Jake Rudock is kind of a stud.

[hawkifann]

Haha. Yep. The big wig thought it was such a huge deal to go to Michigan's med school as opposed to Iowa's. I told him he was splitting hairs comparing the two but the way he talked he thought Michigan's med school was leaps and bounds better and one that you would leave your football team to attend if admitted. That's the part I didn't like. Oh, and him making triple my salary and not knowing what he was talking about.

He's not in med school now and if he had stayed at Iowa, he wouldn't be in med school, either. Medical school is a total life-consuming endeavor....you could not keep your head above water in medical school while playing Division 1 football or, really, probably any varsity sport. The time and study demands in medical school are just a completely different level.

 

[rufus-hawk]

Haha. Yep. The big wig thought it was such a huge deal to go to Michigan's med school as opposed to Iowa's. I told him he was splitting hairs comparing the two but the way he talked he thought Michigan's med school was leaps and bounds better and one that you would leave your football team to attend if admitted. That's the part I didn't like. Oh, and him making triple my salary and not knowing what he was talking about.

Not to make too big a thing out of it, but while Iowa's med program is quite good, Michigan's Is one of the country's elite.

On a separate note, I am happy that Jake is doing well. I do think CJ has a better shot of playing in the NFL, though.

 

[milehighhawkeye24]

I always seem to get blasted on here when I can honestly say there was a legitimate QB battle last year and I had no problem with JR being our QB last year...especially after CJB did not do well in his only start against Purdue. With all that being said, I am not blind and could see a better upside with CJB and am obviously glad he is our QB now.....I just do not think he was quit ready last year and those that claim otherwise have no way to defend that because he really did not look sharp last year. I also think JR got way WAY too much blame last year, bc his stats last year were pretty darn good. He doesn't have the unmeasurable intangibles that CJB has but kuddos to the coaches for recruiting two (actually 3 with Sokol) D1 starting QB's

 

[citizenHawk]

Trying to imagine Rudock taking an NFL hit, or bouncing back from that hit.
Yeah, great year with UM for JR, but no way would he ever see the field in the NFL. His game lacks toughness, and he can't compensate for that with what he brings to the table.

 

[milehighhawkeye24]

Trying to imagine Rudock taking an NFL hit, or bouncing back from that hit.
Yeah, great year with UM for JR, but no way would he ever see the field in the NFL. His game lacks toughness, and he can't compensate for that with what he brings to the table.

IDK if it is toughness he lacks, he looked pretty tough carrying the offense the last 2 weeks. I think what he lacks is leadership, which is unfortunate because from all accounts he seems like a nice young man. He does have this arrogant demeanor that just seems off and probably rubs many teammates the wrong way....obviously the opposite for CJB, players want to play with and for him...JR has good offensive command, accurate, strong enough arm, plays pretty clutch, I think the bring other teammates with him is what he is missing IMO...

 

[citizenHawk]

Physical toughness. He can't play after being punched---and he's likely to be out of the game if any DE gets a shot at him. Combine that with no size, quickness, or escapability, and you have a big liability on your salary cap.

 

[FranklinHawk]

What? Seriously? This must be one of those "because Jim Harbaugh says so" deals.

I can 100% GUARANTEE you Iowa is NOT 10-0 with Jake Rudock as our starting QB. No way in hell does that transpire. I would go so far as to say we aren't even ranked as of this date. And it isn't because I think Rudock is terrible, he isn't, but what he is not is a Playmaker, and Iowa's playmaking QB has us at 10-0 because he uummmm...... makes plays when it really matters..........Jake Rudock made plays against Ball State to pull us out of a deficit he helped create. That's the difference in those 2 QB's.

Let me remind you James Vandenberg was invited to an NFL Camp as a Free Agent. If he could be, so could Rudock, but at the end of the day they'll both make far more money doing whatever it is they do that doesn't pertain to Football.

I LOVE CJ at the QB spot this year, but isn't it time for you to admit that it's killing you that Iowa is 10-0 and Kirk might get even the smallest amount of credit for that? These continued wins must be tearing you up inside, doesn't fit your "FIRE Kirk" mentality at all.

 

[1971hawkeye]

Jake is OK at iowa and good at Mich. Just think if CJ went to Michigan and Jake was at Iowa still. Michigan would be #1 and we would have 4 losses minimum. Carry on....

 

[greenelite]

Rudock will not get more than a cup of coffee in the NFL. CJ will be a starter at some point in his career.

 

[1971hawkeye]

I wouldn't go so far as a cup of coffee, maybe a Mt dew, it's cheaper than water when buying in bulk.

 

[Herkmeister]

777 yards, 8 TD's 1 Int. in the last two games!

