Jake Rudock is kind of a stud.

[UncleChesterton]

777 yards, 8 TD's 1 Int. in the last two games!

Don't get me wrong. I think Iowa has the better QB but I think that there was a surplus of talent and that these two guys needed to be handed a team and told to get it done with no drama.

Two Iowa QB's running two top 15 teams! Wild times, people....

 

[Hawkeyes4Life247]

I think Iowa has the better quarterback for Iowa, but in terms of NFL attritbutes, Jake Rudock has a bigger upside at this time. Give CJB another year to develop in the pocket and he could be the better prospect when comparing senior year to senior year. CJB makes people around him better, but Rudock can take advantage of talent and run an offense at a high level.

 

[hawkifann]

I always saw some benefit to both guys at Iowa and I'm glad that Rudock is having success at Michigan. I do think Iowa made the right call in terms of the best QB for Iowa going forward, but I'm so tired of reading comments from some Iowa fans STILL saying that Rudock doesn't have B1G starting QB level talent. That's just a silly argument. He has some limitations, but there are a lot of things he does really, really well -- and he's been doing some of those things really, really well for years.

 

[bravehawks1]

One is a game manager, one is a game winner! The game winner is playing for the Hawks and will be a better bet for the NFL too. The game manager will be in med school at this time, not the NFL

 

[SoonerBeAHawk]

He is leading a rather charmed football life.

Start for two years at a solid B1G program, lose the job only to be offered the keys to the Michigan offense. Quite the experience I'd have to say.

 

[UncleChesterton]

One is a game manager, one is a game winner! The game winner is playing for the Hawks and will be a better bet for the NFL too. The game manager will be in med school at this time, not the NFL

Don't see where this is coming from given his record and passing prowess of late. Why do we need to trash talk a former Iowa QB who's doing great?

 

[sloehawk]

I think Iowa has the better quarterback for Iowa, but in terms of NFL attritbutes, Jake Rudock has a bigger upside at this time. Give CJB another year to develop in the pocket and he could be the better prospect when comparing senior year to senior year. CJB makes people around him better, but Rudock can take advantage of talent and run an offense at a high level.

What? Seriously? This must be one of those "because Jim Harbaugh says so" deals.

I can 100% GUARANTEE you Iowa is NOT 10-0 with Jake Rudock as our starting QB. No way in hell does that transpire. I would go so far as to say we aren't even ranked as of this date. And it isn't because I think Rudock is terrible, he isn't, but what he is not is a Playmaker, and Iowa's playmaking QB has us at 10-0 because he uummmm...... makes plays when it really matters..........Jake Rudock made plays against Ball State to pull us out of a deficit he helped create. That's the difference in those 2 QB's.

Let me remind you James Vandenberg was invited to an NFL Camp as a Free Agent. If he could be, so could Rudock, but at the end of the day they'll both make far more money doing whatever it is they do that doesn't pertain to Football.

 

[JupiterHawk]

I think Iowa has the better quarterback for Iowa, but in terms of NFL attritbutes, Jake Rudock has a bigger upside at this time. .

Now sure how in the hell you came up with this conclusion. Must be a troll. Obviously a troll...

PS - I do agree Rudock is a stud and am happy with his success.

 

[WORTHYWISH]

Too bad Jakey Poo will never play in the NFL, maybe in Canada.

 

[hawkifann]

One is a game manager, one is a game winner! The game winner is playing for the Hawks and will be a better bet for the NFL too. The game manager will be in med school at this time, not the NFL

This is the kind of stuff that makes me a little crazy. I'm not predicting that Jake will have a long career as an elite NFL QB, but to think he has no shot is ridiculous. See below. One set of numbers is Jake Rudock's junior and senior years and the other set is going to be an NFL HOF QB:

Player A
Junior: 62% completion rate, 2427 yards, 7.5 yards/attempt, 14 TD/10 INT
Senior: 61% completion rate, 2217 yards, 7.5 yards/attempt, 16 TD/6 INT

Player B
Junior: 62% completion rate, 2436 yards, 7.1 yards/attempt, 16 TD/5 INT
Senior: 65% completion rate, 2220 yards, 7.1 yards/attempt, 14 TD/8 INT

Player A is Tom Brady....and that doesn't take into account that Brady had no rushing numbers at Michigan. I'm not saying Jake is going to be Tom Brady, but a guy who has played in the Big Ten and started for 3 years on two teams running two different offenses and can do what he's done is going to get his chances in the NFL if he pursues it. Getting a year with Jim Harbaugh is certainly not going to hurt him at all.

