Don’t care. If you’re MAGA and upset about this….take a look in the mirror.
Joe pardons Hunter
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Maybe Trump/Rs didn't use their influence to get the DoJ to "go after" Hunter. But surely you jest when you say "it's not like" them. It's exactly like them.
So maybe Trump/Rs didn't trigger the prosecution of Hunter initially. But they absolutely exerted pressure reject the plea deal and to turn the prosecution into a political sideshow.
I suspect neither of us knows enough about the prosecutors who decided to go after Hunter. But can you rule out the possibility that some Trump-friendly prosecutor didn't start us down this path for political reasons? I'd like to know, but I doubt we ever will.
At any given point in time, if you had to guess whether the DoJ was more liberal or conservative, "conservative" would be the smart bet. Including the current DoJ.
It is an authoritarian department, after all; so can be expected to attract those personality types - regardless of who's at the top.
Everyone would protect their kids from this shit if given the opportunity. Fake anger from Republicans.
I have far more issues with Trump's daughter and SiL making over 2.5 billion dollars while he was in the White House and the media and Americans in general not caring about what Jared gave the Saudis for 2 billion. Where are the missing papers from the top secret files Trump stole?
Those mother effers get away with all that crap.
Those mother effers get away with all that crap.
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Wasn't he prosecuted by special council?
Regardless unless there is real evidence that he was treated unfairly, given an unfairly long sentence than he shouldn't be pardoned.
He committed a crime and needs to take responsibility for it.
that's true (for the most part) of everyone who gets a presidential pardon
For me pardons should be about excessively long sentences or when changing societal views or laws have significantly changed.
If someone is convicted of a crime 10 years ago, and given a long sentence but if they did the same thing today it would either not be a crime or be a slap on the wrist. That's where pardons come in IMO. For example if a state legalizes weed anyone who previously had a weed conviction should be pardoned from it.
The other instance might be clear miscarriages of justice that are just taking too long for the courts to hash out.
Pardons shouldn't be about bailing out your friends, political allies, or family members from taking responsibility for their crimes.
I actually don't really care if he pardoned his son. I knew he would do this, as would almost anyone in his situation.
It seems you assume the pardon is only due to Trump and his desire to prosecute his political enemies, making it Trump's fault.
Joe never thought Trump would win, that is a stretch. Joe did drop out for a reason.
I’m referring to when Biden initially said wouldn’t pardon his son. Imo at the time he said it, he believed trump would not win and this would ultimately go away.
He pardoned him as a father, not POTUS imo. He didn’t want to see his son dragged thru the legal/political process for the next 4 years.
And was willing to do so until political pressure changed things. You know there was a plea deal, right?
does that guy actually think this pardon applies to rent owed?
does that guy not know what his recourse is to get the rent owed?
Do you think he had a deal with Harris to pardon hunter if she won so he wouldn't be a liar? Then she lost so he had no choice.
Absolute slam dunk from Scott Jennings. Listen to this and realize it's really all this simple. These people are lying corrupt shit bags. Stop defending them.
Please explain the details of those deals so we can judge the merit of your stance.
You all are still discussing this? What's the angle? That when Trump does it it's ok but when Biden does it it's an outrage?
Yes, there was.
Who cares?
The real question is why was it pulled. IIRC, it was the judge who pulled the plug. I could be wrong but, if that's the case, wouldn't you like to know the real reason for that?
Let's give the judge the benefit of doubt and imagine he or she thought the deal was too lenient. If that were the case, the reasonable thing to do would have been to negotiate a deal that would meet the judge's standards. I think we'd know if that was tried; but maybe not.
So . . . was the judge acting politically? Were the prosecutors happy to advance their careers by letting the case blow up into something more newsworthy? Who knows?
Most of the Hunter Biden drama fell into the "who cares?" category for me. As did the hush money charges against Trump. Conveniently, it looks like Trump will never face the many serious charges against him.
Imagine your local police chief had a kid who was a known crackhead. The kid gets arrested on gun charges among other things and dad sweeps it under the rug. There isn't one of you who would be cool with that. Hypocrites.
Imagine then that you make him ambassador to france. You're sucking the balls of that one but outraged about the other.
Impeachments, raids, civil suits, and the lawfare DT has gone through and you still feel this way?
Given that you're the one who brought it up, I assumed you do.
I did some reading and found some info regarding the gun trial from July 2023. It sounds like Judge Noreika, who presided over his gun trial, didn't like the terms of the deal and was concerned about potentially granting Biden broad immunity in the tax trial.
Judge Noreika is a Democrat, so on the surface it doesn't seem like she would have any sort of political agenda against Biden.
CNN is reporting that Hunter Biden pled guilty only because he thought he would get a pardon.
Let’s see. Drug abuser, woman abuser, abandoned his child, sold out his country to enrich he and his family, enticed his widowed sister in law into his perverse world, massive tax cheat. “Everyone” might be a little generous here. Everyone knew the pardon was coming because it’s the Bidens , but Joe lied about his plans before the election like the champion of political expediency he has always been.
Maybe Biden raised a shitty kid because he always got his way, and now the kid has stolen the old man's last shred of decency...
I think it’s a pretty safe assumption. There’s a reason why Hunter so willingly pleaded guilty to all of the tax charges 8 weeks before the election and it’s no coincidence that the pardon comes this week as sentencing was scheduled for next week.
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