Jack McCaffery: Officially Not Considering Iowa
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13 years is a long time for a coach to stay at one program. Hopefully Jack not going to Iowa will result in Fran retiring when Jack finishes high school.
He’s already the losingest coach in both categories.
it's too bad Fran is forced to coach at Iowa with its vile disgusting fans.
Good news IMO….. if it accelerates Fran’s exit. Also, eliminates the maddening bullshit of playing his sons over better players on the roster.
If true this is huge, means this might be Frans last year (if its actually Pat's last year) and Iowa could still end up with Devries.
It’s crazy what’s coming from some of these people. Heaven forbid people questioned Kris Murray, a 1st round pick in the upcoming draft, coming off the bench behind Pat. I like Fran, he’s resurrected the program but to think at a Power 5 conference school like Iowa you won’t get second guessed a bit is ridiculous. Can’t even imagine what it’s like at Kansas or Kentucky from the fans. If Jack wants to go elsewhere that’s his call. I hope it’s not his moms.
Fran deserves recognition for resurrecting Iowa BB from a low point but he never got over the hump. His NCAA tourney teams consistently underperformed. Time (past time) to thank him and bring in a new coach.
I predict the same people that hate the McCafferys will hate the next guy the same.
it's a sign of how wicked this world has become.
Matthew 24:12
And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.
it's a sign of how wicked this world has become.
Matthew 24:12
And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.
It does look like it will be Patrick's last year at Iowa, unless he has a change of heart & uses his free covid year and plays thru March, 2025.
When I said "If true (that Fran moves on once Pat's gone), that would mean 2 more years of the Fran era," I was assuming Fran would still coach 2 more seasons, thru March 2025, because PMac might still be playing at Iowa & Jack would be done with high school and would be moving on to college out of state. If Jack is playing out of state, everyone is assuming Fran would want to be there watching all of his games.
But who knows what will happen over the next 2 years; no one has asked Fran about this plans or if he needs to be at all of Jack's games. PMac indicated that this "has nothing to do w [Fran] retiring," so who knows....
No they won’t if the new person has more success. Fran has had 13 years.
I'm fine if Fran stays, and fine if he leaves. Just some FACTs though since you generally leave those out. His being the winningest coach is a longevity award. No one else coached here for 13 years with the number of games we play now. FACT. He's also the losingest coach. Same reason. Fran does a GREAT job of running is potent offense through one stellar player. FACT. We basically had the NPOTY 4 straight years. Unfortunately, none of that has led to Iowa actually taking those stellar scoring numbers, (most all of the top 10 scorers in Iowa history have played for Fran) and turned into a hill of beans. EVERY year knocked out in the first weekend of the tourney, several times in the first game against teams we had no business losing too. These are facts. Good coach, who knows how to run an offense, seems to have little concern for teaching defense, (or simply has no idea). Most likely we are what we are under Fran. We're going to win some games, finish 3rd to 8th in the big, and lose the first round in the tourney....
For unimaginable generational wealth I think I could manage.
Nowhere else would he be paid as well for his performance. He could last forever in MVC just making tournament but one and done and a good paying power conference job? No way.
Iowa has been very good to him.
Success at power 5 basketball school is 100% tournament results. In the long run nobody cares about conference titles or conference tournament titles. The scoreboard is this: sweet 16s Elite 8s and Final Fours. Nothing
, absolutely nothing outweighs this.
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The warning signs are shining brighter that this may be Fran's last or second-to-last year...
- PMac indicating this is his last year at Iowa (doesn't mean he won't hit the transfer portal)
- JMac indicating he doesn't think he'll go to Iowa, he's made up his mind awhile ago, the family is aligned
- JMac's involvement in the recent tragic incident certainly doesn't help
- JMac graduates HS in two years
- Both CMac and Marit out-of-state now
- Marge not happy with the many of the Iowa fans on social media
- New AD will want to make their mark on the Iowa program (heck KF's getting way up in age too)
- Fran supposedly reached out to ND regarding their recent opening
- Fran will likely exceed Dr. Tom as all time IA total wins leader in 2 years
- Fran will be 65-66 years old
I suspect he's done in 2 years so he gets the all-time IA win record and allows Jack to graduate HS in IC. It will give Fran time to land in the right spot. Heck, Fran and Jack might be a package deal somewhere. I have a feeling that PMac will hit the transfer portal and play elsewhere his final Covid year. I suspect the McCaffery's are ready to be done with Iowa City.
- PMac indicating this is his last year at Iowa (doesn't mean he won't hit the transfer portal)
- JMac indicating he doesn't think he'll go to Iowa, he's made up his mind awhile ago, the family is aligned
- JMac's involvement in the recent tragic incident certainly doesn't help
- JMac graduates HS in two years
- Both CMac and Marit out-of-state now
- Marge not happy with the many of the Iowa fans on social media
- New AD will want to make their mark on the Iowa program (heck KF's getting way up in age too)
- Fran supposedly reached out to ND regarding their recent opening
- Fran will likely exceed Dr. Tom as all time IA total wins leader in 2 years
- Fran will be 65-66 years old
I suspect he's done in 2 years so he gets the all-time IA win record and allows Jack to graduate HS in IC. It will give Fran time to land in the right spot. Heck, Fran and Jack might be a package deal somewhere. I have a feeling that PMac will hit the transfer portal and play elsewhere his final Covid year. I suspect the McCaffery's are ready to be done with Iowa City.
