ISU on rivalry week.

[tazclone]

Great job of painting not even half a picture here. Let's take a little closer look to discern the reality.

2014 - Iowa actually was two of five in wins at the end of the regular season. The very worst opponent during that stretch was five-win Northwestern, but also included eventual eleven-win Wisconsin and nine-win Nebraska. [Iowa lost by three to isu.]
2013 - Two of the four losses that you mention were to nationally ranked Ohio State and Wisconsin; the two wins were against Michigan and at Nebraska. [Iowa beat isu 27-21.]
2012 - Iowa's absolutely worst season in the time frame utilized by you. Just think, if isu manages to reach a four win total including two in the big xii we will most certainly hear how it is an improvement over last season. [isu 9, Iowa 6.]
2011 - Actually, the Hawks were victorious in four of the final seven games including the win over #13 Michigan. [Lost by three in triple overtime in Ames.]
2010 - Of the loses, top ten ranked Ohio State bested Iowa by a field goal. However, Iowa did beat top five Michigan State by a score of 37-6. [Iowa 35, isu 7.]
2009 - Iowa was 9-0 on the season until losing starting QB Stanzi to a season ending injury in the NW game. [Iowa won in Ames, 35-3.]
2008 - Strong being victorious in the last three and five of the last six including the win over #3 Penn State. [Iowa 17, isu 5.]
2007 - Iowa beat a ranked Illini team to highlight an otherwise dismal season. [isu with a two-point victory.]
2006 - [Iowa won by 10, 27-17 over isu.]
2005 - Iowa won its final two regular season games including a 20-10 win in Madison in the final game against Barry Alvarez and the nationally ranked Badgers. [Lost 3-23 in Ames.}

Iowa plays some fairly good to very good competition on many Saturdays in Big Ten action. As for playing isu later rather than earlier, your selected time frame shows the two teams even at five wins/losses apiece. Given that four of the five total isu victories were by a margin of three points or less, it is not out of the question that Iowa could have won a game or two more if the contests were scheduled for a different date.

2005-lost to NW and Michigan
2006-lost to Minny and NW
2007-lost to Western Michigan...yes...Western michigan but yes that 10-6 win over Illinois was impressive and proves they get better as the sesaon goes on.
2008- Wow! they myth is proven...oh wait, they lost to 5-7 Illinois. must have been Illinois' Superbowl.
2009- lost to an inferior NW. must have been their Superbowl
2010- sorry...didn't know a loss in your superbowl signified they got better. That far outweighs the loss to 3-9 Minny.Must have been their Superbowl
2011-another loss to 3-9 Minny. Must have been their superbowl
2012- must have been PSU, Iny, NW, michigan, Nebraska, and Purdiue's Superbowl that year
2013- iowa is a national power....once in a while they should beat a ranked team but iowa actually played well down the stretch
2014- see above

So let's give the benefit of doubt here an dlets say iowa actually played AWESOME at the end of 08, 09, 13. Three out of ten years. WOW I am wrong... iowa ALWAYS gets better as the season goes on. OR, OR maybe they are just like every other team in the country. when they are young they get better, when they are healthy they appear to get better, when the back half of the schedule is eay they appear to be better...oh wait.

 

[tazclone]

Hey Tazzy how did the Texas Ten champion last year do against the #3 team in the Big Ten?

Ouch must ignore.

Kicked their ass for three quarters then took their foot off the pedal and gave up 21 points in the fourth.

hey 89and 91.....how did iowa do against iSU last year?

ouch must ignore.

 

[tazclone]

Clone fans live by the myth that the only reason isu loses football games is due to schedule or SOS. The fact remains that SOS has no indication that one team or group of teams is actually better than others. If it did then the Texas Ten would perform much better in post season bowl games as well as the Men's NCAA tourney.

Sadly for clone fans that hasn't occurred for years.


When will the Texas Ten have post season results that match their bogus SOS? It hasn't mattered if it is football or MBB the Texas Ten has failed to even come close to their SOS for years.

But cling to the crutch. It is all clone fans have.

Irony is thick here form a guy who chants "Superbowl" or claims they don't care, come out flat, get better as the season goes on.

 

[89and91]

Kicked their ass for three quarters then took their foot off the pedal and gave up 21 points in the fourth.

hey 89and 91.....how did iowa do against iSU last year?

ouch must ignore.

Yet the Texas Ten champ lost to the Big Ten #3. So much for the Texas Ten being mighty.

 

[Lone Clone]

LMAO....that is funny. If iowa got better as the season went on they would win more than they lose and wouldnt lose to teams like Minny, NW, Indiana, etc. This is over the last 10 years where everyone and their dog knows the b1g was weak. I love your breakdown of 2010 especially. They freaking lost to Indiana and Minny and then you claim a loss to tOSU as proof that they get better as the season goes on. LMAO! AWESOME!

It is simply a myth. Some teams get better some year, some teams get worse some years. Some teams stay healthy, some teams get injuries. iowa is no different. iowa and iSu have played late in the year once and iSu won. It isn't about not getting up for the game it isn't about getting better as the season goes on. it is about who is the better team and in the Freerentz era, there have been only two times where hoks can claim they were by far the better team 2002(which is arguable) and 2007. Every other year that iSu has won....the teams finish with similar records.

But, ya...go ahead with the "Superbowl, we don't get up for the game, it means less to us than them, we get better as the season goes on" excuses. They are funny. They remind me of the guy that was a stud in 8th grade, then gets passed by.


BTW- Nice job on 2011 as well. 1) the fourth win was 1-11 Indiana, 2) that game was the first half of the season.

I must correct you here, Taz. Iowa State was the better team in 2002 for the first half of the season.

 

[tazclone]

I must correct you here, Taz. Iowa State was the better team in 2002 for the first half of the season.

