7 assists, 1 turnover.
Best performance this year!
Best performance this year!
Joe T
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Joe T was a difference maker today. I hope this means he has his game back!
He should be starting at the 1 and running our O. Sorry if that chaffes people down there. It's just true.
Only if you’ve watched this game and this game only. I love Joe T but he had a sophomore slump and really struggled for several games. He looked great today and I’m super happy for him. He should not start though.
He was outstanding today. If this were his level of performance every game, yes he would be playing 20+ minutes a game. If he is going to play like this, he and Murray need to be taking some of Connor's minutes.
Did a great job on Walker. When he’s on, he’s fun to watch
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He was the MVP in my eyes, and I'm not a fan of Joe T. But credit where it's due. And of course he's going bonkers on both ends and Fran pulls him. SMH
Some of his passes weren't all that great but they got thru and the guys gathered and scored, so all good. Even the turnover wasn't bad, good play by the defender, so great job Joe T.
His defense was stellar as well.
Yep. Bonkers on both ends....
I get why Fran yanks him so fast typically, but today I couldn't believe it when it happened. Game situations Fran, kid was on fire.
My best guess on Fran Coachspeak: "Joe had played more minutes than normal, so I was concerned he might get tired".
Great to see JoeT actually play some ball. He is a difference maker on both ends, and was a huge lift off the bench when we needed it.
Joe has the shortest leash on the team. One mistake and he's gonzo. He's been trying so hard to impress, that it has created errors. At worst, he should have been splitting time equally with JBo & Conner from game #1. He has skills that no one on the club can match. I'll be shocked if he returns next year.
Not saying he should be starting but sounds like you missed the Gonzaga and first MSU game? And last year? His confidence has been shot considering his significantly reduced playing time from last year and his short leash so he's been pressing but he has shown when he's on he's a game changer. With his defense, driving, and passing skills I can live with an extra turnover or 2, great to see him play like he's capable
It should be noted that those 7 assists came in only 14 minutes of PT.
He was excellent today, absolutely outstanding. I wish Fran would have let him finish out the half, as he was playing well at the time. However, our starters went on that nice 10-2 run the last four minutes and I settled down. Between our two PG's today, they scored 11 points, 7 Rebounds, 12 Assists, and just two turnovers. Just a great game!!!
I think Garza's post-game praise of Joe T was a subtle message to Fran.
This says it all. Joe has the potential to be very good. He just isn't on a consistent basis yet. McC can see that and gives him opportunities to shine. Joe T just needs to take better advantage of them.
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I love JoeT and he is fun to watch. At times you can see him get more and more aggressive the longer he is in the game. Which isn't a bad thing, but I think he increases his chances of doing something stupid the longer he is in the game. I have always thought JoeT at 80% is better than JoeT at 120%. I like how he really disrupts the other teams routines. He loves to torment the point guard taking the ball up the court!!
Joe has a great game. He was a true difference maker - it was great to see when the Hawks really needed it.
None of us know the reason why he is up and down, nor do we know why he is on a short leash. Sometimes, mistakes are obvious and results in a turnover. Other mistakes only the coach sees. Maybe he doesn't follow Fran's instructions, IDK.
We also don't know if he is disgruntled. Hell, he might in fact be gruntled! 🤓
It's just possible that Fran knows what he is doing.
None of us know the reason why he is up and down, nor do we know why he is on a short leash. Sometimes, mistakes are obvious and results in a turnover. Other mistakes only the coach sees. Maybe he doesn't follow Fran's instructions, IDK.
We also don't know if he is disgruntled. Hell, he might in fact be gruntled! 🤓
It's just possible that Fran knows what he is doing.
he slowed down and let the game come to him . Amazing what happens when you do that . His best game of the season
I was just referring to the poster who says he should be starting at the 1. I saw those games and he was good in those games too but he has been inconsistent and shouldn’t be starting, IMO. I’m a big fan of Joe T and hope he stays and starts next year. He definitely deserves playing time and a bit longer leash but I don’t think he should be starting based only on this last game or because of the other two games you mentioned.
It's clear from yesterday's game that Joe has talent. Now he needs game time to let that talent mature. Not sure the reasons for Fran's short leash but it's clear it IS a short leash. I see so much laziness and sloppiness on this team at times. It seems those traits are more ok with Fran than aggressive mistakes. I've heard coaches say they would rather have to reign in an aggressive kid than try to instill that drive in the first place. Joe T brings things to the table that exist nowhere else on the team. Hopefully Fran learns something from this but I am increasingly of the belief that he won't.
