The Caring Bridge site says that the victim has been removed from all lifesaving interventions and moved to hospice.
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That’s awful.
I am curious to know why ICPD has not released more details in this case….and what makes it different than the one on the other side of town.
One big difference would be there are two different agencies handling each incident.
This is one of the most common situations whereby a crosswalk incident involving a pedestrian occurs. Four lane road where the car on the right stops for the pedestrian as is required by law. A car passing by that stopped car doesn't see the pedestrian and fails to yield the right of way, thereby striking the pedestrian. The driver that strikes the pedestrian will at a minimum be cited for failure to yield to a pedestrian. Although not an egregious violation, a lack of awareness that you are approaching a crosswalk and the car to your right and/or in front of you has stopped makes you culpable with catastrophic consequences.
A similar fatal incident in my town resulted in flashing lights being installed as a warning to motorists that a pedestrian is in or is about to be enter the roadway. IMO, it is more dangerous to create pedestrian crossings without this type of flashing warning than not creating the crosswalk in the first place, particularly on 4 lane roads.
Couldn’t agree more. We have to assume the pedestrian couldn’t see the car or he/she wouldn’t continue into the intersection. Flashing lights don’t always work. There needs to be an actual red light to stop cars or the pedestrian has the responsibility to make sure they’re safe.
The lights don't always work but they are way more likely to get a motorist's attention than a simple sign. Does anyone know if there were any lights activated in this instance?
Celebrities and powerful people are treated differently. Who doesn't know this?
I don't know this particular one but I've always hated pedestrian crossings that aren't at a stop light for this exact reason.
People on foot should just have to wait until the cost is clear or go to a crosswalk.
When cars have to stop without a light bad things happen.
Don't disagree, but when a street is busy and there is a long way between cross street lights, it can take a long time for traffic to clear, especially if you are someone who cannot walk fast. A button activated light is the safest solution, but flashing lights help. Unfortunately, both are hard to get installed, and they still don't totally guard against careless or negligent drivers or pedestrians.
Does Iowa City allow bikes on the sidewalk or was this a bike trail? Shouldn’t the biker have been on the other side of the road/right hand side of the street?
There aren't lights at this crossing, just signage.
I think the city may have made the mistake of using a half measure in this instance. They recognized the need for a crossing, but didn't want to hinder traffic in this particular area.
It's a spot that can get fairly congested at a certain time of day (the same time this accident occured). West High students driving home, workers heading to the Interstate to commute home, etc. Plus, more and more people are living near Camp Cardinal Blvd. or using it as an alternative route to Coralville.
Thanks. I thought the original story put the victim on a bike.
As a West High grad, let me clue you in. Students love to drive fast and race on Melrose. I did it in the 80s and I'm not proud of it. In those days, there was much less development, people or vehicles. It was still stupid. West high has many rich students whose families are prominent in the community. That buys power and prestige and sometimes large vehicles and high performance cars. Not a great combo when you've barely driven a year or two at the most.
I nearly ran over a jogger one night on Jefferson street because the idiot in the right lane who was turning right on to Dodge slowed to a stop for a jogger which gave the jogger the impression he was fine to cross against the light despite having a no walking sign right in his face. I had a weird feeling about it and let off my gas as I passed the car to my right and there he was like a deer in the headlights. I slammed on my brakes and the guy jumped several feet in the air, a look of sheer terror on his face. I rolled down my window yelling “ WTF are you thinking!?!” and he ran off without saying a word. He was wearing a full black track suit which made seeing him even more difficult. I was pissed as hell but more so with the other driver for being stupidly Iowa Nice. It’ll kill you or someone else sometimes. I saw a lot of similar stupidity at the Market and Linn intersection over the years.
Corey Hite died.
Shame on the icpd for covering this shit up. Eric Branstad junior.
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Shame on the icpd for covering this shit up. Eric Branstad junior.
Iowa National Guard Soldier dead after May 22nd car crash
According to a Caring Bridge page, Iowa National Guard Soldier Corey Hite has passed away after being hit by a car on May 22nd in Iowa City.
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That is awful.Corey Hite died.
Shame on the icpd for covering this shit up. Eric Branstad junior.
Iowa National Guard Soldier dead after May 22nd car crash
According to a Caring Bridge page, Iowa National Guard Soldier Corey Hite has passed away after being hit by a car on May 22nd in Iowa City.
But Yeah, I think there are some serious questions that need to be answered here…
What cover up? If no charges were filed, what business is it of yours? I don't mean to sound snarky, but the family of the guy that died probably aren't the only ones grieving here so I don't mind the privacy etiquette.Corey Hite died.
Shame on the icpd for covering this shit up. Eric Branstad junior.
Iowa National Guard Soldier dead after May 22nd car crash
According to a Caring Bridge page, Iowa National Guard Soldier Corey Hite has passed away after being hit by a car on May 22nd in Iowa City.
As far as the crosswalk signage goes, those things are stupid and dangerous. My take is those signs are merely warning signs for drivers and indicate a crosswalk, not that pedestrians have a right of way (unless in the middle of the road). You put a flashing light on them, and then make the law that says when the light is flashing drivers MUST stop.
Bikers are supposed to ride with the flow of traffic so I'd say yes...
Come across too many bikers riding the wrong way here in Florida....
Just saw the correction...guess he was jogging. Which means he was on the correct side...you run towards traffic.
Awful accident. If this is a frequent pedestrian crossing, hopefully this tragedy will lead to some improvements. Prayers to all those involved.
Your take on crosswalks don't really matter since the actual law says otherwise. The driver will be at fault if hitting a pedestrian in a cross walk regardless of if you agree or not. Super sad for all involved. Terrible situation.