 

[mvhomerj]

Too bad Jakey Poo will never play in the NFL, maybe in Canada.

Jakey Poo? Your messages should have stayed at 1,875.

 

[wyohawk]

Jake has proven he is passable, nothing more nothing less.
Pretty much how we had him pegged last year as well.

 

[sloehawk]

This is the kind of stuff that makes me a little crazy. I'm not predicting that Jake will have a long career as an elite NFL QB, but to think he has no shot is ridiculous. See below. One set of numbers is Jake Rudock's junior and senior years and the other set is going to be an NFL HOF QB:

Player A
Junior: 62% completion rate, 2427 yards, 7.5 yards/attempt, 14 TD/10 INT
Senior: 61% completion rate, 2217 yards, 7.5 yards/attempt, 16 TD/6 INT

Player B
Junior: 62% completion rate, 2436 yards, 7.1 yards/attempt, 16 TD/5 INT
Senior: 65% completion rate, 2220 yards, 7.1 yards/attempt, 14 TD/8 INT

Player A is Tom Brady....and that doesn't take into account that Brady had no rushing numbers at Michigan. I'm not saying Jake is going to be Tom Brady, but a guy who has played in the Big Ten and started for 3 years on two teams running two different offenses and can do what he's done is going to get his chances in the NFL if he pursues it. Getting a year with Jim Harbaugh is certainly not going to hurt him at all.

Tim Tebow agrees with you.

 

[hawkifann]

Tim Tebow agrees with you.

Tim Tebow was a completely different style QB and his game didn't translate at all, as we ultimately saw. Jake Rudock is 100x the drop-back passer that Tebow ever was at Florida.

But, you already knew that, so carry on.

 

[Hawkeyes4Life247]

What? Seriously? This must be one of those "because Jim Harbaugh says so" deals.

I can 100% GUARANTEE you Iowa is NOT 10-0 with Jake Rudock as our starting QB. No way in hell does that transpire. I would go so far as to say we aren't even ranked as of this date. And it isn't because I think Rudock is terrible, he isn't, but what he is not is a Playmaker, and Iowa's playmaking QB has us at 10-0 because he uummmm...... makes plays when it really matters..........Jake Rudock made plays against Ball State to pull us out of a deficit he helped create. That's the difference in those 2 QB's.

Let me remind you James Vandenberg was invited to an NFL Camp as a Free Agent. If he could be, so could Rudock, but at the end of the day they'll both make far more money doing whatever it is they do that doesn't pertain to Football.

Thanks for agreeing with what I wrote. You said the same thing, only in a hostile tone for some unknown reason.

 

[Hawkeyes4Life247]

Now sure how in the hell you came up with this conclusion. Must be a troll. Obviously a troll...

PS - I do agree Rudock is a stud and am happy with his success.

Yes, obviously I'm a troll. It has nothing to do with the fact that the NFL is a league built around tall, game managing, pocket passers. Rudock will likely get a chance to be a backup in the NFL after this season, even if that breaks the hearts of some Iowa fans for some strange reason.

I'm happy for Rudock and couldn't be happier to be an Iowa grad and fan right now. It all worked out for everyone involved. But yes, I am a troll.

 

[soybean]

I always saw some benefit to both guys at Iowa and I'm glad that Rudock is having success at Michigan. I do think Iowa made the right call in terms of the best QB for Iowa going forward, but I'm so tired of reading comments from some Iowa fans STILL saying that Rudock doesn't have B1G starting QB level talent. That's just a silly argument. He has some limitations, but there are a lot of things he does really, really well -- and he's been doing some of those things really, really well for years.

