I’d love to get an Eastern Turd U sweatshirt. Turd is a funny word.
JESS SAID IT BEST - THE PROBLEM WITH CHA
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I don't care for ISU, but I'd rather attend a game at Hilton than Carver. It is not even comparable. Not the Hilton is the bees knees, but it is loud, fewer blue hairs knitting in the lower seats, and easy in and out
That's pretty unlikely to happen almost every year.
Yeah, that could work if there is enough room, and it would solve the parking problem being so close to Hancher. According to Google Maps it houses the Iowa Dept of Theatre, which would have to relocated - might end up building another building in that case.
But, it's still not downtown. It's probably easier for students to get to than Carver, but it's not close to restaurants and bars.
Still, it's likely a pipe dream unless it can be combined with something.
Like - the Iowa Memorial Union! The last time I was in it (probably 10 years ago) it was kind of a dump.
The food options are horrid. It’s like from a 1990s movie theatre but likely all that cheap food got much more unhealthy over the last decades.
In Madison you can get a legit quality burger. The options should at least be on par to what some hockey arenas can offer. Well Fargo or Iowa cubs have some variety ant least.
Enough of this volunteers only concessions, this isn’t high school.
Having some beer variety is pretty cool though. But maybe let some food trucks sit near by if they’re not going to make an effort to bring this up to standards of other big ten schools.
In Madison you can get a legit quality burger. The options should at least be on par to what some hockey arenas can offer. Well Fargo or Iowa cubs have some variety ant least.
Enough of this volunteers only concessions, this isn’t high school.
Having some beer variety is pretty cool though. But maybe let some food trucks sit near by if they’re not going to make an effort to bring this up to standards of other big ten schools.
Iowa hasn’t been a big time basketball school (for the men) since the turn of the century.
I wondered about the idea of lowering the floor so the the court side seats were actually court side, and then cutting luxury suites into the top sections on each side. The blue hairs in the suites wouldnt have to walk up stairs for restrooms and concessions.
Interesting thought about lowering the floor. Certainly that could be a very cost effective way to create some extra space to work with
The Iowa House Hotel is a dump, it was criminal what they charged us too. They had one kid doing numerous jobs (desk clerk, cleaning lady, janitor). I found out later it is closing this month, so yes they need to raze that POS!
This comes up about CHA all the time. There's always some issue.
Fixing the food service seems like about the easiest thing that could be done.
The arena has its issues, certainly. But it's a perfectly acceptable venue for a good product. That much is true.
Fixing the food service seems like about the easiest thing that could be done.
The arena has its issues, certainly. But it's a perfectly acceptable venue for a good product. That much is true.
The idea has been tossed out there before. It could create more close to the floor seats for big donors AND students on the sides. I'm picturing the suites looking like how the new press box at Illinois' football stadium cut into one of their previous upper decks.
I stopped listening to anything Jess Settles says after he raved about PMAC's defense.
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Simple answer, the women's program is an entertaining product. Men's program is not
I disagree. The women have been nationally more successful sure. But having two really amazing women's players the past few years helps. A regression to the mean with womens will happen soon. Comparing a men's teams attendance to a women's team who last year had the greatest player to ever play the sport isn't fair. Talk to me again in 5 years.
Generally watching women hoop is more boring than men. Slower. No dunking. Etc.
The biggest problem to me at carver is the cost of the food. Not the food No one goes to a game to get a great meal FFS. You go to have some food and watch the game. I suspect they'd have better attendance if the beer and food was sold at cost. I paid 10 dollars last night for a crappy pizza. Sell those for 3 dollars and beers for 3 and sodas for 2 and I'd bet it would be better attended. Driving, parking 15 minute walk away in the winter at night on a weekday, missing dinner to get there after work and then to have to drop 30 dollars to get 2 sodas and 2 bad pizzas for a couple is just a bad business plan. I don't think id feel better about the food cost if it were better food.
Get rid of all the empty space courtside. The concourse should be half way up not courtside. The seats behind the basket, even row 1 are 50 feet from the court. Way too much empty space. Build a concourse 20 rows up and move the seats closer to the court. Create an environment.
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Whut? Iowa was a 2 seed in the 20-21 season, winning the big ten tourney and crapping the bed in the NCAA tourney, but being a 2 seed, having the NPOY should be more than enough to draw a crowd.
FTFY, you should actually watch Clark, and Juju to see how far the women's game has come.
It is less the arena and more the almost total lack of fan excitement for the men's team. Winning a couple of games in the dance would help. I agree that the design near the court is also a problem. There is almost as much aisle space as seats near the court. I don't know fire code, but it seems like a lot of other arenas have large sections near the floor and fill at least a part of those with students. From what I see and hear, the students don't care about the team, so you need to generate the excitement first. Having better cheaper food and maybe better music/lighting couldn't hurt. Not sure what the cost is now, but students should not have to pay much for tickets.
Maybe it's just misery loves company, but many of the men's college BB games that I have watched on TV lately, have also had very small crowds. Attendance problems are not just an Iowa problem. I am a season ticket holder (men's and women's) but I can where it is really nice to simply watch the Hawks on TV and still be a fan!!
Sure let's play lots of Conn. level teams so the subs never get to play and frosh don't get to show they[re ready.
the biggest problem is the cost of food? wow, maybe have food prior to going to the game if it that big of a deal
the food must have been both good and cheap when Iowa was in the Top 15 of national attendance the first 20 years or so after Carver was opened
And they would be closer to the exits when the game hit the final 4 minute mark so they could get out and beat the traffic.
Yeah I dunno. I wil tell you, that since I live well over an hour away and work a FT job, sometimes game days are hard to get to and time is close. No time to stop and get food prior often. So forced to get food at Carver.
Id like to see cheaper food. Dont care about high quality. Just something edible and perhaps some variety would be nice...Id like to see a smaller more 'intimate' venue. About 10-12k. Seats and students closer to the court. Mre NIL money to bring in top transfer talent. Put the old money donors in boxes and get them away from the courtside. They can sit on their butts up there instead.
Is the food different and cheaper for Wrestling and WBB?
Not saying it isn't over priced and poor quality, just not sure that is the reason why people don't go.
Seems like a lot of excuse making for a product that fans don't want to support as much as they have. Fans appear to like football and the other programs better. Carver used to be sold out all the time, seems like something has changed
It has. The competition for weekday evening entertainment has never been higher. The crowds will get better as the competition does.
If we have a good team as the year goes on, the arena will fill up especially for big name teams.
Iowa v. Rider just doesnt attract most people on a Tuesday night. My wife and I were there though. Sat low, plenty of open seats
I think if we played our games in a large high school gym the environment would be great. 17k or whatever it is, as far away as they are, just isnt as raucous as it should be. Hell, if you are top row, you might as well be watching it on TV.
The IMU got remodeled after it flooded, I always thought it was nice after that. Also there isn't enough room downtown for an arena. Look up the square footage of Carver and then compare it to any open location in downtown Iowa City.
Iowa Athletics is cheap as hell and the people volunteering for concessions, as well as to clean up Kinnick after games, ought to strike for payment. But because the volunteers have the misguided idea that they're "giving back" to an organization that is worth MILLIONS of collars and could absolutely afford to PAY them to work concessions and clean up the stadium, they won't.
You obviously haven't seen a Lickliter game.
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Don't waste your money. Southern Turd U is far and away the superior Turd school.
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Thems fighin’ words! I propose turds at ten paces!
The only “benefit” for those of us who still occasionally attend Iowa non-conference b-ball games is that we can move down to very good open seats. 😉
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