Don't get me wrong. I think Iowa has the better QB but I think that there was a surplus of talent and that these two guys needed to be handed a team and told to get it done with no drama.

Two Iowa QB's running two top 15 teams! Wild times, people....

I will NEVER use stud and Jake R. In a sentence again. NEVER!!!!!

 

[1971hawkeye]

Honestly, I have no hard feelings against Jake. Just didn't work out at iowa. We were a 6 or 7 win team with him, possibly less this year. I'm glad he left or we wouldn't be in the position we are today. If there is anyone that thinks otherwise, you got some white and grey matter missing. Jake got the keys to recievers that are NFL caliber. A WINNING NFL HEAD COACH and staff that is heads and shoulders above most college football, but yet...It's Jake that deserves all the credit?

CJ doesn't deserve all the credit either however, like I said, rolls reversed CJ and Mich is undefeated and #1 in the polls. Iowa isn't even ranked and we're all calling for kirk behind still...and most likely gonna get it soon.

 

[SingaporeHawk]

777 yards, 8 TD's 1 Int. in the last two games!

Don't get me wrong. I think Iowa has the better QB but I think that there was a surplus of talent and that these two guys needed to be handed a team and told to get it done with no drama.

Two Iowa QB's running two top 15 teams! Wild times, people....

I might have gotten this wrong, but, of all the history of Michigan and its quarterbacks, I think he set the single game record for touchdowns for a quarterback. Is that correct.

 

[icantfindausernamethatisntused]

Honestly, I have no hard feelings against Jake. Just didn't work out at iowa. We were a 6 or 7 win team with him, possibly less this year. I'm glad he left or we wouldn't be in the position we are today. If there is anyone that thinks otherwise, you got some white and grey matter missing. Jake got the keys to recievers that are NFL caliber. A WINNING NFL HEAD COACH and staff that is heads and shoulders above most college football, but yet...It's Jake that deserves all the credit?

CJ doesn't deserve all the credit either however, like I said, rolls reversed CJ and Mich is undefeated and #1 in the polls. Iowa isn't even ranked and we're all calling for kirk behind still...and most likely gonna get it soon.

We won 8 games with Jake two years ago, and won 7 last year. This year's team has a much improved running game from either of those seasons and also has a much improved defense from last year. In no world would this year's team finish with only 6 or 7 wins with Rudock.

Are you really calling for the head coach's job for the 5th ranked team in the country that is 10-0?

It's pathetic to spew this kind of negativity.

 

[Phenomenally Frantastic]

but in terms of NFL attritbutes, Jake Rudock has a bigger upside at this time.

Care to make a wager?

 

[Phenomenally Frantastic]

Did Jake leave because of playing time or because he wanted to go to med school in Michigan?? I was arguing with some big wig at work about this the other day. Can't stand guys at work who think they are always right because of their job title so I let him have it. What's the message board consensus on why he left? I think I know it but need some reassurance.

afraid of competition and a bad teammate that bailed on his team.

 

[greenelite]

Care to make a wager?

Yeah, what a horrible opinion. This guy clearly struggles with talent evaluation. There is literally nothing that Rudock can do that CJ doesn't do better except for maybe the automatic check down.

 

[Phenomenally Frantastic]

Rudock is a stud, may be an NFL prospect.

go home, you're drunk

 

[greenelite]

I just want to remind everyone that I was the first person on here to call for Beathard to start and the first person on here to label him an NFL talent. You can all like this comment in appreciation of my football genius. Thank you.

Edit: I was also the first person on here to call for Stanzi to start.

One can learn a lot from the spring game, particularly with QBs.

 

[Nicretzlaff]

777 yards, 8 TD's 1 Int. in the last two games!

Don't get me wrong. I think Iowa has the better QB but I think that there was a surplus of talent and that these two guys needed to be handed a team and told to get it done with no drama.

Two Iowa QB's running two top 15 teams! Wild times, people....

6TD's and 440 yards in a 2OT GAME LAST WEEK SO THAT ACCOUNTS FOR VIRTUALLY ALL THE SCORING. I posted before... Before that game against Indiana Rudock has 8 passing and 4 rushing TD compared to 7 INT! Terrible. That one game brought his new total up to 14 passing and 4 rushing TD with 7 INTehixh looks much better but was an abnormality. 64.2 comp% , 2,220 yards passing, and 144 yds rushing.

He's not that good. Cj has 10 passing- 6 rushing TD's and only 3 INT. 61% completion%, 2,044 yards passing and 268 yards rushing. Would bet my life the numbers are better without the exploded groin he been dealing with all year. But I do believe it's making him a better player.

Jakes stats are close but he doesn't have leadership and the all important "IT".