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Fran turned 64 last month. I am sure prospects recently have been asking him how much longer he plans on coaching so they know if he'll still be around when their 4 years is up.
Yesterday Fran extended 13 additional offers for the 2025 class (28 have now been offered). I am sure all 28 Class of 2025 prospects now have a lot of questions.
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agreed. i think the accident only cements his decision that leaving the state of Iowa is best for him
Good luck with that and all of those NIL dollars pouring into Iowa Basketball. 🤞
Fran can walk away with around $25 million in compensation from Iowa in 13 years vs the $5 million or
so he made in 20 plus years elsewhere. The guy has been paid well and being a public figure is part of the
job. No tears.
I liked the Fran hire and think he’s a good coach. Unfortunately he just hasn’t gotten it done here, nor do I think he ever will. Lackluster recruiting (sorry, skinny white guys from Waukee or Iowa City or whatever other suburban school in Iowa aren’t the answer) and poor NCAA tournament showings.
Perhaps the nil knows what they get with Fran, nil $$ better spent on sports that take Iowa to a higher level.
That last paragraph is you and others like you. Didn't used to be that way. Conference titles were prized. in fact were necessary to get into the tourney going way back. Give up your shreds of the baskets players and coaches --not worth anything unless you make 16, 8, or 4. !
Also, so money more important than anything, family, career enjoyment,.......?
It will be interesting to see what the future holds because right now SWARM Inc has been using all the money for football players, where there hasn't been anything left for men's basketball.
People have complained that Fran hasn't landed any big fish in the transfer portal; the problem is that he's clearly been outbid. Will that change whenever a new coach arrives? Only time will tell, but Iowa clearly is a football (and wrestling) school; all you have to do is follow the money.
The Fran era will probably always be known for very exciting offense, very poor defense, and never making a Sweet 16, unfortunately.
Winning the Rose Bowl also use to be the end-all-be-all. It isn’t any longer. Not when it’s teams that just lost the conference championship game and winners are in the playoff.
Times change. If they didn’t, everybody would still think the NIT was a big deal.
SWARM Inc knows what they have gotten from a Brian Ferentz offense. Nevertheless, SWARM Inc spent a LOT on the Iowa football offense; they paid for a starting QB, a starting TE, a starting WR and more. They also paid for a starting LB.
Will all that spending take Iowa to a higher level that you speak of (a B1G championship and a high end bowl game)? Probably not, but it sure makes the preseason for Iowa football a lot more fun & interesting.
As I've said before it's difficult to be the coaches son and player especially at a high level. U either need to be an All American or sitting on the bench. Anything in between and u open yourself up to difficult criticism/situations.
Some reason I think you’re being serious with post and not sarcastic. Keep burying that head. It will get better, I’m sure.
And lets face it; fans love to move the goal posts. First, they bitched Fran could never make a run in the B1G Conference tournament. When he won the damn thing, they suddenly said "well, he's never won a B1G regular season title."
This is nothing new and has gone on well before NIL’s inception. Iowa spends 33% of their athletic budget on football compared to 6% on basketball. Iowa is a football school. Football makes Iowa money and that’s where their resources will be focused on. That has nothing to do with Fran and that won’t change when the next guy arrives. NIL money distribution will be the same too.
Age is a major factor in Fran’s retirement, obviously. I wonder how much the NIL process has expedited it though.
Bottomline Iowa needs to hire a superior coach for success. Someone that can win with less.
real bottom line is that whichever coach is here, they are going to need a shitload more NIL money to compete.
Agree completely. If there’s one thing Iowa Basketball has plenty of, it’s less. Less facilities, less recruiting base, less NIL money, less tradition, and less resources.
Iowa has pretty good fans in general so that keeps me optimistic. Recruiting and NIL, which are becoming hand in hand, will be the key for whoever takes over. It’s going to be an uphill battle to say the least.
I'd look strongly at Devries. His teams play elite defense. Seems to do well in Portal. But can he recruit and retain well enough at the Big ten level?
Not disagreeing. One of my points is that people have complained that Fran is a horrible recruiter because he hasn't landed any big fish in the transfer portal; well, the problem is that he's been clearly outbid. And Brad, the CEO of SWARM Inc, has admitted that they don't have the funds to support men's basketball. And as I mentioned, not sure if getting outbid will change whenever a new coach arrives.
funny how many NT Duke with all those skinny white dudes. its also funny that Davis got ran off because he didn't land a skinny white dude from IA. and Davis had 1 Elite 8 and 2 sweet 16's.
you people are the biggest liars on the internet.
complaint about not recruiting the higher ranked players, what a bunch of assholes
both the McCaffry boys were top 100 4* by ESPN
the 23 class Sanfort is a top 100 4* by ESPN YOU hate him because he's white
Harding and Freeman are both 4*'s and they are hated because they are white.
why don't you go around campus and post banners SAYING WHITE PLAYERS NEED NOT COME HERE.
tell you what Hansen is the radio announcer for the Hawks why don't you go to the next BB game and tell him he should have never played for IA because he is white.
same with Bowen, Bullard, Haluska, Recker who transferred from Indiana and all the other WHITE PLAYERS.
MAYBE kick all the WHITE students out and turn IA into a whole black only school. from the President all the way down to EVERY employee.
Fran is a good coach but not a great coach. When I think of great I'm thinking of guys like Jay Wright. Unfortunately there aren't any of those available. A good coach coming on mid 60's. Probably time to move on for everyone.
