I'm glad to hear that rumor was incorrect. I'm sure TJ is as disappointed as most of us in this tragedy.
Kade Blume
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Sorry, Mr. Blume, your son already admitted his guilt.
If he indeed plead guilty, then yea...Roland Story school admin is in the shitter on this one....except this is a log that's not going to flush anytime soon.
(Proud of myself for not using the tu-- word.)
(Proud of myself for not using the tu-- word.)
Why di we want the national media involved in something that gives wrestling a black eye? The school should take care of it. I am assuming that will eventually happen. It appears that the school is/was slow to act, but lets hope they finally get ti together.
Some types of transgression are kind of important to put into the spotlight for purposes of education, deterrence, and justice. Pick any sport, any club, any institution, or any faction of society — none alone is immune to things that are considered universally to be acts of severe wrongdoing. This particular example happened to involve a wrestler . . . sucks for the rest of the decent wrestling community, but keeping it to a whisper is not the way to go.
And with that said, it is on the wrestling communtiy to provide 1, 10, 100, 1,000 examples of all the good wrestling does for members of society for every 1 example that indicates otherwise. Fair is fair.
What is that saying around here? “You get what you earn.”
What is that saying around here? “You get what you earn.”
I get what you’re saying but is justice amplified by this story having a larger national audience? Does the victim or his family feel better because it is a bigger story? I don’t know but I doubt it.
As far as education and deterrence. I question whether people really need to be educated to not forcefully shove a pencil into an anus. If that is a needed educational point in this country then we are farther gone than I even thought.
What I meant by deterrence is that “What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas” is a mythical concept, that even locker-room hijincks are not private . . . i.e., what you do will be known and could be on the national news for all to see (and judge) — and then you have to deal with how that affects you and your parents (if you have parents who care, and you care about how they feel about you . . . and you actually care about yourself — all definitely caveats). Being a rather private person who cares about himself and his relationship with his parents, I can see how that might be an effective deterrent. Think the “permanent record” example discussed previously, but with actual teeth.
Edication-wise . . . I’m sorry to say, some people do not believe or understand that hazing and/or bullying are wrong. Keeping such behavior low-profile (i.e., local) runs the risk of sending a signal that “it is wrong, but not that wrong”, if you get what I mean. Think the “boys will be boys” saying.
Most people cannot understand how anyone could possibly see the pencil example as anything but wrong . . . unfortunately, some see such things as “acceptable” wrongs — i.e., they know it isn’t exactly right, but they aren’t going to melt down over it, either. Think the “I got hazed when I was a kid, and it made me tough . . . so this generation should do the same” mentality. In this regard, “universal truths” (i.e., you don’t ever do certain things to others without their consent) is a necessary form of education. Universal admonishment of violations is a deterrent.
But I get your point, too. As a rather misanthropic person, I lean toward the “yes, we are that far gone” end of the spectrum.
Justice-wise . . . I don’t know if the victim
or family will feel better if this goes national. They may be private for all I know. But I can imagine how they might feel worse if the incident is treated in a hush-hush manner.
Edit: Oh, and to be clear, I am not advocating for any particular type of coverage — I’d defer to victim for that. Just pointing out some benefits to national coverage that I happen to believe outweigh the near-term consequences of a possible black eye for the sport of wrestling.
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More at 5 and 6 but basically talked to the board member who resigned last night
There was an investigation for quite sometime before charges even being filed. The school had the original investigation before turning it over to law enforcement. They have been well aware of this situation and just chose to essentially turn the other cheek. I hope the principal and any other RS administration is held accountable on this.
Good for her. She's implying she's stepping down because the other board members are turning a blind eye. More to come on this
I inferred she is stepping down because she was kept in the dark by the board's leadership who operate with little input from all board members, and based on what she learned from the media she doesn't think the board did its job right (e.g., protecting safety of students).
She doesn't want to be associated with it or its decisions any longer. I got a men's club smoking cigars in the back room kind of vibe.
IHSAA pointed to Roland-Story district, saying all discipline is local.
Roland-Story School board's November public release leaned into "didn't occur on school grounds or at school event."
Roland-Story Student Handbook is publicly available for download. The student conduct section clearly states discipline isn't limited to school property, school event, or when school is in session when other students or staff is involved. (Otherwise it seems to be.)
Somebody didn't do their job, and the board member who resigned seemed to imply it was the board's leadership.
Victim advocacy completely lacking.
Before long I believe they'll all resign or each will be voted out.
Roland-Story School board's November public release leaned into "didn't occur on school grounds or at school event."
Roland-Story Student Handbook is publicly available for download. The student conduct section clearly states discipline isn't limited to school property, school event, or when school is in session when other students or staff is involved. (Otherwise it seems to be.)
Somebody didn't do their job, and the board member who resigned seemed to imply it was the board's leadership.
Victim advocacy completely lacking.
Before long I believe they'll all resign or each will be voted out.
Interesting. Hey, I noticed Anthony Enchemendia was wrestling unattached at the UNI Open and won it at 149. Anybody know where he landed and is working out?
