I'd be willing to bet he isn't given the opportunity to wrestle that deep into the season
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It's possible.
The A/D or whoever made the decision is going to get some major heat.
They are going to make sure they keep their job over letting a kid wrestle this year.
I get that but what I'm trying to say is if they might be open to litigation in that they didn't do enough in a different kind of case. Meaning the parents would argue one way or the other, which either benefits them.
There's a case that went to SCOTUS from Pa. It seems silly but a cheerleader was suspended for some online stuff that supposedly violated the code of conduct.
Cheerleader prevails at U.S. Supreme Court in free speech case
The U.S. Supreme Court on Wednesday ruled in favor of a Pennsylvania teenager who sued after a profanity-laced social media post got her banished from her high school's cheerleading squad in a closely watched free speech case, but it declined to outright bar public schools from regulating...
www.reuters.com
I know some folk from the area and of course on the ground it's a different thing. It seems the parents were looking for problems and a payout. I believe the settlement was low 6 figures.
You totally could be correct and this is an apple and oranges comparison by me. We weren’t cited, so there is that. Plus, it was many moons ago.
I think suspending him from competition would be best for both him and the school. For example, even if it proves out that he is totally innocent of wrongdoing, it still won’t change things in the meantime. Is it best for him to put him in front of potentially hostile crowds? On the flip side, if he is guilty, you are the school that put him out there in your colors.
Maybe we didn't have those policies back in 1977. At least nobody ever gave me a copy or asked me to sign some agreement to adhere to any.
Well, if this story continues to snowball (and looks like it is) that may be the case. This is the type of story that makes national news.
"Innocent until proven guilty" applies to taking somebody's freedom, not from all consequences ever. Neither OJ Simpson or Casey Anthony have ever been proven guilty (found liable in civil court is a different thing) and yet they have faced consequences of varying degrees. The history of the world (and our country) is littered with people facing non-incarcerative consequences for accusations. Look at what happened to everybody accused by Joe McCarthy of being a Communist, for example.
I graduated in 1981, I think "your permanent record" was still a threat back then . Though I doubt we had a code of conduct.
Mhmmm. Some parents may be more likely to argue whatever side is necessary to save them the potential embarrassment of being labeled as or admit to being a deficient parent. Their behavior can be seen as a form of denial.
Other parents, like mine back in the day, would likely assume the school was right and mete out their own supplemental punishments at home.
That's why the one time I was called into the principals office for hitting a friend of mine in the face, I had him call my grandmother, claiming my parents weren't home. Got Grandma to give the go ahead for corporal punishment to avoid suspension.
That principal's forehand swing of his wooden paddle was nothing compared to my old man's belt.
All the wooden paddles of my day were probably recycled into the paper that today's conduct policies are written on.
I'm sure you didn't--I remember those becoming popular back in the mid-late 90's.
"Permanent record." Yeah, that was a good one. They really had us going with that one for a while.
I actually believed that until close to graduation.
We both graduated HS in 1981.(?) Maybe both our sets of parents were depression babies who didn't have much time to deal with shenanigans. Working HS graduates themselves, just keeping house to feed eight kids seemed enough for mine. I was raised to not get arrested or caught, because that wouldn't create extra work for them.
This is the tip of the iceberg. The fact that Roland Story let him come back at all, let alone only a few weeks after he was charged is very disturbing. CNN or Fox News is next.
According to a friend of mine within the district who’s son wrestles the school disciplined him by sitting out three meets. What a sad display of leadership by the school district. Kids get more time off the mat by the schools for cracking a beer under age
Similar, two kids in my family. My dad was a straight arrow type but he knew I pulled some nonsense. My rule was don't damage property or steal. Stick to drinking at worst because if you were good kids and known you were cut slack. Flying under the radar was my style.
We did have an incident in high school that these days would've lead to a crisis management team ( I used finger guns, but that was handled by our principal.) The kid was acting the fool and I did the Archie Bunker pretend to play Russian Roulette thing and also shot at them.
Drama ensued and the kid ran out into the hallway where the teacher was. He asked me what did I do? I answered truthfully that I didn't do anything. I lied lol. He then asked why they acted like that and a friend said why do they always act like that?
That lead to a you're right, back to the lesson lol.
We did get called down to the office and were told to be nice and even if they act like an idiot we don't have to tell them so. That5 was the only time I was ever called to the office, 3 weeks prior to graduation.
It's not even a slap on the hands - but rather a slap in the face to the victim and family. Roland Story administrators should be ashamed
If the school performed some formal inquiry that found sufficient evidence existed to reasonably believe the offense occurred, then I'm sure they could've used their judgment to sit him more than three meets.
Guilt isn't needed for judges to apply cash bail. Part of of it is the perception of risk to others. The boy could've expressed contrition and offered some kind of way to make amends
Not saying they couldn't or shouldn't have been harsher, but they probably didn't want to contribute to ruining his life. Additionally, there could've been some of that old school 'boys will be boys' mentality factoring into their thinking.
Guilt isn't needed for judges to apply cash bail. Part of of it is the perception of risk to others. The boy could've expressed contrition and offered some kind of way to make amends
Not saying they couldn't or shouldn't have been harsher, but they probably didn't want to contribute to ruining his life. Additionally, there could've been some of that old school 'boys will be boys' mentality factoring into their thinking.
All true, there was a local incident like this in the mid 90s locally involving a broomstick. Again I have zero tolerance and If my kid was a victim I'd go scorched earth. I would short circuit any school administration and go straight to the PSP.
My cousin is married to a retired sex crimes investigator so we would immediately call him.
My post was on Page 2 when this thread original started. Not sure where almost 20 other posts went to, likely deleted by admin. You may want to think of that before posting 30 days later.
My mom was the God fearing straight arrow. My Dad was a wannabee wiseguy/outlaw who decided which rules he'd follow in providing for his family. I find myself battling internal conflicts all the time.
Then I didn't think I was looking for trouble, but sometimes it had a way of finding me. Learned early life is uneven but balances out. Sometimes I felt wrongly punished. Other times I got away scot free.
Now I read in the Des Moines Register that he got it moved to juvenile court and he is entering a plea (translation he admits he did what he did). If the Roland Story school district doesn't step up and hold some accountability it's a shame. Basically administration malpractice.
You’re absolutely correct. It’s pathetic in the handling of this. Not teaching their students anything about behavior and responsibilities and being accountable for actions.
Frankly I didn’t recall this thread so thought it was new. It happens.
No problem, I was trying to figure out what had happened as well. The fact the post had like 12 thumbs up showed that likely something had changed in the interim.
So we were both somewhat in the same place. What a crazy story…unbelievable yet sadly believable at the same time.
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