked Badgers. [Lost 3-23 in Ames.}

Iowa plays some fairly good to very good competition on many Saturdays in Big Ten action. As for playing isu later rather than earlier, your selected time frame shows the two teams even at five wins/losses apiece. Given that four of the five total isu victories were by a margin of three points or less, it is not out of the question that Iowa could have won a game or two more if the contests were scheduled for a different date.

LMAO....that is funny. If iowa got better as the season went on they would win more than they lose and wouldnt lose to teams like Minny, NW, Indiana, etc. This is over the last 10 years where everyone and their dog knows the b1g was weak. I love your breakdown of 2010 especially. They freaking lost to Indiana and Minny and then you claim a loss to tOSU as proof that they get better as the season goes on. LMAO! AWESOME!

It is simply a myth. Some teams get better some year, some teams get worse some years. Some teams stay healthy, some teams get injuries. iowa is no different. iowa and iSu have played late in the year once and iSu won. It isn't about not getting up for the game it isn't about getting better as the season goes on. it is about who is the better team and in the Freerentz era, there have been only two times where hoks can claim they were by far the better team 2002(which is arguable) and 2007. Every other year that iSu has won....the teams finish with similar records.

But, ya...go ahead with the "Superbowl, we don't get up for the game, it means less to us than them, we get better as the season goes on" excuses. They are funny. They remind me of the guy that was a stud in 8th grade, then gets passed by.


BTW- Nice job on 2011 as well. 1) the fourth win was 1-11 Indiana, 2) that game was the first half of the season.

 

[tazclone]

Yep isu only loses games because of their bogus SOS. When exactly will SOS equate to Texas Ten teams having the post season results that match their bogus SOS?

Another clone fan myth BUSTED.

Ah yes, the post season. You are right...the b1g was awesome last year and The b1g #2/3 team wisconsin beating the SEC #4/6 team Auburn in OT by a FG proves the the b1g is awesome.
Bowl games are about as relevant to confernece strength as #1Big 12 TCU beating #5 b1g Minny.

but hey, I learned form hok fans like you that perceived conference strength matters and SOS when McCarney was coach. all I heard from hok fans wsa how weak the Big 12 North was. Just following your lead

 

[89and91]

LMAO....that is funny. If iowa got better as the season went on they would win more than they lose and wouldnt lose to teams like Minny, NW, Indiana, etc. This is over the last 10 years where everyone and their dog knows the b1g was weak. I love your breakdown of 201 especially. They freaking lost to Indiana and Minny and then you claim a loss to tOSU as proof that they get better as the season goes on. LMAO! AWESOME!

It is simply a myth. Some teams get better some year, some teams get worse some years. Some teams stay healthy, some teams get injuries. iowa is no different. iowa and iSu have played late in the year once and iSu won. It isn't about not getting up for the game it isn't about getting better as the season goes on. it is about who is the better team and in the Freerentz era, there have been only two times where hoks can claim they were by far the better team 2002(which is arguable) and 2007. Every other year that iSu has won....the teams finish with similar records.

But, ya...go ahead with the "Superbowl, we don't get up for the game, it means less to us than them, we get better as the season goes on" excuses. They are funny. They remind me of the guy that was a stud in 8th grade, then gets passed by.

Clone fans live by the myth that the only reason isu loses football games is due to schedule or SOS. The fact remains that SOS has no indication that one team or group of teams is actually better than others. If it did then the Texas Ten would perform much better in post season bowl games as well as the Men's NCAA tourney.

Sadly for clone fans that hasn't occurred for years.

Ah yes, the post season. You are right...the b1g was awesome last year and The b1g #2/3 team wisconsin beating the SEC #4/6 team Auburn in OT by a FG proves the the b1g is awesome.
Bowl games are about as relevant to confernece strength as #1Big 12 TCU beating #5 b1g Minny.

but hey, I learned form hok fans like you that perceived conference strength matters and SOS when McCarney was coach. all I heard from hok fans wsa how weak the Big 12 North was. Just following your lead

When will the Texas Ten have post season results that match their bogus SOS? It hasn't mattered if it is football or MBB the Texas Ten has failed to even come close to their SOS for years.

But cling to the crutch. It is all clone fans have.

 

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Ah yes, the post season. You are right...the b1g was awesome last year and The b1g #2/3 team wisconsin beating the SEC #4/6 team Auburn in OT by a FG proves the the b1g is awesome.
Bowl games are about as relevant to confernece strength as #1Big 12 TCU beating #5 b1g Minny.

but hey, I learned form hok fans like you that perceived conference strength matters and SOS when McCarney was coach. all I heard from hok fans wsa how weak the Big 12 North was. Just following your lead

Hey Tazzy how did the Texas Ten champion last year do against the #3 team in the Big Ten?

Ouch must ignore.