Who are these PSU fans advocating for an embarrassing Iowa HS wrestler issue to go to national attention? It is unnecessary and it would cast a dark shadow on the state of Iowa HS wrestling.
The issue is being dealt with responsibly. It might not be the quick and clean version but it is moving in a direction that will satisfy. Credit the local PD for getting a plea deal out of Blume, this includes an admission of guilt. Credit the school board member who articulately cited this issue during her recent resignation. And credit people right here for supporting what’s right and for seeing this issue into the light of scrutiny and justice.
The issue is being dealt with responsibly. It might not be the quick and clean version but it is moving in a direction that will satisfy. Credit the local PD for getting a plea deal out of Blume, this includes an admission of guilt. Credit the school board member who articulately cited this issue during her recent resignation. And credit people right here for supporting what’s right and for seeing this issue into the light of scrutiny and justice.
The only people satisfied by the direction this is going is the Blume's.
What about the rest of the Roland Story school board who seem to take the position of "let Blume wrestle at all costs approach" -
I know people in the area and they are mortified by the actions of this committee.
I know people in the area and they are mortified by the actions of this committee.
What about the colo nesco wrestlers who open enrolled and were not aware of a sexual predator on the team?
He's living in Ames and attempting to do the Paniro Johnson. Sit out a year, then go to ISU. Heard a story that he and Swiderski got into it at a Cyclone event up in Okobiji. Evidently Swiderski kicked his ass in practice and it spilled over after practice with fists flying. Seems like a great future teammate to me😂
umm... not exactly, but the same tone is there. I mean.....that were IF I were in Okoboji.....and IF I were there....
I did wonder why Ohio State did not work out, but not my place to ask...
I agree that Roland Story letting Kade compete after a three meet sit-out looks bad from all directions. It makes the school look like they had jurisdiction and chose a slap on the wrist. Win Blume. And I think that’s why we are all talking.
However, the Blumes did not get a win with the police department/prosecutor who got an admission of guilt from Kade and that’s going to go a long way in helping to hold Kade accountable.
And I don’t think Blume’s win with the three meet suspension is going to age well, expect a course correction on that. The school district made a mistake, in my opinion as an outsider looking in.
Outside of Roland Story, fortunately there have been active efforts to curb bullying and hazing by all national governing bodies in sport (gymnastics, swimming, wrestling, etc) that dates back to gymnastics and Larry Nassar so there is a lot of precedent to help steer this process.
I would consider getting the case transfered from adult court to juvenile court a win for blume, a huge win.
I am trying to find some clarity in your posts. Has it been a mistake how they handled it or is it been responsibly handled?
IMO this is an ongoing process with room for improvement and I’m optimistic.
Oilchecker (awkward name) I think it’s worth considering your point, I’m not a prosecutor I don’t know what it’s like bringing a minor to trial where they are being charged as an adult.
Oilchecker (awkward name) I think it’s worth considering your point, I’m not a prosecutor I don’t know what it’s like bringing a minor to trial where they are being charged as an adult.
This is the type of story that needs national attention. A kid sexually assaults another student, pleads guilty to the crime, then is allowed to continue his wrestling career like nothing ever happened? People are tired of seeing certain people get treated differently for who they are, how much money they have, etc. And with social media being what it is today, it’s easier to “out” these people and bring awareness to wrong doings like this.
Roland-Story could have prevented this PR cluster fvck had it done the right thing from the start and suspended the kid indefinitely. But they didn’t. They allowed him to keep wrestling, and it appears they will continue to allow him to wrestle, which is wrong. Soooo, if keeping it local won’t help, you take the next step and make it a national story.
As I've mentioned on prior emails. Not blaming you for being late to the party but this sh*t upsets me.
Let's get CNN and FOX both in Story City tomorrow for their home dual,
You are obviously not very familiar with the juvenile courts here. If this is his first offense as a juvenile very little will happen to him in regards to sentencing.
Just out of curiosity, has anyone considered that the victim here does not want this to be continually front and center? I do not think anyone thinks this type of thing is cool or OK and I am guessing Kade himself wished he would not have done such a stupid thing.
Why is it so important to some people to broadcast these things all over the world? I guess I do not see how this is helpful to the victim. Kade's actions will have repercussions and hopefully they will be severe enough to change his behavior, but the last thing we need, IMHO, is for the newspapers and CNN etc to be the ones deciding what should happen to him.
The victims mother has been very vocal on social media.
I get where you’re coming from. I don’t agree with your rate of escalation but I see your sense of urgency.
I am not really a 'blow it up nationally' type for the most part. Unfortunately there was a window of opportunity to do what most would consider the 'right' thing to do and they missed it. I think they would prefer to have the one board member resign, let this issue fade to yesterdays news and go on with life. This case(victim) deserves more than that and it needs to be escalated.
If anyone thinks that the administration is not following the advice of the their legal counsel they are just plain wrong. In my opinion, of course. In this day and age of sue everyone, I can guarantee every step is calculated through advice they are paying $300+ per hour to get. It's not a message board where immediate opinions and stances are taken and if you are wrong, no big deal. If I am wrong with my assumption, then the school district/administration deserves everything that is coming to them.
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