It varies by state / locality, but bikes are generally not considered pedestrians and are have to follow the same laws as other vehicles. Even in a cross walk, if you are riding a bike vs walking the bike it can change fault and who has to yield. In most places, a bike being ridden in a cross walk does not have a right of way since it's a vehicle whereas a pedestrian does. So when riding on the street, a bike is another vehicle just like a car. A pedestrian / jogger generally shouldn't be on a road anyway with the exception of cross walks and likely wouldn't have a clear right of way.
This appears to be a tragic incident that was a true accident assuming there wasn't distracted driving going on or excessive speed, which did occur on some of the other incidents referenced in this thread. Without those aggravating factors, there likely won't be criminal charges against the driver, but they will still be liable civilly. Super super sad stuff. Feel terrible for everyone involved.
(SIAP) So, in Iowa, if a pedestrian steps into the cross walk (even if there are no stop lights), traffic has to stop for the pedestrian to cross, correct? This is the law in other states as well.
I agree with you; i think it's a bad law; it just backs up traffic, causes potential rear ending of the car or cars that stopped, etc.
Sometimes, too, a car will stop in one direction and cars from the other direction don't. What a mess that creates. And how often do you see the pedestrian in a hurry to cross?
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Corey Hite died.
Shame on the icpd for covering this shit up. Eric Branstad junior.
Iowa National Guard Soldier dead after May 22nd car crash
According to a Caring Bridge page, Iowa National Guard Soldier Corey Hite has passed away after being hit by a car on May 22nd in Iowa City.
Iowa Code 321.327 – Pedestrians’ right-of-way
1. Where traffic-control signals are not in place or in operation the driver of a vehicle shall yield the right-of-way, slowing down or stopping if need be to so yield, to a pedestrian crossing the roadway within any marked crosswalk or within any unmarked crosswalk at an intersection, except as otherwise provided in this chapter.
1. Where traffic-control signals are not in place or in operation the driver of a vehicle shall yield the right-of-way, slowing down or stopping if need be to so yield, to a pedestrian crossing the roadway within any marked crosswalk or within any unmarked crosswalk at an intersection, except as otherwise provided in this chapter.
What are the possible criminal and civil charges that might be coming?
Just an awful situation for everyone involved that will haunt them for the rest of their lives.
Just an awful situation for everyone involved that will haunt them for the rest of their lives.
It would depend on the details of the incident. Aggravating factors (e.g. texting, drinking, or excessive speeding) could result in criminal charges. If it's a scenario where the driver didn't see the pedestrian and was otherwise driving safely (this is what has been suggested so far), there would be a citation and the details of the incident may not be released if the driver is a minor. The driver's family would almost certainly be sued in civil court too.
No matter what happens at least two families were absolutely devastated and no charges, lawsuits, or viewpoints on cross-walk laws can ever undo that.
When there's no traffic light then it's a no win situation. If the car has the right-of-way, then it allows the driver to plow over anything in his/her way. With the pedestrian right-of-way, it puts the pedestrian in a position where they think they can do whatever because they have the right-of-way. But all that does is make a driver responsible for an accident they possibly couldn't see coming. In the end, the pedestrian has to look out for themselves because accidents do happen. You can blame the driver all you want, but if someone walks/jogs into traffic they better watch out. We tell our kids to look both ways. We tell our kids to not walk in front of a bus unless the driver sees the kid. This reminds me of a saying my dad used to say, the pedestrian might have the right-of-way, but sometimes even when you're right, you're wrong.
Yeah, its just a rotten deal and as I mentioned above, it's gonna haunt several people for the rest of their lives
if no other law was involved the police do have a catch all citation that they can issue.
in this case the always popular citation is Failure to Maintain Control of your vehicle. this gives the victim something to hang their hat on in a civil suit. right or wrong this is the world of suing anybody for anything.
in this case the always popular citation is Failure to Maintain Control of your vehicle. this gives the victim something to hang their hat on in a civil suit. right or wrong this is the world of suing anybody for anything.
one question does anybody know who was doing what?
if nothing has been released why these poster allowed to say that Jack has done anything at all, the kids a FR in HS soon to be a SO. when I was a FR soon to be SO I didn't have my license to drive nor did any of my classmates.
going off that most should just STFU UNTIL something is proven. who know maybe it was Jack that got hit. did any of you think of that or did you just jump to the conclusion or were hoping that young McCaffery boy dud it to just slam the McCaffery family anyway you can.
some of you are real sick.
if nothing has been released why these poster allowed to say that Jack has done anything at all, the kids a FR in HS soon to be a SO. when I was a FR soon to be SO I didn't have my license to drive nor did any of my classmates.
going off that most should just STFU UNTIL something is proven. who know maybe it was Jack that got hit. did any of you think of that or did you just jump to the conclusion or were hoping that young McCaffery boy dud it to just slam the McCaffery family anyway you can.
some of you are real sick.
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Sit this one out, champ.
When were you a freshman in high school?
You might find this crazy, but when I was going into my sophomore year, some of my classmates could drive before me! And even more crazy, some kids could drive even before sophomore year with school permits!
yes this was in HS I did have a farmer licenses to drive farm equipment on the roadways. which is really wanted or needed. once I got my permit my 1st car was a 1965 Mustang. it got me from point A to point B just fine.
The story when this breaks will be why was this hidden. Sadly it will be a bigger story than the poor soul that lost his life.
No one is attacking Jack and no one is hoping it was Jack so they can slam Fran. That's just an absurd statement.
People are speculating it may have been Jack and the fact we haven't heard anything about the driver in the two weeks since the accident happened leads one to reasonably conclude that there is someone with sway/power behind the scenes delaying the release of that information.
Additionally, if I was Jack (or Fran) and people were speculating about something this serious that I wasn't involved with I would be squashing those rumors immediately. It's been radio silence on that front.
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