Dudley Blackwell likely to commit to Iowa State this afternoon. We will see what impact, if any, that has on Foster.
Does Fran actively recruit Indian Hills? I wonder why we don't seem to have much of a connection there.
Fran has landed plenty of “big fish”. Garza, Cook and Weiscamp come to mind.Ugh. I wanna say here we go again. Let’s hope there is not a meltdown here if and when Fran doesn’t land Sibley or Foster. The trend is your friend as they say, and Fran’s trend has been to not be able to land the big fish. Either of these young men would be a great get, but so would’ve been Murrell, Crowl, or Gordon (not to mention Jackson).
Perhaps the “culture” to which Gordon apparently didn’t fit in with is what will keep other above average recruits away as well.
Prove me wrong Fran. Please.
Fran has landed plenty of “big fish”. Garza, Cook and Weiscamp come to mind.
Who is the highest rated player we have brought in say, post Dr Tom? Tyler Cook? Tyler Smith?
mix Woodbury in and that sounds about right. Recker is if you include his high school rankingWho is the highest rated player we have brought in say, post Dr Tom? Tyler Cook? Tyler Smith?
In the internet recruiting era 1-10 isWho is the highest rated player we have brought in say, post Dr Tom? Tyler Cook? Tyler Smith?
I guess we disagree on what “plenty” means. Let’s face it, even Underwood at Illinois in his short time there has landed more highly rated recruits.Fran has landed plenty of “big fish”. Garza, Cook and Weiscamp come to mind.
Nothing wrong with that strategy to build and sustain a program. I think Fran has been doing exactly that since he got here. Unfortunately just not doing it very well.I guess it depends on your view of a "big fish." Were any of those guys Top 50? I think that's what most people mean.
Personally, I don't think Fran should worry about the Top 50 unless there is strong mutual interest by the other party. Most those guys are 1-2 year players and Iowa is not a program that can constantly reload.
Fran would be better off pounding the pavement for the Top 75-125. Good solid players who could develop into stars by the time their upperclassmen.
I guess it depends on your view of a "big fish." Were any of those guys Top 50? I think that's what most people mean.
Personally, I don't think Fran should worry about the Top 50 unless there is strong mutual interest by the other party. Most those guys are 1-2 year players and Iowa is not a program that can constantly reload.
Fran would be better off pounding the pavement for the Top 75-125. Good solid players who could develop into stars by the time their upperclassmen.
Nothing wrong with that strategy to build and sustain a program. I think Fran has been doing exactly that since he got here. Unfortunately just not doing it very well.
Woodbury, Cook, Garza, and Wieskamp weren't big fish? It seems to me they had some pretty good options.
He has very similar results to post Raveling recruits Tom Davis.
I guess we disagree on what “plenty” means. Let’s face it, even Underwood at Illinois in his short time there has landed more highly rated recruits.
There’s nothing wrong with wanting more out of a coach and his program this far into a tenure.
I guess we disagree on what “plenty” means. Let’s face it, even Underwood at Illinois in his short time there has landed more highly rated recruits.
There’s nothing wrong with wanting more out of a coach and his program this far into a tenure.
Actually no, Illinois basketball is not really good. Underwood seems to be putting together a pretty good roster in a short time, like my post said. Dosunmu is only player that matters for them from Chicago. And if we are still using the same excuse from 30 years ago as to why we can’t get good recruits then I feel we may need a better recruiter.You do realize that Illinois basketball is really good and they always get a few top kids from Chicago annually. Iowa has had a hard time recruiting the Chicago area since Bruce Pearl's screw up with Thompson. High School coaches black balled us for years. We did get Moss a few years ago but he was their #5 or 6 player on the team. Fran actually did some good things with Isaiah, now Kansas gets his senior year.
