I think many of us have heard of Brady and Dylan Koontz. Would like to see them both take a redshirt year, but there are worse things in life than starting for tOSU as a true freshman.
Joey McKenna Transferring possibility
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The Koontz twins won't be the only 125 pounders on the roster next year. It's very possible they redshirt year 1 at Ohio State
Now where have you been hiding? Whats the tOSU word on Sasso and McKenna? You guys gonna share in the spoils?
Here is tOSUs 125 future:
(Jacob Decatur is Jordan Decatur's twin brother. I know some of you know this, but just mentioning for those that dont follow Ohio high school wrestling).
Tom Ryan seems to be stocking up on 125s. Malik Heinselman is the long term plan, but needs to grow. Also, the below assumes NaTo stays at 133 for 2017/18.
2017/18
125 Braken Mead fr, Brady Koontz fr, Dylan Koontz fr. Jaimen Hood fr redshirts. (Malik Heinselman hs-sr) (Jacob Decatur hs-jr) (Nathaniel Keaton hs-sr)
2018/19
125 Braken Mead so, Brady Koontz rs-fr/so, Dylan Koontz rs-fr/so. Jaimen Hood rs-fr. Malik Heinselman redshirts and gains weight. Nathaniel Keaton redshirts (Jacob Decatur hs-sr)
2019/20
125 Malik Heinselman rs-fr, Braken Mead jr, Brady Koontz rs-so/jr, Dylan Koontz rs-so/jr. Jaimen Hood rs-so. Nathaniel Keaton rs-fr, Jacob Decatur redshirts
2020/21
125 Malik Heinselman rs-so, Jacob Decatur rs-fr, Braken Mead sr, Brady Koontz rs-jr/sr, Dylan Koontz rs-jr/sr. Jaimen Hood rs-jr. Nathaniel Keaton rs-so.
(Jacob Decatur is Jordan Decatur's twin brother. I know some of you know this, but just mentioning for those that dont follow Ohio high school wrestling).
Tom Ryan seems to be stocking up on 125s. Malik Heinselman is the long term plan, but needs to grow. Also, the below assumes NaTo stays at 133 for 2017/18.
2017/18
125 Braken Mead fr, Brady Koontz fr, Dylan Koontz fr. Jaimen Hood fr redshirts. (Malik Heinselman hs-sr) (Jacob Decatur hs-jr) (Nathaniel Keaton hs-sr)
2018/19
125 Braken Mead so, Brady Koontz rs-fr/so, Dylan Koontz rs-fr/so. Jaimen Hood rs-fr. Malik Heinselman redshirts and gains weight. Nathaniel Keaton redshirts (Jacob Decatur hs-sr)
2019/20
125 Malik Heinselman rs-fr, Braken Mead jr, Brady Koontz rs-so/jr, Dylan Koontz rs-so/jr. Jaimen Hood rs-so. Nathaniel Keaton rs-fr, Jacob Decatur redshirts
2020/21
125 Malik Heinselman rs-so, Jacob Decatur rs-fr, Braken Mead sr, Brady Koontz rs-jr/sr, Dylan Koontz rs-jr/sr. Jaimen Hood rs-jr. Nathaniel Keaton rs-so.
Just been occupied with some other things going on around me and than I got a little too caught up in the NBA..... I've got no word on what's going on with Sasso and to me it looks like McKenna is tOSU bound preusse has said it and RodMac (plugged in tOSU poster on 247 board) seems to believe so as well. McKenna being around the team in Colorado Springs seems to validate what they're saying even further
I think Brady Koontz stays at 125 but Dylan goes 133. Dylan's taller, and I can't see them staying at the same weight. Also hoping that order changes from the one listed. I think the Koontz brothers will surprise some folks in Columbus. Don't forget that Dylan beat Teske easily, 13-7, at Northern Plains just a few months ago. Yes, it was freestyle, but it wasn't a fluke. These kids are no joke.
Hoping for one or both Koontz brothers to crack the lineup at some point. Won't be easy, but they're gamers, and nobody will out-work them.
You are way off base here.
They are going to 10 new weights next year - supposedly 55, 60, 65, etc.
They have not decided what the new Olympic weights are going to be - or if they have no one in the media knows. They are just as likely to be completely different weights - 57kg, 63kg, whatever - for the next Olympics as they will be one of the new weights with middle ones eliminated. Nobody knows right now. I get that your position was thrown around as a possibility before, but it would be pretty foolish for him to decide on a weight this year with an eye on 2020 when it is completely uncertain at this point.
