Maybe Fran can recruit some guys down at the local YMCA. I've been on some putrid pickup teams, but even the worst scrubs can usually talk one down with some help from the backboard.
Jbo, ulis, joe t
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How about guards who can shoot the 3? That is a must in today's game.
The defense isn't necessarily the problem with Ulis and Toussaint. It's more about discipline and fundamentals with them. Not taking so many risks and allowing themselves to get out of position.
And then of course, there's the two foul rule...........but then again, refs also know this so any of them with an axe to grind with Fran (which, I mean........) will and have been calling things tighter in the 1st half and that puts some of our key players on the bench before they can even contribute. See Keegan.
I'm sure it was a shot. I haven't watched every game but it seems like J-Bo is shooting more air balls than I have ever seen out of a college basketball player.
He's like the Rob Deer of college basketball. He's really good at one or two things, but they're not enough to overcome the fact that the rest of his game is garbage.
I haven't seen an update in Fran's record in close games....It was atrocious before JBO/Garza class. The inside/outside game of JBO/Garza led to a a few years of decent close game performance with JBO a FT closer.
Fran has long history of sticking with things that don't work.
Penn State probably uses a different brand of basketball.. JBo has ALWAYS been a defensive liability and has never been able to handle in your face pressure defense. Hip surgeries have made it worse, but he never could stop anyone from taking him to the hole.
I just hate that no one in post game is bringing up this guard play. It’s key to why they lost today and the journalist are all like aw gee sorry for the lost Fran. How would you like to spin it?
It will never happen because they can’t hurt anyones feelings but how great would it be if someone point blank asked Fran why jblow is even playing.
Maybe if we put the five best basketball players on the court instead of the guys with the best “attitude” we wouldn’t drop games to one of the worst teams in the conference
Goes with the territory of forcing low percentage shots which is pretty much his entire repertoire.
You're giving Bohannon too much credit.
It was the outside game of Weiskamp and Fredrick.
Did he actually say this?
Floor presence? Attitude? WTF?
Im sure Joe and Tony watching him play 35 unproductive minutes really helps with chemistry.
Well now we know what we've long suspected that tangible production isn't the criteria for minutes, its Frans imagination that counts.
What a fcking tool.
When Keegan has touched the ball the last three or four games, results have not always been great. The kid's in a slump, at least partly because the wrong guys are with him on the court, so the opposition can triple team him. That's a tough gig for anybody.
And that's why I said a couple weeks ago the starting lineup should be:
Keegan
PMac
Kris
Joe T
Sandfort
Bench, in order, depending on matchups: Rebraca, Perkins, Ulis, JBo, CMac, Josh O
But as some of us have said, Fran is as stubborn as KF. He keeps doing the same things and hoping for better results. Just execute, fellas! LOL
Well, this roster clearly has its limitations, but compare it to, say, Wisconsin. I'm not sure there's a great deal of difference in talent, but look at the difference in the results. And it's that way just about every season. Maybe it really is the coaching. The evidence would seem to support that theory.
And that's why I said a couple weeks ago the starting lineup should be:
Keegan
PMac
Kris
Joe T
Sandfort
Bench, in order, depending on matchups: Rebraca, Perkins, Ulis, JBo, CMac, Josh O
But as some of us have said, Fran is as stubborn as KF. He keeps doing the same things and hoping for better results. Just execute, fellas! LOL
Well, this roster clearly has its limitations, but compare it to, say, Wisconsin. I'm not sure there's a great deal of difference in talent, but look at the difference in the results. And it's that way just about every season. Maybe it really is the coaching. The evidence would seem to support that theory.
It is almost impossible, I can't say it's impossible because Fran has done it, to have this many guards with no offensive skills. I don't know what these guys do in practice, but it's clearly not work on their shots.
Agree. Fran is the problem. He is a mediocre coach and a worse recruiter. When you can't recruit the caliber of players necessary to offset your crap coaching, you get what we have at Iowa. A clown making almost 3 million dollars.
I’m going against the grain here, but I think the issue is more of development, not recruiting.
What guards have gotten significantly better under Fran? He develops forwards and posts quite well. But guards? Nah, horrible at it.
What guards have gotten significantly better under Fran? He develops forwards and posts quite well. But guards? Nah, horrible at it.
Ironic that White Magic is White Tragic when it comes to recruiting guards. I would opt for picking names out of a hat over having Fran or his two yes men assistants offering another scholarship. Oh I know, just wait until Bowen gets here and things will be different.
He doesn't make as many mistakes as you would like to believe. And he has a better 3 point %, way better FG %, is the team assist leader, as well as leader in steals. And although Jordan is at 88% shotting free throws, Joe is 82%, which is more than adequate given the lack of production on the defensive side of the ball with Jordan. This was said to be his team to run, let him do it.
You are correct. I've heard that Fran has an almost maniacal emphasis on defense in practice. You think defense like that just happens my man?
I almost wonder if, due to Fran’s playing days as a guard who could pass but not score, he thinks that it’s the “right” way to play the position, and wants the same from his point guards now. It seems like the emphasis is more on getting wings/bigs looks/assists without turning it over and less on scoring. Gesell, Cartwright, Bohannon, and now Ulis/Toussaint all had great assist numbers and low scoring totals (except for Bohannon, largely due to his shooting ability). As we know from guys like Carsen Edwards, Ayo Dosunmu, Johnny Davis, Cassius Winston, Duane Washington, Jordan Poole, etc and their teams (just from the past few years), winning in the Big Ten and beyond requires elite and well rounded guard play that Iowa never seems to have. We have passers/playmakers but that’s it
By the way, Toussaint should be a better scorer and north of 10 ppg but has been reigned in by Fran, in my opinion
Well, it's likely both recruiting and development.
By the time these kids have finished HS, they have played in a a thousand games - and that's not counting pick up games. Once they get to college, it's more about physical development than it is skill development IMO.
If you simply LOOK at this team compared to most in the B1G it's a mismatch.
p.s. Which is the bigger shocker - guards go 0-18? Or, the fact that they almost won with that?
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I didn’t say I agreed with Fran, quite the contrary. I’d have played JoeT too for all the reasons I’d not play Bohannon. I just wanted to give the coach an out for doing what he might think as a reason. I’d still disagree with his reasoning and agree with you, play JoeT!!! I may have paired him with Perkins or my personal preference Peyton Sandfort. Need a bigger guard in there at one position not both Joe and Jordan
You deserve more than a like. Agree with your assessment, sprinkle in a Big to see what they can and can’t handle. Time to also think about next season. Not giving up this year but if we continue with the plan we have used so far we will come up short I think
At this point there is no "Fran strategy" at play IMO. He is a terrible recruiter who ends up offering his 5th or 8th option at the guard spots. Yes he found White and Garza and had the good fortune of Kenyon being an ex-Hawk to have the luxury of not 1 but 2 super talented kids, but it's another Fran team of 2 -3 guys plus very limited inconsistent role guys that regress year after year.
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