Jordan Bohannon

[DanL53]

I would agree with this. Actually, from what I saw of Christian Williams, he is this type of PG - keeps his head up when bringing the ball up the floor and looks to pass it on the break. His court vision is one of the things that I thought stood out in the games of his I saw broadcast. His clips are more about his scoring but his game is so much more that that. I really hope that he develops at Iowa because he could be very special, both at the PG and SG positions.

I've been getting in trouble a lot lately, some deserved, about my criticisms of Moore. But I really think Williams could be the better point guard for the team we're seeing Fran put together. As you mentioned, he has no trouble keeping his head up, yet for 6'6" his dribble is quite low to the ground. I'll just lists stuff off:

Strengths: As mentioned already. Good outside shooter. Very good penetration, I believe similar to an Andre Woolridge level where you can count on a balanced shot. With a seven foot wingspan, he's not going to get swatted away by the big boys. Unselfish. Former Quarterback and as he's said he feels comfortable with the ball in his hands. In a motion offense posting him up could be a nightmare for opponents.

Neutral: Speed. He has enough, not more. I've read some posts saying he needs to bulk up, but I would prefer he not do anything to sacrifice speed. Passing. At this time Williams is a solid passer, but isn't going to stun anyone with fancy stuff.

Concerns: The main one is experience. Watching game video, he was playing the wing quite often, and of course against a lower level of competition. Experience and hard work is the key with Williams. Unselfish. Yes, as much a concern as it is a strength. We've seen how much pulling of teeth it's taken to get Uthoff to become aggressive. Hopefully we don't have that issue with Williams. I've always felt the best point guards make teams commit to stopping them first, and then become distributers.

If right, and these are just my opinions, getting back on the subject of Bohannon someday we might be glad to have a player of his skill coming off the bench. Similar to what we have with Clemmons now. Glad, glad, glad I am he stayed at Iowa.

 

[HawkRugged17]

Jordan just committed to Iowa.

 

[David1979]

man that is not a good recruiting class. The current freshman better pan out

 

[LarryMullenJr.]

man that is not a good recruiting class. The current freshman better pan out

Or you can be a dick about it....

 

[BBHawk]

man that is not a good recruiting class. The current freshman better pan out

Kind of early to be predicting this.

 

[David1979]

Kind of early to be predicting this.

It's not a prediction it is a statement of them as recruits.

 

[lenoxhawks]

I will go on record that Williams will be All Big Ten before he leaves and will be better than Moore.

 

[BBHawk]

man that is not a good recruiting class. The current freshman better pan out

Kind of early to be predicting this.

It's not a prediction it is a statement of them as recruits.

The recruiting class is not finished so yes, it is a prediction on your part.

 

[unoHawkeye]

Will be interesting to see what Iowa does at PG next year. Don't think that Bohannon is a guy who can come in and start as a freshman. Williams?

I guess it's nice that Pemsl and Bohannon are buddies anyways- should help with chemistry.

 

[lenoxhawks]

Fran said he is going to teach Williams and Fleming how to run the 1 this year.

 

[David1979]

The recruiting class is not finished so yes, it is a prediction on your part.

oh god

 

[WORTHYWISH]

So, I guess this means we are out on Huerter as well?

 

[Hawks2405]

Not much you can do, Fran tried to get Moore. I got the vibe that the On Iowa guys seemed to know something about the Moore recruitment and it didn't seem right. I wonder what went down between both parties.

We have a kid who wants to be a Hawkeye and he has chemistry with Kriener and Pemsl through AAU. I like it. I just really hope they can land Cook now.

 

[jaffarosenfels]

So, I guess this means we are out on Huerter as well?

This was my question as well. Really like that kid.

 

[FSHawkeye87]

This was my question as well. Really like that kid.

This may not have anything to do with Iowa, but there is a feeling he may re-classify to 2017.

 

[EastIowaHawk]

Congrats, Jordan. I think you'll be a great fit.

 

[skydog0784]

So, I guess this means we are out on Huerter as well?

This was my question as well. Really like that kid.

This may not have anything to do with Iowa, but there is a feeling he may re-classify to 2017.

Not necessarily, he is still visiting to my knowledge so I don't think we're out of the running for him. He seems too good and highly rated to re-classify. I can see a scenario where at least one guy leaves after this year - perhaps at the 2 or 3 spot. Somebody isn't going to be happy not getting much playing time given the glut at that position. A lot of competition for Huerter so likely a moot point.

 

[StormHawk42]

I thought all the speculation about Huerter reclassifying was just for Syracuse

 

[Legend12]

I doubt you'd listen. But to be honest I'd rather watch your team's guards shoulder the responsibility to defend against a fast break regardless of where they happen to be on the court.

Seeing as how AZMess has sent more than a couple guys he coached to the D1 level I think it's safe to assume they defend just fine.

 

[DanL53]

Seeing as how AZMess has sent more than a couple guys he coached to the D1 level I think it's safe to assume they defend just fine.

We're still arguing a valid point here. What he is complaining about, people yelling, "Follow your shot!" is right when it comes to a player who is taking a deep jump shot and should be protecting against the break. But there are plenty of times when the guys at the top of the key or near it, in a motion offense, aren't the guards. You can't expect a guy shooting from the baseline to protect against the break. And, move him in to fifteen feet, he should follow his shot.

The conversation started with Chad Calabria, who was quite good at getting his own rebound. He was often following his shot and with respect to AZMess, I'm sure he wouldn't argue with Ralph Miller who not only recruited many kids from coaches like AZMess, but coached them quite successfully in Division One.