 

[FranklinHawk]

Hmmm, is Herby back?

 

[HawktimusPrime]

go home, you're drunk

He may actually get a look to be honest. I don't think he makes it there, but he's warranted a look at least.

 

[ghostOfHomer777]

I saw Jake Rudock "drop back" a lot at Iowa. Those 3 yard check down passes were a thing of beauty, as was his ability to curl up in a ball at the slightest hint of a pass rush. You can crown Rudock all you want. I refuse to, because of what I saw with my own two eyes.

Maybe he's had a complete transformation, and will take the NFL by storm. But if he didn't, he'd do well to keep going to class.

What Jake Rudock were you watching back in 2013? We had a pretty good season then ... and he was a significant contributor to that.

What's laughable about what a lot of folks are posting here is that Rudock did a great job getting the Hawks in the correct play too. Furthermore, Jake was pretty decent at using his legs too in order to make first downs.

What hurt Iowa, with respect to Rudock, was that QB competition between Rudock and Beathard eventually split the locker room. A team divided is only half a team ... and you cannot consistently win that way. And we didn't!

Despite having a head start on Beathard, Rudock couldn't win the starting gig outright ... and our O was limited by his tentativeness to throw the ball downfield. At Iowa, he was poor at improvisation ... and he was at his best when the O was "on schedule." When Iowa was behind schedule ... it was a near impossibility for us to convert on 3rd downs.

Anyhow, the truth of the matter is that Rudock is proving that he is a high-quality Power 5 conference QB. This very fact probably pisses off the anti-Ferentz crowd to no end .... they want to able to point out how obvious it was that the coaches screwed up in their personnel choices. It turns out that Ferentz and co really did have a terribly hard decision to make.

 

[TouchdownHawks]

What Jake Rudock were you watching back in 2013? We had a pretty good season then ... and he was a significant contributor to that.

What's laughable about what a lot of folks are posting here is that Rudock did a great job getting the Hawks in the correct play too. Furthermore, Jake was pretty decent at using his legs too in order to make first downs.

What hurt Iowa, with respect to Rudock, was that QB competition between Rudock and Beathard eventually split the locker room. A team divided is only half a team ... and you cannot consistently win that way. And we didn't!

Despite having a head start on Beathard, Rudock couldn't win the starting gig outright ... and our O was limited by his tentativeness to throw the ball downfield. At Iowa, he was poor at improvisation ... and he was at his best when the O was "on schedule." When Iowa was behind schedule ... it was a near impossibility for us to convert on 3rd downs.

Anyhow, the truth of the matter is that Rudock is proving that he is a high-quality Power 5 conference QB. This very fact probably pisses off the anti-Ferentz crowd to no end .... they want to able to point out how obvious it was that the coaches screwed up in their personnel choices. It turns out that Ferentz and co really did have a terribly hard decision to make.

 

[milehighhawkeye24]

What Jake Rudock were you watching back in 2013? We had a pretty good season then ... and he was a significant contributor to that.

What's laughable about what a lot of folks are posting here is that Rudock did a great job getting the Hawks in the correct play too. Furthermore, Jake was pretty decent at using his legs too in order to make first downs.

What hurt Iowa, with respect to Rudock, was that QB competition between Rudock and Beathard eventually split the locker room. A team divided is only half a team ... and you cannot consistently win that way. And we didn't!

Despite having a head start on Beathard, Rudock couldn't win the starting gig outright ... and our O was limited by his tentativeness to throw the ball downfield. At Iowa, he was poor at improvisation ... and he was at his best when the O was "on schedule." When Iowa was behind schedule ... it was a near impossibility for us to convert on 3rd downs.

Anyhow, the truth of the matter is that Rudock is proving that he is a high-quality Power 5 conference QB. This very fact probably pisses off the anti-Ferentz crowd to no end .... they want to able to point out how obvious it was that the coaches screwed up in their personnel choices. It turns out that Ferentz and co really did have a terribly hard decision to make.

Throw in a talented Sokol and now we have ourselves a QB battle....I agree that most anti KF are bummed that there actually was a QB battle last year, maybe they should give Kirk and co some credit for being able to evaluate and more importantly get 3 D1 QB's on campus

 

[ggoblue]

I might have gotten this wrong, but, of all the history of Michigan and its quarterbacks, I think he set the single game record for touchdowns for a quarterback. Is that correct.

With 2 to spare.

 

[Phenomenally Frantastic]

let's revisit this thread after the Michigan/Ohio State game, shall we?