Underwood got put between a rock and a hard place the 2018 Cycle being forced to basically pick what side he was going to take in the Horton-Tucker vs Dosunmu drama. Basically he had to tell THT and Simion HS that he was not taking both of them just Ayo and The Mac Irving Fire. Underwood pissed off the best HS in Chicago to make the biggest AAU Team in Chicago happy. It got ugly.You do realize that Illinois basketball is really good and they always get a few top kids from Chicago annually. Iowa has had a hard time recruiting the Chicago area since Bruce Pearl's screw up with Thompson. High School coaches black balled us for years. We did get Moss a few years ago but he was their #5 or 6 player on the team. Fran actually did some good things with Isaiah, now Kansas gets his senior year.
Agree with nearly everything here Dan. A certain % of our fan base doesn't seem to understand why Fran doesn't simply load up with athlete's. When it comes to instate recruits Fran still has strict character standards. There were at least a couple of Top 150 types he backed away from. I'm not positive on names, but one was Myles, and another from Western Iowa soon after he got the job.
Agree with nearly everything here Dan. A certain % of our fan base doesn't seem to understand why Fran doesn't simply load up with athlete's. When it comes to instate recruits Fran still has strict character standards. There were at least a couple of Top 150 types he backed away from. I'm not positive on names, but one was Myles, and another from Western Iowa soon after he got the job.
Spot on. The Administration gives him zero latitude on gambling with players that are citizenship or PC risks.
I see what you did there.Thank you for starting a new thread on this.
How'd that turn out?
Damn I guess Iowa State really wasn't Thug Transfer U.How'd that turn out?
He never played a day for Iowa, though. Yeah, we really thought he'd end up at IA State. You must have been out of scholarships...
L.O.L.Damn I guess Iowa State really wasn't Thug Transfer U.
I guess we disagree on what “plenty” means. Let’s face it, even Underwood at Illinois in his short time there has landed more highly rated recruits.
There’s nothing wrong with wanting more out of a coach and his program this far into a tenure.
I guess we disagree on what “plenty” means. Let’s face it, even Underwood at Illinois in his short time there has landed more highly rated recruits.
There’s nothing wrong with wanting more out of a coach and his program this far into a tenure.
He's talking about expectations/records, not recruiting classes.Cool.
So tell me..... when was it that Iowa was landing more top 100-150 level players?
I'm just excited to see them getting some again.
Unlike IA State fans, I am not worried about an AD that expects their coaches to recruit good student-athletes.You realize that's one person 9 recruiting classes ago; hence the zero latitude in 2019-8 years later. Moreover, that one guy you found from 2011 was kicked off the team before he was enrolled in school I think. He never suited up.
In the present world, not 8 years ago, the Iowa Administration is hostile to men's athletics and imposes various restrictions on recruiting guys that might need a second chance-they're just not getting it at Iowa. Unnecessarily rigid on academic waivers as well.
I don't agree with that culture and the social justice idiocy by which it is informed but it is a very real problem at the U of Iowa.
How does this have any bearing on ISU improving their bball team with questionable character guys?Damn I guess Iowa State really wasn't Thug Transfer U.
In the internet recruiting era 1-10 is
1) Tyler Smith
2) Adam Woodbury
3) Joe Wieskamp
4) Tyler Cook
5) Pat McCaffery
6) Mike Gesell
7) Matt Gatens
8) Alex Thompson
9) R.J. Angle
10) Luka Garza
Actually no, Illinois basketball is not really good. Underwood seems to be putting together a pretty good roster in a short time, like my post said. Dosunmu is only player that matters for them from Chicago. And if we are still using the same excuse from 30 years ago as to why we can’t get good recruits then I feel we may need a better recruiter.
Then tell us who the viable better coach/recruiter Iowa can bring in? I ask this all the time but I don’t ever get an answer. People just want to throw that out like it’s magically easy to do. If you want to bring in someone like a Bruce Pearl that everyone knows is cheating, then fine but better be fine with the possible consequences.
Nor will you ever get an answer to this question.
Iswho players are often quite thuggish.Damn I guess Iowa State really wasn't Thug Transfer U.