Go listen to the Ramos interview on Flo at a camp in Texas sounds like he's looking to decide on a weight for 2020 soon guys want to be Olympians with the expected 11lbs between weights and same day weigh ins most guys won't be jumping weights for the Olympic year
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Pulling for Lehigh. Have always had a lot of respect for that program. Would be a nice shot in the arm for them.
Unless of course you were watching as you thought Lebron would be interested in wrestling 285 for fOSU after Snyder finishes up?
I'm sure he has eligibility left.
Please, let it be PSU. I can't wait for it to start to come apart at the seams.
Just a bump for @SittingSwitch @HerkHawl (BTW, admitting you have two handles must be faux paux numero uno in the troll handbook), who also later doubled down by claiming Nick Lee was hosting recruiting visits - while in State College training.
CDT with an interview yesterday of Joe who will arrive in PA shortly:
http://www.centredaily.com/sports/article160637184.html
Nice call on that one...
I wouldn't normally come over here to just to call out an HR guy for being a homer or even wanting to bat around a non-malicious rumor, but this guy was so far out of it, I think even most HR denizens were giving him a wide berth.
A buddy of mine, who is pretty tight with Tom Ryan, thinks McKenna will be at tOSU at 149 with Jordan bumping up to 157. Anyone heard anything on this at all? I think they'll end up beating Penn State in a dual this year.
If he ends up at tOSU having him at 49 and Jordan at 57 doesn't change the team score one bit.
This is false. It gives Ohio State high AA threats at two weights, though neither is a likely finalist. 157 projects to be a hole for Ohio State if Micah isn't there.
Yes that Rumor has been out there for awhile looking like it's gonna happen here soon
25 Tomasello
33 Pletcher
41 Hayes
49 McKenna
57 Jordan
65 Campbell
74 Jordan
84 Martin
97 Moore
Hwt Synder
Yeah, it won't change it for the dual, but I still think tOSU can beat them in a dual. Tournament, much different.
I'm talking about in a meet against PSU; I don't think it helps them one bit. I agree it would help them in most other circumstances; just not against PSU.
My point, though, is that it helps them at the NCAA tournament. Instead of getting smoked 24ish points to zeroish at 157, maybe Penn State only wins that weight 24ish points to 16ish.
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I disagree that it doesn't help them at all in a dual meet. Now both Retherford and Nolf will still win but I think McKenna at 149 and Micah at 157 limits their bonus by 1 or 2. Now that isn't a lot, but in a tight dual which it would seem to be, that very well could be the difference maker.
I like Nolf as a matchup much better for Micah than when he is against Zain. Micah's biggest weakness, getting off bottom, is Zain's biggest strength i.e. on top. Whereas IMO Nolf and Micah's biggest strength are the same i.e. on their feet so I could easily see Micah holding Nolf to a major. I also like McKenna's chances of not getting pinned or teched by Zain are better than Micah's.
Best case scenario, it could give tOSU a legit scorer at 125,133,141 (Nato, Pletcher, Hayes) at NCAAs. Hayes is a mystery man...last year, the rumor was that he was bad ass in the room before his injury so who knows. I could see an AA at every weight class for them with 3-4 champs.
125-Nato (1-2)
133-Pletcher-Can he make the weight?
141-Hayes-Big time potential
149-McKenna-Top 6 at a weak weight
157-Micah-Top 6
165-Campbell-Went 2-2, don't see him improving much in a tough weight class
174-Bo was close and could win it this year
184-Myles Martin is a weird situation...but Bo hopes he is on the other side.
197-Could win it all
HWY-He and Zain are as close to sure things as you can get.
Is that going to be enough to win it? I think they have a legit shot at 8 AA's with three champs. They could have a PSU type run because 165,174, and 184 are not done deals. Going to be very tough to beat the bonus at 149, 157, and 184.
125-Nato (1-2)
133-Pletcher-Can he make the weight?
141-Hayes-Big time potential
149-McKenna-Top 6 at a weak weight
157-Micah-Top 6
165-Campbell-Went 2-2, don't see him improving much in a tough weight class
174-Bo was close and could win it this year
184-Myles Martin is a weird situation...but Bo hopes he is on the other side.
197-Could win it all
HWY-He and Zain are as close to sure things as you can get.
