The Dengvaxia fiasco (among others) once again proves that you are absolutely full of 💩.
Just 14% of Americans have received the updated covid vaccine.
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This isn't a traditional vaccine. There's no way to know the long term effects of injecting the spike protein.
It sure as shit is.
And they had 6 month data on it before it was released, from the Phase 2 trial
This is good.
Former BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee (BCBST) employee Tanja Benton has been awarded over $680,000 by a Tennessee federal jury following a verdict that the insurer failed to offer reasonable accommodation for her religious beliefs.
Former insurance employee gets damages in religious beliefs vaccine case
Group also seeking compensation over vaccine mandate
www.insurancebusinessmag.com
This is good.
Former BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee (BCBST) employee Tanja Benton has been awarded over $680,000 by a Tennessee federal jury following a verdict that the insurer failed to offer reasonable accommodation for her religious beliefs.
Former insurance employee gets damages in religious beliefs vaccine case
Group also seeking compensation over vaccine mandate
Which has nothing to do with anything other than her religious beliefs.
Just out of curiosity:This is good.
Former BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee (BCBST) employee Tanja Benton has been awarded over $680,000 by a Tennessee federal jury following a verdict that the insurer failed to offer reasonable accommodation for her religious beliefs.
Former insurance employee gets damages in religious beliefs vaccine case
Group also seeking compensation over vaccine mandate
While most major religions do not have explicit prohibitions against vaccinations, certain religious groups or sects within larger religions may oppose vaccinations based on their beliefs. Here are some examples:
Christian Scientists
- Beliefs: Christian Scientists rely on prayer and spiritual means for healing rather than conventional medical interventions, including vaccinations.
- Context: They believe that disease can be overcome through prayer and faith, and that medical interventions may interfere with divine healing.
Dutch Reformed Congregations
- Beliefs: Some members of the Dutch Reformed Church believe that vaccinations interfere with divine providence and natural immunity as determined by God.
- Context: This group has historically seen outbreaks of preventable diseases due to lower vaccination rates.
Faith Healing Groups
- Beliefs: Various independent faith healing sects believe in healing through prayer alone, rejecting medical treatments including vaccinations.
- Context: These groups may include certain Pentecostal and Evangelical Christian congregations.
Other Specific Groups
- Amish: Some Amish communities may be hesitant about vaccinations due to concerns about modern medicine, although there is no religious doctrine explicitly forbidding it.
- Jehovah’s Witnesses: While Jehovah’s Witnesses do not have a religious doctrine against vaccinations, individual members may choose to refuse them based on personal beliefs.
- Some Islamic and Jewish Groups: Occasionally, concerns arise regarding vaccine ingredients derived from pork or other non-halal/kosher sources, though many religious authorities have issued statements supporting vaccination.
As I understand it, the Christian Science leadership has greatly relaxed this stance, making adherence optional and personal.
Born and raised in the Dutch Reformed Church……never heard of a congregation that has openly or publicly banned vaccinations….Lived in a town with 4 or 5 of these congregations…..now there are twice that number of Dutch reformed congregations in my hometown……Now there are probably individuals within these congregations that “do not believe” in vaccinations, undoubtedly. Dutch Reformed are very heavily influenced by John Calvin and Calvin was big on “predestination”….and of course, vaccinations would interfere (or possible interfere) with God’s preordained order.
However, I was born and raised in the 50’s and 60’s……and in the 50’s parents lived in fear every summer because of polio….and when the vaccine was “discovered” wild horses couldn’t keep 99.99% of the population away from inoculation! In the 60’s, “flu shots” became available….and popular, too.
Opting out of vaccines, means you should accept the financial obligations to treat yourself and your kids for any complications of those diseases, out of pocket. And pay for the care and side effects for anyone you infect with the vaccinable disease.
Fat people should accept financial obligations for being more at risk for disease. Therein is the real issue. It's their fault. Except responsibility. Think of all the health issues. Diabetes, cancer, heart disease.... Entirely avoidable.
Only, someone else being fat cannot transmit their "fattiness" onto other people who would be immunocompromised...
No matter how many times this gets pointed out to you, it just seems to never sink in. Almost like you're an idiot...
Wait, are you saying if you have the vaccine you can’t transmit Covid ?
If you have the vaccine, your likelihood of transmitting Covid is reduced.
Not rocket science here.
Not worth the risk anymore. Most people don’t give a shit about Covid now. It’s the same as the Flu
Just like not wearing a helmet when riding a motorcycle or not wearing a seatbelt in a car right?
Okay, then just self-incurred expenses. Same goes with smoking and alcohol-related diseases/issues. All are preventable. Just put down the donut, cigarette, and/or whiskey.