Well said.

 

[swihawkeye]

Rudock is a stud, may be an NFL prospect.

Beathard is a stud, has Iowa at 10-0 for the first time in school history.

Good on both of them!!!

 

[Hawked]

I agree with the OP. Rudock is kind of a stud. CJ is a stud. When you put it like that it's pretty clear who should be Iowa's starting QB and who should have transferred if they want to see the field.

 

[Kurt Warner]

I don't consider Ruddock a stud. He not only pouted after being replaced by cj in a game last season but also up and left after learning he wasn't going to be a starter any longer. Don't hate the guy or anything but cj was a tremendous upgrade at qb for the hawks and is the main reason the team is 10-0. Cj is the only stud of the two.

 

[cg8284]

Rudock may have the intelligence to play in the NFL but he doesn't have the arm.

 

[WORTHYWISH]

Rudock is a stud, may be an NFL prospect.

Beathard is a stud, has Iowa at 10-0 for the first time in school history.

Good on both of them!!!

Um, no.

 

[swihawkeye]

YUP. Opinions vary.

 

[WORTHYWISH]

Jakey Poo? Your messages should have stayed at 1,875.

 

[BeepBeepInMyJeep]

Rutgers and Indiana? Yippee! He did that last year too. Let's see what he does against the defenses on offer at Happy Valley and Ohio State. I think they lose this weekend and end this silliness. As much as some talk S about our schedule while talking them up, Michigan's best win looks eerily similar similar to ours.

 

[swihawkeye]

Like him, don't like him, Michigan has played football a very long time and has seen its share of NFL quarterbacks, Rudock just set an all time school record six TD's in one game.

He's a stud. Your definition may vary.

Hell, we used to brag him up...

http://www.hawkeyesports.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/jake_rudock_769527.html

 

[mlb1399]

I think Iowa has the better quarterback for Iowa, but in terms of NFL attritbutes, Jake Rudock has a bigger upside at this time. Give CJB another year to develop in the pocket and he could be the better prospect when comparing senior year to senior year. CJB makes people around him better, but Rudock can take advantage of talent and run an offense at a high level.

I disagree. I think Ruddock has little to no chance or making it in the NFL. He benefits from having a lot of talent around him. I don't think he has the accuracy or downfield passing that a NFL QB needs to have to even get a shot to play.

On top of that, Beathards ability to lead, read a defense, call audibles, strong arm, pocket presence, escapability and general "it" factor will give him a better shot. He still needs to work on some things including accuracy downfield passing but part of that may be due to injury.

 

[sloehawk]

Tim Tebow was a completely different style QB and his game didn't translate at all, as we ultimately saw. Jake Rudock is 100x the drop-back passer that Tebow ever was at Florida.

But, you already knew that, so carry on.

I saw Jake Rudock "drop back" a lot at Iowa. Those 3 yard check down passes were a thing of beauty, as was his ability to curl up in a ball at the slightest hint of a pass rush. You can crown Rudock all you want. I refuse to, because of what I saw with my own two eyes.

Maybe he's had a complete transformation, and will take the NFL by storm. But if he didn't, he'd do well to keep going to class.

 

[Hawked]

Did Jake leave because of playing time or because he wanted to go to med school in Michigan?? I was arguing with some big wig at work about this the other day. Can't stand guys at work who think they are always right because of their job title so I let him have it. What's the message board consensus on why he left? I think I know it but need some reassurance.

 

[sloehawk]

Did Jake leave because of playing time or because he wanted to go to med school in Michigan?? I was arguing with some big wig at work about this the other day. Can't stand guys at work who think they are always right because of their job title so I let him have it. What's the message board consensus on why he left? I think I know it but need some reassurance.

Let's put it this way and end your argument with 100% clarity. IF Jake Rudock was Iowa's starting QB, he's attending all the same classes at the University of Iowa's Medical School.

 

[pocha444444]

I think Iowa has the better quarterback for Iowa, but in terms of NFL attritbutes, Jake Rudock has a bigger upside at this time. Give CJB another year to develop in the pocket and he could be the better prospect when comparing senior year to senior year. CJB makes people around him better, but Rudock can take advantage of talent and run an offense at a high level.

