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Jamari Sibley

You realize that's one person 9 recruiting classes ago; hence the zero latitude in 2019-8 years later. Moreover, that one guy you found from 2011 was kicked off the team before he was enrolled in school I think. He never suited up.

In the present world, not 8 years ago, the Iowa Administration is hostile to men's athletics and imposes various restrictions on recruiting guys that might need a second chance-they're just not getting it at Iowa. Unnecessarily rigid on academic waivers as well.

I don't agree with that culture and the social justice idiocy by which it is informed but it is a very real problem at the U of Iowa.
The guy didn't even get on the team, weird situation, and no Iowa fans really wanted that problem. He was back home before he was even on the team. I do believe the guy turned his life around though and has been ok since his youth.
 
Per ESPN Top 100 players since 2002 signing period
Tyler Smith 24
TC 38
Woody 39
Pierre Pierce 42
Adam Haluska 50
Jeff Horner 57
P McC 64
Greg Bruner 72
Mikey G 75
Joey W 77
Ute 90
Connor McC 92
Matt Gatens 99
Luka Garza 100

Of the 14, all four no five stars on ESPN, 5 Alford recruits, 1 Lick recruit and 8 McC recruits. McC has certainly done more with his than his predecessors did with theirs.

Who had Alex Thompson in the top 100? Saw a 123 on 247, and archives are incomplete. That kid was a dufus with a bad attitude.


So clearly Fran has out-recruited his two immediate coaching predecessors, by a lot.

It's funny how a certain segment of our fanbase can't seem to come to grips with that reality.
 
His 2 predecessors sucked, so there is that. I like Fran but he does have to do a better job with recruiting and closing on some big recruits, we are not going to get to a final 4 with the guys he keeps pulling in, IMHO.
 

Go back and look at some Alford and Lick classes. Alford had as many signs never play a minute at Iowa as played a traditional 8 consecutive semester career. The Lick recruits speak for themselves.

We all want better players but McC has produced a better recruiting history, a much better recruiting trajectory and better results on the court than his two predecessors. Each of the predecessors left a much worse situation: Alford inherited a very solid B+ program coming off a Sweet 16. Lickliter inherited a program in freefall. McC had to clean off the corpse and fill in the hole where the freefall hit the parking lot before he could even begin selling good players on Iowa.
 
Go back and look at some Alford and Lick classes. Alford had as many signs never play a minute at Iowa as played a traditional 8 consecutive semester career. The Lick recruits speak for themselves.

We all want better players but McC has produced a better recruiting history, a much better recruiting trajectory and better results on the court than his two predecessors. Each of the predecessors left a much worse situation: Alford inherited a very solid B+ program coming off a Sweet 16. Lickliter inherited a program in freefall. McC had to clean off the corpse and fill in the hole where the freefall hit the parking lot before he could even begin selling good players on Iowa.
Alford inherited a junior Dean Oliver and that is it. Tom had 7 seniors to lead Iowa to the Sweet 16. If you recall, Settles finished his 12th year that year. Alford got Rob Griffin for sure and I really don't recall a lot of relevance beyond one year of Griffin and Oliver.
 
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Alford inherited a junior Dean Oliver and that is it. Tom had 7 seniors to lead Iowa to the Sweet 16. If you recall, Settles finished his 12th year that year. Alford got Rob Griffin for sure and I really don't recall a lot of relevance beyond one year of Griffin and Oliver.
He said "program", not team/players. The program was in a great place following Lute, George and Dr. Tom. All are legends among basketball coaches. Alford dragged the program into the mud and Lickliter wallowed in it. All McC has done is bring it back to a respectable level. Still more mountain to climb.
 
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Alford inherited a junior Dean Oliver and that is it. Tom had 7 seniors to lead Iowa to the Sweet 16. If you recall, Settles finished his 12th year that year. Alford got Rob Griffin for sure and I really don't recall a lot of relevance beyond one year of Griffin and Oliver.

As I've previously asked others, don't you think it is much easier to sell a recruit on a program coming off a Sweet 16 than the mess Alford left? Also, junior Dean Oliver and junior and starter on Alford's only NCAA winning team Duez Henderson.

Rob Griffin...the quintessential Alford recruit. Only eligible one season. Let's not forget the Joe Fermino experiment. Another Alford guy that could only stay eligible one season. Kind of started the carousel that became the Alford/Lickliter rosters.
 
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McC had to clean off the corpse and fill in the hole where the freefall hit the parking lot before he could even begin selling good players on Iowa.

Which would have made a class like this excusable early in the Fran era.

In year 10, a class with Iowa being the only P6 offers for the entire class shouldn't happen and this excuse doesn't fly anymore.
 
Which would have made a class like this excusable early in the Fran era.

In year 10, a class with Iowa being the only P6 offers for the entire class shouldn't happen and this excuse doesn't fly anymore.
Ulis has a DePaul offer. They are a P6 Team on the rise. They will be a tough out this season for most teams. Their talent level is somewhat close to Iowa's. With DePaul being my 2nd Team behind ISU I can't wait to take in my 1st game in Carver to watch them play. May be the only chance I get in my life since I won't be driving to Chicago to watch them play ever. Should be a hell of a game.
 
Ulis has a DePaul offer. They are a P6 Team on the rise. They will be a tough out this season for most teams. Their talent level is somewhat close to Iowa's. With DePaul being my 2nd Team behind ISU I can't wait to take in my 1st game in Carver to watch them play. May be the only chance I get in my life since I won't be driving to Chicago to watch them play ever. Should be a hell of a game.

I've never heard the phrase "on the rise" associated with a team that has finished last in their conference for 3 straight seasons.
 
Ulis has a DePaul offer. They are a P6 Team on the rise. They will be a tough out this season for most teams. Their talent level is somewhat close to Iowa's. With DePaul being my 2nd Team behind ISU I can't wait to take in my 1st game in Carver to watch them play. May be the only chance I get in my life since I won't be driving to Chicago to watch them play ever. Should be a hell of a game.

I posted this on the pay board this AM when someone said DePaul was a decent offer:

DePaul is 48-82 the past 4 years and has not won 20 games in a season since 2006-2007.

They have finished above .500 one time in the past 12 seasons.
 
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