As of the most recent data available, Americans spend more on healthcare costs related to alcohol, cigarette, and obesity-related diseases than on COVID-19-related healthcare expenses. Here's a breakdown of the expenditures in these categories:
1. Alcohol and Cigarette-Related Diseases
- Alcohol-related healthcare costs: Annually, the U.S. spends a significant amount on treating alcohol-related conditions, including liver disease, accidents, and alcohol poisoning. Estimates suggest this can be around $250 billion per year, including healthcare, lost productivity, and other associated costs.
- Cigarette-related healthcare costs: The cost of smoking-related illnesses, including lung cancer, heart disease, and chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD), is also very high. Annually, these costs are estimated to be around $170 billion in direct healthcare costs.
2. Obesity-Related Diseases
- Obesity is a major public health issue in the U.S., contributing to conditions like diabetes, heart disease, and certain cancers. The direct medical costs related to obesity are estimated to be about $190 billion per year, accounting for nearly 21% of annual medical spending.
3. COVID-19-Related Healthcare Costs
- During the peak of the pandemic, COVID-19-related healthcare costs surged. However, the annual spending on COVID-19 healthcare has fluctuated with the severity of the pandemic. At the height of the pandemic, estimates for 2020 and 2021 suggested healthcare costs might have ranged between $100 billion to $300 billion, including hospitalizations, treatments, and vaccinations. As the pandemic has evolved, these costs have likely decreased significantly due to widespread vaccination and the development of effective treatments.
Comparative Analysis
While COVID-19 costs were substantial during the peak years of the pandemic, ongoing annual healthcare costs related to alcohol, cigarette use, and obesity remain consistently high and are a significant burden on the U.S. healthcare system. Over the long term, the chronic conditions associated with alcohol, smoking, and obesity are likely to constitute a larger and more persistent expenditure compared to the more fluctuating costs associated with COVID-19.Conclusion
Based on the available data, it is evident that the healthcare costs related to alcohol, cigarette, and obesity-related diseases are higher compared to the annual COVID-19-related healthcare expenses, especially considering the ongoing and chronic nature of these conditions.
You mean your head injury is going to kill someone else's kid?
Run the logic on that one for us.
We actually put restrictions on "alcohol" and "driving" in this country. Toss people in jail for doing it all the time.
Where did I say anything about driving while intoxicated. I specifically said healthcare related costs. Per your post above, excluding potential harm to others (more on that below), it should look something like this:
- Don't wear a helmet = you pay for your own healthcare if you sustain a head injury due to not wearing a helmet.
- Don't stop drinking = you pay for your own healthcare if you get liver disease due to excessive drinking.
- Don't stop smoking = you pay for your own healthcare if you get lung cancer due to smoking.
- Don't stop overeating = you pay for your own healthcare if you get type 2 diabetes due to excessive eating.
- Don't get the COVID-19 vaccine = you pay for your own healthcare if you have to be hospitalized due to COVID-19 related complications.
*as for the harm to others, the only people who would be susceptible to harm from an unvaccinated person would be another unvaccinated person and eff them both, amirite?
It's a mitigation we put in place to protect others from your conduct.
You just being drunk isn't going to kill someone's immunocompromised child.
You are more apt to get covid being fat. You are more apt to spread it due to compromised immunity. If you are fat you are a big drain on the medical system.
Therefore if you are fat take responsibiity.
I mean if you're not going to take precautions to protect yourself, why should you get medical treatment ?
Well in theory if the vaccine works and Is an actual vaccine you're correct, but if not than I guess all bets are off
Post #690:
Opting out of vaccines, means you should accept the financial obligations to treat yourself and your kids for any complications of those diseases, out of pocket.
I continually addressed the bolded part (very specifically in post #700), but you kept answering the strike-through.
If you are dumb enough to take genetic material to fight covid,...well you are just dumb.
What are the odds that Joes Place still wears a mask in his car by himself
Nope.
Even though he swears to this truth from the holy bible of Our Lord and Savior St. Anthony of Fauduci: Up to 60% of covid cases are spread by asymptomatic carriers. In spite of this he only goes so far as to have a couple of masks in his vehicle.
Clearly a practice which is not only hypocritical but also endangers the lives of every immune-compromised person he comes across. 😞
It’s obvious that being a fatty and/or a drunk is a far greater issue health and money wise in our society than not getting a covid shot. 3 dui should result in lifetime imprisonment 😂
Remember you can be vaccinated and still get and give Covid. Amirite?
Yes
But you reduce the likelihood of becoming infected and re-infecting others; thus providing greater protection to those who cannot be vaccinated due to organ transplant, auto-immune disorders, cancer treatment, etc.
So horrible that you have to spend 5 minutes getting a tiny needle stick to help protect those folks, ain't it?