Lol

 

[TouchdownHawks]

Speaking in terms of "NFL speak" JR cannot make many of the throws needed to be playing on Sundays. The wind up long motion will not equate. His only hope is making it as a third option practice player because of his brain. I hope the best for the kid, but, he's benefitting from being a 5th ye senior and stud wideouts...

 

[swihawkeye]

Did Jake leave because of playing time or because he wanted to go to med school in Michigan?? I was arguing with some big wig at work about this the other day. Can't stand guys at work who think they are always right because of their job title so I let him have it. What's the message board consensus on why he left? I think I know it but need some reassurance.

I suspect he just likes to play football. He went where he could start, Michigan.

 

[UncleChesterton]

The most vocal detractors of Rudock in this thread keep referencing his last year at Iowa to prove their points. Should we make a thread for you guys about how Iowa looks pretty OK this year so you can point out all our disappointments in 2014?

 

[David1979]

I think Iowa has the better quarterback for Iowa, but in terms of NFL attritbutes, Jake Rudock has a bigger upside at this time. Give CJB another year to develop in the pocket and he could be the better prospect when comparing senior year to senior year. CJB makes people around him better, but Rudock can take advantage of talent and run an offense at a high level.

lol

 

[dciowa]

his ability to curl up in a ball at the slightest hint of a pass rush

THIS!

 

[David1979]

He had some really good games at Iowa as well against bad defenses. He was a solid QB at Iowa just like he is at Michigan. It was when he faced good teams that he usually looked horrible or teams that put a lot of pressure on him. With Iowa's running game this year I am sure he would have had a pretty decent year but Iowa wouldn't be 10-0.

 

[Hawked]

Let's put it this way and end your argument with 100% clarity. IF Jake Rudock was Iowa's starting QB, he's attending all the same classes at the University of Iowa's Medical School.

Haha. Yep. The big wig thought it was such a huge deal to go to Michigan's med school as opposed to Iowa's. I told him he was splitting hairs comparing the two but the way he talked he thought Michigan's med school was leaps and bounds better and one that you would leave your football team to attend if admitted. That's the part I didn't like. Oh, and him making triple my salary and not knowing what he was talking about.

 

[hawkifann]

I don't consider Ruddock a stud. He not only pouted after being replaced by cj in a game last season but also up and left after learning he wasn't going to be a starter any longer. Don't hate the guy or anything but cj was a tremendous upgrade at qb for the hawks and is the main reason the team is 10-0. Cj is the only stud of the two.

I think we're at a point where we can say that nobody really handled the QB situation well last year. There's some evidence that Rudock pouted. There's some evidence that CJ and/or his family may have threatened a transfer without a change. The coaching staff certainly did neither QB any favors last year by not addressing the situation early and clearly -- and then when he did address it, Kirk talked about a 2 QB system that he never really implemented. It was a mess. Beathard was clearly the right call for this Iowa offense and Rudock has worked out really well at Michigan.

The one point I'd challenge is the "up and left" comment. Talk to any competitive QB who has one year left if they'd rather be a backup at Iowa or a starter at Michigan and 99.99% will chose the starting role. What Rudock did was fine and shouldn't be a big surprise.

This season has been a HUGE win for all parties involved here.

 

[hawkifann]

Did Jake leave because of playing time or because he wanted to go to med school in Michigan?? I was arguing with some big wig at work about this the other day. Can't stand guys at work who think they are always right because of their job title so I let him have it. What's the message board consensus on why he left? I think I know it but need some reassurance.

Him playing at Michigan this year likely won't have a big role in whether he gets into Michigan's medical school. He might meet a couple people and all that, but he's not enrolled in Michigan's med school and his undergrad degree is not from Michigan. The med school application process is entirely separate and he'd be going through that this school year if he's targeting med school in 2016-2017. My best guess would be that he'd give the NFL a shot first and then apply next school year for 2017-2018 if he doesn't have the opportunity to play professionally.