Joe T. had an excellent game. He didn't force much and moved the ball. But let's not get ahead of ourselves saying he should be getting 25-30 minutes a game. From a shooting standpoint, he is more of an offensive liability than Connor. Defensively, he can guard one position. He had a good game, leave it at that and build on it.
Joe was getting after it on defense like no Hawk has all year. Yes he does make a turnover now and then...but he also makes plays no other guard does....he seems to have a good connection with Patrick and feeds him the ball for great plays.
I'm not sure about that but if he is under control I can see 15 to 20 min.
Getting Joe T going would go a long way toward filling the minutes Nunge had, even though they are totally different players. Keegan and Connor give Iowa a lot of flexibility.
I was thinking the same thing yesterday. Really pretty strange to think about a 6’ pg gaining minutes from the injury of a 7’ pf/c. But we have quite a bit of roster flexibility to where it makes a lot of sense. Along with keegan an connor, joeW and pmac also give us flexibility. Once we get into the tourney, that flexibility will really pay off. We won’t be seeing near the post players we see in the BIG and it won’t be as essential to have a guy like nunge backing up garza, and will allow us to get away with playing small with keegan at the 5.
25-30 is too many, I agree. There’s no reason that he should get pulled after a bad sequence or two and not return to the game though. The only area that I would argue that Toussaint is more of a liability than Connor on the offensive end is turning the ball over. He doesn’t need to be able to shoot like Connor because he is quick enough to get into the lane at will and get defenses out of position. We saw him drive into the lane multiple times yesterday - once he kicked it back out to the top of the key to a wide open Wieskamp, once he hit a cutting PMcCaffery for an easy lay in, and once the defense didn’t help onto him and he got an easy layup. Connor either isn’t capable of doing any of these things or doesn’t try to.
And defensively, yes Toussaint can only guard one position, but is an absolute terror in help defense as he has the ability to go help swipe the ball while being able to recover and get back on his man. He puts a ton of pressure on defenses, and was partially responsible for forcing a couple of shot clock violations yesterday in the second half. And given that Iowa has found great success with man defense, I’d rather have one guy who can play great man defense than a guy who can play average defense against three positions
He clearly has a great connection to Patrick. If you watch closely, Joe is trying to get the ball to PMac.
It will be fun to see that grow.
It will be fun to see that grow.
JoeT, Patrick and Keegan are all very connected on the court.
I know at times it appears he gets pulled quickly and maybe that is true in part. But there have also been times when someone is at the scorer's table ready to come in, and it just so happens to be after a turnover from Joe. I know this because my son is a huge Joe T. fan and we argue about this every game!
Don't discount the possibility that he is being allowed into the lane because that is where he can get sped up and turns the ball over. If a typical fan can see it, you can be assured that a Big Ten coach can as well. His successful games have been when he does not force his drive to the basket. He has lost all confidence in his jump shot. Last year he was also an exceptional free throw shooter, this year not so much.
Finally, when he goes to the basket he leaves the team open to the fast break (ie. transition defense). Just because he is a good on ball defender and with the help, does not mean he handles all aspects of his defensive responsibilities well.
Did you miss all those times he poked the ball from Liddell's hands yesterday?
My issue is moreso when Toussaint fails to return in the second half and Bohannon plays all 20 minutes
I don’t know that opposing coaches are allowing him to drive into the lane under the assumption that he’s going to turn the ball over. Seems pretty risky to me, as you’re either giving up a good look or allowing Iowa an open look when help defense comes and he dishes it off, but I suppose it’s a possibility
Defensively Toussaint is one of several Hawkeyes who get lost in zone, but otherwise the only area that he really struggles is with his physicality, and specifically commits too many dumb fouls
No coach anywhere let’s a kid get into the lane. That’s just ridiculous. Sorry man.
If you don’t think players can funneled to an area of weakness then you don’t understand basketball. A 6ft point guard prone to turnovers when sped up isn’t exactly scary to shot blockers.
I don't know why people keep acting like that game was some outlier.
Tousaint is the same player every game.
He still had the 2 turnovers that people are so horrified of. He just managed to run one of them down and get it back.
The only difference between that game and any other is he played longer.
He did the same things he always does.
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