 

[cg8284]

I'm really confused on some of you thinking that Rudock will be good in the NFL. Look up the QB prospect lists and find one that even lists him. I can't and some of these list 25-30 QBs for the 2016 draft. If he gets a free agent signing let alone drafted I would be surprised. Citing his one game records as a reason to rank him high for the draft shows some of you don't really understand what's going on. By this reasoning you would put Matt Flynn as a top 10 NFL QB. I'll just attribute this to some of you not watching much NFL football.

 

[MepoDawg#]

Take a look at JR's numbers without the last 2 games or even without the last game. Middle of the pack B1G qb, nothing special and CJ is better no doubt. Iowa needs someone who can make plays not a game manager to be able to take the next step. JR is fine if you want continued 6-8 wins seasons, but to win more you need someone more like CJ, a playmaker.

 

[hawkifann]

Not one person in this thread has argued that Rudock would be better for Iowa this year or that he's going to be any kind of a top NFL pick. He's having a good season and he's going to have a chance to play at the next level if he pursues it. Plenty of QBs worse than him have stuck in the NFL for 3-5 years.

 

[kzoohawk80]

I might have gotten this wrong, but, of all the history of Michigan and its quarterbacks, I think he set the single game record for touchdowns for a quarterback. Is that correct.

You know you want to use the whole history argument you should get your facts straight. You know he threw 2 tds in OT right? So how many Michigan QB'S have thrown 4 tds in regulation in Michigan history. I bet it's a long list. You know games ended in ties before they introduced overtime right?

 

[MTHawkeyes43]

There are too many throws that Jake cannot make in the college game. With the hash marks set closer in the pro game Jake does not have enough arm strength to make the throws that a pro qb needs to be able to make. On the other hand, CJB can make all of the throws because he has outstanding arm strength/ball velocity and he makes big plays in big situations. Factor in his toughness and willingness to stand tall in the pocket and Iowa has a QB that has pro potential.

 

[1971hawkeye]

Greenelite, I was before you...look it up. Stanzi too....
Maybe you were first, but that's because I'm not on the boards 24-7

 

[icantfindausernamethatisntused]

Greenelite, I was before you...look it up. Stanzi too....
Maybe you were first, but that's because I'm not on the boards 24-7

Are you two sure you beat out stevenpatrick?

 

[Phenomenally Frantastic]

if you think Rudock is an NFL QB you should refrain from any future discussions regarding QB play or who should start. just don't even say anything ever again, your opinion ain't worth dirt.

 

[IaHawk44]

http://www.hawkcentral.com/story/sp.../drew-ott-thought-jake-rudock-fight/25830489/

777 yards, 8 TD's 1 Int. in the last two games!

Don't get me wrong. I think Iowa has the better QB but I think that there was a surplus of talent and that these two guys needed to be handed a team and told to get it done with no drama.

Two Iowa QB's running two top 15 teams! Wild times, people....

I think the biggest difference between the two is their leadership abilities, CJ seems to be the better leader of the two.

 

[cg8284]

Not one person in this thread has argued that Rudock would be better for Iowa this year or that he's going to be any kind of a top NFL pick. He's having a good season and he's going to have a chance to play at the next level if he pursues it. Plenty of QBs worse than him have stuck in the NFL for 3-5 years.

Like who?

 

[icantfindausernamethatisntused]

Like who?

Well Brian Hoyer completed 51% of his passes, along with 9 touchdowns and 9 interceptions his senior year and is currently in his 7th year in the NFL.

I don't expect Jake to ever make an NFL team, but given his solid stats throughout his college career, I wouldn't completely rule it out either.

 

[hawkifann]

Like who?

Just from Big Ten alums off the top of my head, I think Jake's skill set is either better than or in the ballpark of Ricky Stanzi, Jim Sorgi, Matt McGloin, Trevor Siemien (currently Denver's #2), Curtis Painter, Mike Kafka. Jake's game potentially translates better to the NFL than Troy Smith's ever did. Looking beyond those guys, I'd say he's not that far off guys like Chase Daniel.

I've never claimed he's going to be a star, but he could absolutely get a shot in the right system with the right coach and stick on a roster for a few years.

 

[UncleChesterton]

Take a look at JR's numbers without the last 2 games or even without the last game. Middle of the pack B1G qb, nothing special and CJ is better no doubt. Iowa needs someone who can make plays not a game manager to be able to take the next step. JR is fine if you want continued 6-8 wins seasons, but to win more you need someone more like CJ, a playmaker.

I think we should count all of his games, especially since he seems to be getting stronger. All the games is probably a more complete picture than some of them, excluding his best, mmmkay? He's playing like a playmaker right now, going into the the meat of their season. Were it not for their punter, Rudock would have sat back and watched win #8 on his way to #9 the week after.

You know, we don't have to denigrate Rudock because he's not Beathard, right? They exist independently.