 

[2432Hawk]

You would think speed would be important for a point guard on the fast break, and it doesn't hurt, but I actually think it isn't as important for a fast break team as a half court team. Court awareness and passing skills are more important. I always thought Jeff Horner ran the fast break as well as anyone because he always kept his eyes up and he was a terrific cross court passer. B.J. Armstrong wasn't terribly fast, but he also had great vision and passing skills. I'm not saying Bohannon is the guy, I hope we wait until Spring to decide, but my concern isn't his skill on the fast break.

If you haven't noticed in the break, Fran really often doesn't require the PG run the break. He wants his wings and even forwards to get the ball off the rim and go. Imagine Hutton or Fleming getting the defensive rebound and pushing and having Bohannon space the floor and get the pass from the other guards / forwards for the open 3 in transition.

A lot of flexibility is what Fran teaches, he doesn't require a prototypical PG, and with the shortened shot clock there is less 1/2 court offense to run... more playmaking to be made if you have a team full of guys that can put it on the deck and shoot or find the open man.

 

[AZmess]

Unfortunately speed and quickness are pretty essential traits for a PG to have. You can get away with it in the open court because it's all about hitting ahead and passing on a fast break. It's in the half court that a PG will have more of a challenge if he's a little slower.

 

[CanadaHawk]

Unfortunately speed and quickness are pretty essential traits for a PG to have. You can get away with it in the open court because it's all about hitting ahead and passing on a fast break. It's in the half court that a PG will have more of a challenge if he's a little slower.

It's all about separation. It took MG a couple years to understand at the D1 level how to use his level of quicks, combined with his hops, to get separation to upset spacing to pass/shoot. JB doesn't have MG's hops, but he has good quickness and that, combined with his shooting, will allow him the space to operate. I just hope his learning curve is speedy. Williams' height allows him not to need as much separation. But he's got to learn to make his first step count.

 

[hansenhawk]

Agree with the will miss Mike G. comments. I don't think people fully realize how important he is to this team. We are gonna miss him badly since we don't have a true PG coming in after him.

 

[freemanbrenner]

Positions are overrated, just get long versitale guys that can play. That is what fran likes.

 

[DanL53]

Positions are overrated, just get long versitale guys that can play. That is what fran likes.

Someday, in the opponents huddle:

Coach: "Guard the point guard!"
Player: "Which ONE?"
Coach: "The guy that's killing us setting up his teammates!"
Player: "Yeah? But which one!"

 

[skydog0784]

Jordon Bohannon now a 4*, rated an 80 per ESPN. 26th best PG in country, #18 best player in region, #1 best player in state. Now I recognize that his upgrade might have to do with him committing to IA / a power conference but still nice to see.

Moore is 4*, rated 81 per ESPN.

You can argue the accuracy on these but at least per ESPN there isn't a huge difference between the two.

 

[Servbot24]

Not elite enough!

 

[redforeman80]

I like to think that Wisconsin offered Xavier Simpson because they found out Bohannon will be a Hawk. Bohannon took an official to Wisconsin in October, albeit without an offer. In my dumb mind, Jordan was Wisky's first choice and Simpson was the safety.

I'll stick with that.

Wisconsin has offers out to Jaquori McLaughlin, Frankie Hughes and now Simpson. Bohannon looked more like a potential preferred walk on or late offer.

 

[WORTHYWISH]

Don't sell Bohannon too short. He's a respectable recruit. Excellent shooter and ball handler.

From the video I've seen, I'd have to agree. Also, seems to have good court awareness. He might not be as quick as Moore, but he's certainly not any shorter, I guess.

 

[HawkRugged17]

He's good at golf too.

http://www.metrosportsreport.com/in...es-71-at-crandic-golf&catid=184:about-msr

 

[The Sleeping Dog]

Jordon Bohannon now a 4*, rated an 80 per ESPN. 26th best PG in country, #18 best player in region, #1 best player in state. Now I recognize that his upgrade might have to do with him committing to IA / a power conference but still nice to see.

Moore is 4*, rated 81 per ESPN.

You can argue the accuracy on these but at least per ESPN there isn't a huge difference between the two.

I have subscribed to ESPN recruiting service for years. They did not upgrade Jordan because he signed with Iowa. The ESPN recruiting people have no respect for Iowa; so little in fact I don't think they dislike us, they disregard us. Almost every Iowa recruit drops on ESPN after signing with us. Olesani and Ingram the same day, and Olesani dropped to "insufficient information to evaluate" after being a nice upper level three star for months. Did the analysts suddenly forget the tape they'd seen? Plus, Gabe had a four star teammate (that poor kid that lost his eye after signing with Notre Dame) so I'm sure the scouts had seen a lot of Gabe.

 

[DanL53]

Jordan Bohannon continues to move up ESPN's rankings. Still rated an 80, four star. But now considered the 24th best point guard prospect in his class. This puts him ahead of Te'Jon Lucas of Milwaukee who is a #79, three star, and 28th on their pg list.

All of course speculation and the proof will come when the 2016 class plays some basketball. But I think this is significant considering that Xavier Simpson just committed to Michigan and the point guard opportunities are starting to get fewer for schools like Wisconsin, Illinois...etc.

 

[HawkRugged17]

 

[Moral]

Wonder what ever happened to @DanL53

 

[Hawksfor3]

Wonder what ever happened to @DanL53

Just a little bump to keep the search alive.

 

[CookyMonster]

Wonder what ever happened to @DanL53

Did L. Wade die?

 

[TheTruthTheWholeTruth]

Lol L Wade is alive and well.

 

[HawkRugged17]

Funny thread here ... if you have the time ... the replies are clever.