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Joe pardons Hunter

But Trump!!! You can't help yourself.

I always expected Joe to pardon Hunter. Joes is as big a POS as Trump.
Agree Joe is a POS for doing this (and for running again among other things). But I have to disagree that he is as big a POS as the orange nutter,

One needs a log scale to even see Trump on the shit scale with every other premodern President. He is orders of magnitude worse.
 
Agree Joe is a POS for doing this (and for running again among other things). But I have to disagree that he is as big a POS as the orange nutter,

One needs a log scale to even see Trump on the shit scale with every other premodern President. He is orders of magnitude worse.
None of us have any definitive knowledge of how big a POS Biden is. He's brighter than Trump and less of a narcissist, so less of his shit is in the public eye. No doubt Joe was getting money from Ukraine and China, and likely from Romania. We'll never know for sure, but his corruption runs deep. Add to that, Joe was getting money for a book, and was in the process of handing over classified documents to his ghost writer. VP Joe and POTUS Joe don't appear to be the same as Senator Joe.

You are right- Joe and Trump aren't the same. It's very debatable which is worse, but they truly are both miserable people.
 
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He always planned on doing this.
Let us know when you talked to him and he told you that. Or you heard him say it . And be specific. Otherwise, it's just partisan, weak speculation on your part, designed to make him look worse. Roger Stone and Mike Flynn, convicted felons, say hi, and thanks for the pardons Bonespurs.
 
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Let us know when you talked to him and he told you that. Or you heard him say it . And be specific. Otherwise, it's just partisan, weak speculation on your part, designed to make him look worse. Roger Stone and Mike Flynn, convicted felons, say hi, and thanks for the pardons Bonespurs.
So you truly believe that Biden was always perfectly willing to let his son go to federal prison, but then changed his mind over Thanksgiving dinner?

It’s so cute that you think that.
 
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None of us have any definitive knowledge of how big a POS Biden is. He's brighter than Trump and less of a narcissist, so less of his shit is in the public eye. No doubt Joe was getting money from Ukraine and China, and likely from Romania. We'll never know for sure, but his corruption runs deep. Add to that, Joe was getting money for a book, and was in the process of handing over classified documents to his ghost writer. VP Joe and POTUS Joe don't appear to be the same as Senator Joe.

You are right- Joe and Trump aren't the same. It's very debatable which is worse, but they truly are both miserable people.
"No doubt Joe was getting money from Ukraine and China and likely from Romania". No doubt? Please show us this "proof" that generates 'no doubt'. You are trying soooo hard, its embarassing. I'll wait for that proof. No doubt you can provide it 🤣🤣.
 
So you truly believe that Biden was always perfectly willing to let his son go to federal prison, but then changed his mind over Thanksgiving dinner?

It’s so cute that you think that.
Yep. Prove otherwise then. Oh yeah you can't? All you can give is your meaningless opinion. I think it's cute that you try to do that and try to sell it as fact. Just like all I can give is my opinion. I'd believe Biden way more than say... Lying Donnie Sexual Abuser, whose most recognized trait is his ridiculous lying, on anything he says.
 
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Yep. Prove otherwise then. Oh yeah you can't? All you can give is your meaningless opinion. I think it's cute that you try to do that and try to sell it as fact. Just like all I can give is my opinion. I'd believe Biden way more than say... Lying Donnie Sexual Abuser, whose most recognized trait is his ridiculous lying, on anything he says.
What exactly makes my opinion meaningless speculation and your opinion rock solid fact?
 
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What exactly makes my opinion meaningless speculation and your opinion rock solid fact?
That's the point, they're both just opinions. Meaningless in fact except to the holder of the opinion. I think Joe had every plan to not pardon Hunter, because he said it many times going way back. The fact he changed his mind I think has to do with the belief that he said screw them all, I'm pardoning my son. I don't give a shit what those people think anymore. I don't blame him. Good for him. I could care less if he changed his mind. He's the president of the United States and can pardon anybody he wants. His choice.
 
That's the point, they're both just opinions. Meaningless in fact except to the holder of the opinion. I think Joe had every plan to not pardon Hunter, because he said it many times going way back. The fact he changed his mind I think has to do with the belief that he said screw them all, I'm pardoning my son. I don't give a shit what those people think anymore. I don't blame him. Good for him. I could care less if he changed his mind. He's the president of the United States and can pardon anybody he wants. His choice.
Why do you suppose Hunter so willingly pleaded guilty prior to the start of his tax trial? If he didn’t know his father intended to pardon him then it seems to me that he would have tried to fight the charges.
 
Let us know when you talked to him and he told you that. Or you heard him say it . And be specific. Otherwise, it's just partisan, weak speculation on your part, designed to make him look worse.
LOL

This was what he was always going to do. Stop being naive.
 
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What was it about then?
Good question.

Joe didn't need to pardon him for an 11 year period if it was about the gun charges.


WASHINGTON – President Joe Biden’s pardon of his son Hunter Biden was an unusually broad and rare example of executive clemency, according to legal experts.

The president pardoned his son for any federal crimes “he committed or may have committed" between Jan. 1, 2014, through the end of this year. Legal experts compared the blanket pardon to former President Gerald Ford’s pardon of his predecessor, Richard Nixon, who resigned amid the Watergate scandal.

“It’s very broad,” said Margaret Love, the U.S. pardon attorney from 1990 to 1997, who called it “unprecedented” except for Nixon’s. “It does not pardon specific offenses, but rather takes a rather broad time span and pardons anything, any crime that may have been committed during that time span.”
 
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Good question.

Joe didn't need to pardon him for an 11 year period if it was about the gun charges.


WASHINGTON – President Joe Biden’s pardon of his son Hunter Biden was an unusually broad and rare example of executive clemency, according to legal experts.

The president pardoned his son for any federal crimes “he committed or may have committed" between Jan. 1, 2014, through the end of this year. Legal experts compared the blanket pardon to former President Gerald Ford’s pardon of his predecessor, Richard Nixon, who resigned amid the Watergate scandal.

“It’s very broad,” said Margaret Love, the U.S. pardon attorney from 1990 to 1997, who called it “unprecedented” except for Nixon’s. “It does not pardon specific offenses, but rather takes a rather broad time span and pardons anything, any crime that may have been committed during that time span.”
I will say I am conflicted on this. Yes I don’t think in normal circumstances pardons should be used. Add in that I do think Hunter had become Trumps and republicans play toy. I had tried talking to my dad the other day how he could vote for Trump, his response was show me a man and I’ll find you a crime. Personally I think Hunter and Trump are both garbage humans. Add in Trump has stated he will go after political opponents it makes some sense.
 
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I will say ai am conflicted on this. Yes I don’t think in normal circumstances pardons should be used. Add in that I do think Hunter had become Trumps and republicans play toy. I had tried talking to me dad the other day how he could got for Trump, his response show me a man and I’ll find you a crime. Personally I think Hunter and Trump are both garbage humans. Add in Trump has stated he will go after political opponents it makes some sense.
That's fair.
 
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