I agree but you won't get hok fans to admit it and I am willing to give them one benefit of doubt over 17 years. Sagarin rating actually will say that is the ONLY year

 

[tazclone]

Yet the Texas Ten champ lost to the Big Ten #3. So much for the Texas Ten being mighty.

how did iowa do against iSU?

ouch must ignore

 

[tazclone]

Yet the Texas Ten champ lost to the Big Ten #3. So much for the Texas Ten being mighty.

b1g 10 #2 actually. MSU was raked #8 and wisky ranked #18. Which Is why I said b1g #2/3 Wisky when I put it up there

 

[89and91]

how did iowa do against iSU?

ouch must ignore

isu won their Super Bowl. It saved Rhodes' job or was that the Toledo win. We won't laugh really.

 

[89and91]

b1g 10 #2 actually. MSU was raked #8 and wisky ranked #18. Which Is why I said b1g #2/3 Wisky when I put it up there

Yet the Texas Ten Champ lost to the Big Ten.

Ouch so much for the supposedly mighty Texas Ten.

 

[tazclone]

how did iowa do against iSU?

ouch must ignore

isu won their Super Bowl. It saved Rhodes' job or was that the Toledo win. We won't laugh really.

LOL keep using your

 

[tazclone]

Yet the Texas Ten champ lost to the Big Ten #3. So much for the Texas Ten being mighty.

yep...everyone knows it was MSU's Superbowl. Everyone knows Baylor didn't care and was pissed about not making the playoff. everyone knows Baylor took their foot off the gas.

 

[5Fan5]

LMAO....that is funny. If iowa got better as the season went on they would win more than they lose and wouldnt lose to teams like Minny, NW, Indiana, etc. This is over the last 10 years where everyone and their dog knows the b1g was weak. I love your breakdown of 2010 especially. They freaking lost to Indiana and Minny and then you claim a loss to tOSU as proof that they get better as the season goes on. LMAO! AWESOME!

It is simply a myth. Some teams get better some year, some teams get worse some years. Some teams stay healthy, some teams get injuries. iowa is no different. iowa and iSu have played late in the year once and iSu won. It isn't about not getting up for the game it isn't about getting better as the season goes on. it is about who is the better team and in the Freerentz era, there have been only two times where hoks can claim they were by far the better team 2002(which is arguable) and 2007. Every other year that iSu has won....the teams finish with similar records.

But, ya...go ahead with the "Superbowl, we don't get up for the game, it means less to us than them, we get better as the season goes on" excuses. They are funny. They remind me of the guy that was a stud in 8th grade, then gets passed by.


BTW- Nice job on 2011 as well. 1) the fourth win was 1-11 Indiana, 2) that game was the first half of the season.

Well then, let's put some real perspective on this as it relates to isu.

How many of those weak/bad/terrible teams from the lowly Big Ten has isu ever had sustained success against? Surely a member of such a powerful league as the mighty big8/big xii has a wealth of experience and success against such paltry opposition. Look, we have already taken a closer peek at how isu has fared against feeble ole Iowa over the most recent decade... it indicates that isu generally wins by the smallest of margins while Iowa has won generally more convincingly in terms of final score. Why is that? Wait, I almost forgot your amazing bowl victory over Minnesota in 2009 (of course, that would be the very same Gopher team that won a total of six whole games and only three of those in Big Ten competition.) 12-0 against Iowa that year was mocked by you as not being impressive, yet a game where isu scored very late to win by a total of just a single point against the very same team is noteworthy? Please.

Tell us exactly how isu has done, win/loss wise versus the Big Ten. Don't stop there, pick any of the other major conferences and give us the real insight on just how good isu is at football. Better yet, identify the major conference program that has accomplished less overall than has isu in football.

Let me/us know when you reach the 8th grade... I have to admit that I am more than just minimally embarrassed to be debating this with someone so young and immature.

 

[89and91]

LOL keep using your

Not at all Iowa plays its Bowl game in December or January while isu plays theirs in mid September.

 

[89and91]

yep...everyone knows it was MSU's Superbowl. Everyone knows Baylor didn't care and was pissed about not making the playoff. everyone knows Baylor took their foot off the gas.

Or SOS is proved once again to be the bogus crutch clone fans live to cling to.

 

[5Fan5]

Ah yes, the post season. You are right...the b1g was awesome last year and The b1g #2/3 team wisconsin beating the SEC #4/6 team Auburn in OT by a FG proves the the b1g is awesome.
Bowl games are about as relevant to confernece strength as #1Big 12 TCU beating #5 b1g Minny.

but hey, I learned form hok fans like you that perceived conference strength matters and SOS when McCarney was coach. all I heard from hok fans wsa how weak the Big 12 North was. Just following your lead

Perhaps you should rely on what others have to say on the matter. For instance, Phil Steele considered the Big Ten better than the big xii last season. Same for 2013 and 2010. That would make it three out of the most recent five which is all that seems to matter to fools such as you.

 

[89and91]

Perhaps you should rely on what others have to say on the matter. For instance, Phil Steele considered the Big Ten better than the big xii last season. Same for 2013 and 2010. That would make it three out of the most recent five which is all that seems to matter to fools such as you.

Must ignore. Tazzy will lose it. Take away another crutch.

 

[Psyclone]

I must correct you here, Taz. Iowa State was the better team in 2002 for the first half of the season.

You may get an argument on that, but what I believe is that Iowa did not match up well with with Iowa State. That 2002 team did not play good pass defense. It was not exposed through the Big 10 schedule, but was in the bowl game. The 2003 Iowa team actually had better defensive backs, but some years the breaks fall the other way and instead of ending up on the winning side of close games, ended up on the losing side a few times.