Is that going to be enough to win it? I think they have a legit shot at 8 AA's with three champs. They could have a PSU type run because 165,174, and 184 are not done deals. Going to be very tough to beat the bonus at 149, 157, and 184.
That's a pretty salty looking lineup. Question for the tOSU insiders, do you guys think for 2018-2019 Ryan redshirts Pletcher, McKenna, Campbell and Martin to reload for 2019-2020?
NY, just want to be clear, he's all in this year, but I was asking about the following year when Snyder, BoJo and Tomasello all graduate. You think they redshirt then or no?
I gotta learn to read better
the only person I could see taking a redshirt is Myles but I've heard he'd prefer to not do that now. There's some good guys committed and who could possibly commit in the future that would overlap with pletcher mckenna and Campbell. While depth is great I don't know if Tom wants all these top notch blue choppers riding the pine. He's always been a win first type of guy dating back to his Hofstra days so I can't see him red shirting the aforementioned unless the team as a whole won't be competitive
I gotta learn to read better
Win first type of guy, eh? Just not in dual meets.
Myles said in a recent interview (I think it was on the Steelwood Radio podcast, that he has no plans on redshirting in 2018/9.
I dont think they redshirt Pletcher, as they have Jordan Decatur coming in a few years and will need to overlap them by 1 year (see below). One will have to go 141 when Hayes graduates
As per Campbell, I also doubt they redshirt him, they have to work Jaden Mattox into 165 (or possibly Carr if we get him. Carr and Mattox will be 157 and 165 for a few years).
2018/19
125 Braken Mead so, Brady Koontz rs-fr/so, Dylan Koontz rs-fr/so. Jaimen Hood rs-fr. Malik Heinselman redshirts. Nathaniel Keaton redshirts, Kyle Gruber redshirts, (Jacob Decatur hs-sr)
133 Luke Pletcher rs-so, (Jordan Decatur hs-sr)
141 Ke-Shawn Hayes rs-jr, Brenden Fitzgerald jr/rs-so backup
149 Micah Jordan rs-sr (?Sasso? redshirts)
157 Ryan Ferro rs-fr, Jake Ryan? rs-sr (?Carr? redshirts), Jashon Hubbard redshirts,
165 Te’Shan Campbell sr, Jaden Mattox redshirts
174 Kaleb Romero rs-fr, Jamar Williams rs-fr
184 Myles Martin sr, Ethan Smith rs-fr backup, Zach Steiner rs-fr
197 Kollin Moore rs-jr, Kevin Snyder rs-so backup, Gavin Hoffman redshirts
HWY Chase Singletary rs-fr
2019/20
125 Malik Heinselman rs-fr, Braken Mead jr, Brady Koontz rs-so/jr, Dylan Koontz rs-so/jr. Jaimen Hood rs-so. Nathaniel Keaton rs-fr, Kyle Gruber rs-fr, Jacob Decatur redshirts
133 Luke Pletcher rs-jr, Jordan Decatur redshirts
141 Ke-Shawn Hayes rs-sr, Brenden Fitzgerald sr/rs-jr backup
149 [[?Sasso? rs-fr]]
157 [[?Carr? rs-fr]] Ryan Ferro rs-so, Jashon Hubbard rs-fr,
165 Jaden Mattox rs-fr
174 Kaleb Romero rs-so, Jamar Williams rs-so
184 Ethan Smith rs-so, Zach Steiner rs-so
197 Kollin Moore rs-sr, Gavin Hoffman rs-fr backup, Kevin Snyder rs-fr
If Jake comes back to wrestle I don't expect ferro to be the guy that bumps him out of that spot
In the grand scheme of things yes he is. I only remember him starting to sit certain guys in duals a few years ago. In 2006 he pulled Alton Lucas's redshirt to fill a whole in the line up for Chris Vondruska who was injured at the time. Alton lost the match and Chris eventually came back and the spot was his which wasted the year for Alton. 1 of a few mistakes in his coaching career that I see now he's learned from
Whoa, now that's a thorough answer. Thanks Dar.of.Emur (and NY).
I just have to say that after pondering McKenna going to tOSU, I feel better about having Downey in our lineup. The way the arms race has escalated over the past few years, staying in the top 3-4 teams in 2018 is important for recruiting purposes.
No, Racer is no longer associated with tOSU. For whatever reason, it did not work out and he will not be attending tOSU this year.
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