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KCRG just teased- Wrestling at Kinnick

One other thing I failed to mention. The powers that be aren't going to want to host two separate Kinnick events on the same day. It is hard enough to staff hundreds of people at a Kinnick night game. Adding another event earlier in the day, along with the related overhead, is not realistic.

Prepared to be amazed, I guess.
 
If you want 70K people, put a wrestling mat on the 50 right before kickoff. Claim the other team forfeits each weight, and have all 10 hawks get his hand raised. Dual's done in 3 mins, and a new record.
 
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Can someone please tell me why we are (apparently) going to wrestle Oklahoma State in the first dual of the season? As i pointed out before, the weekend in question is the same weekend that was the Luther Open last year and the lineup wasn't even set and there were some questions as to who was ready by then....i don't see this being the greatest of situations...
And just a few months ago many on here were complaining that we didn't wrestle any tough opponents at the beginning of the season. How about put live wrestle offs in Carver the week before the Kinnick showdown.
 
If you want 70K people, put a wrestling mat on the 50 right before kickoff. Claim the other team forfeits each weight, and have all 10 hawks get his hand raised. Dual's done in 3 mins, and a new record.
I am glad we don't have guys like you and ic24 in charge.
 
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If you want 70K people, put a wrestling mat on the 50 right before kickoff. Claim the other team forfeits each weight, and have all 10 hawks get his hand raised. Dual's done in 3 mins, and a new record.
LOL. Can't imagine anyone wants 70K people bad enough to do that.
 
You're missing a few things here:

1. Weather will be a HUGE factor in this (plus Iowa's season football record at that point). The corresponding Saturday last year saw a high of something like 29 degrees during the day. If the weather is anywhere close to that, you will have not have people tailgating for hours before the game. Certainly not to the point that would tailgate, then freeze for a couple of hours during the wrestling meet, then go back to tailgating, then freeze for another 3 hours during the football game.

Also, if Iowa has 4 or so losses by that point, the likely attendance for the football game could be well into the 50,000 range. None of the football games this year will come anywhere close to a sellout.

2. Fewer and fewer people tailgate in the immediate vicinity of the stadium anymore. The university has pushed more and more groups to the outskirts, to the point that a significant percentage of people will have quite a hike to make two separate trips to the stadium and back (one each for both wrestling and football). The notion that tens of thousands of people will just have to put down their beer and walk across the street to attend the wrestling meet is just foolish.

The absolute max that you would be able to get for something like this is about 30K, and that's if everything goes off absolutely perfectly.

Well aren't you the Debbie Downer
 
One other thing I failed to mention. The powers that be aren't going to want to host two separate Kinnick events on the same day. It is hard enough to staff hundreds of people at a Kinnick night game. Adding another event earlier in the day, along with the related overhead, is not realistic.
Good Lord, give it up. You a talk like the Hawks are trying to figure out how to fly to and land on Pluto or break some lesbian forcefield. Give it a rest!
 
You're missing a few things here:

1. Weather will be a HUGE factor in this (plus Iowa's season football record at that point). The corresponding Saturday last year saw a high of something like 29 degrees during the day. If the weather is anywhere close to that, you will not have people tailgating for hours before the game. Certainly not to the point that they would tailgate, then freeze for a couple of hours during the wrestling meet, then go back to tailgating, then freeze for another 3 hours during the football game.

Also, if Iowa has 4 or so losses by that point, the likely attendance for the football game could be well into the 50,000 range. None of the football games this year will come anywhere close to a sellout.

2. Fewer and fewer people tailgate in the immediate vicinity of the stadium anymore. The university has pushed more and more groups to the outskirts, to the point that a significant percentage of people will have quite a hike to make two separate trips to the stadium and back (one each for both wrestling and football). The notion that tens of thousands of people will just have to put down their beer and walk across the street to attend the wrestling meet is foolish.

The absolute max that you would be able to get for something like this is about 30K, and that's if everything goes off absolutely perfectly.

The weather may be awful, in which case attendance will take a hit. That said, odds that it will be a high of 29 are pretty slim. That's unusual mid-November weather. No doubt it's possible, as it has happened recently, but if it happens you make the best of it. If the meet is held at mid-day, that will likely be the warmest time of day. I got this quote from weatherspark.com for November 14 weather in Iowa City: "The temperature typically varies from 36°F to 49°F and is rarely below 25°F or above 63°F." So odds are the temp will be in the low-to-mid 40's at mid-day on November 14. Not a bad chance it could be pushing 50. Pretty unlikely it will be in the 20's. It's just as likely to be a nice day as a crappy one. We all know it will be a little chilly, at least, but that's part of the fun.

No tailgater is anywhere close to an insurmountable distance from Kinnick. Nearly everyone is within a reasonable walk, and the rest can take a shuttle. I don't see distance as an issue at all.

So to sum up, we could look at the glass as half-full and see the possibilities for a uniquely fun and historic day of wrestling and football in Kinnick, or we could pee in our Cheerios and assume the worst. It's about that simple.
 
The weather may be awful, in which case attendance will take a hit. That said, odds that it will be a high of 29 are pretty slim. That's unusual mid-November weather. No doubt it's possible, as it has happened recently, but if it happens you make the best of it. If the meet is held at mid-day, that will likely be the warmest time of day. I got this quote from weatherspark.com for November 14 weather in Iowa City: "The temperature typically varies from 36°F to 49°F and is rarely below 25°F or above 63°F." So odds are the temp will be in the low-to-mid 40's at mid-day on November 14. Not a bad chance it could be pushing 50. Pretty unlikely it will be in the 20's. It's just as likely to be a nice day as a crappy one. We all know it will be a little chilly, at least, but that's part of the fun.

No tailgater is anywhere close to an insurmountable distance from Kinnick. Nearly everyone is within a reasonable walk, and the rest can take a shuttle. I don't see distance as an issue at all.

So to sum up, we could look at the glass as half-full and see the possibilities for a uniquely fun and historic day of wrestling and football in Kinnick, or we could pee in our Cheerios and assume the worst. It's about that simple.


Don't forget advantage Hawks with the black singlets, if it's sunny.....
 
OK state would have just as many lineup issues as us if not a lot more. Our lineup will be pretty much set.

141 Will be Carton unless Grothus cuts down. Don't get us started on the Brody cut. Carton will be good but not great. One things that will help him is his conditioning and motor is top notch

157 will be a hole, regardless if its Grothus, Cooper or Rhoads or whoever.

165 Likely Paddock. Could be a decent 165 after his redshirt 174 season. He could surprise but still miss the podium. Im anxious to see him at 165 vs a ranked guy.

174. Meyer can and has beaten the higher ranked OK st kid and his backups. If the cuts still ok for him he should be a darkhorse finalist type this year in a cleared out weight class.

HWT. Stoll


So really 157 is about the only mystery to me and at this point this staff should already have this addressed or its another epic fail. THey should have Brody either up or down unless Sorny said he is going 157. Which with Brody at 149 and Sorny at 157 we would be a better dual team but a lesser tourney team. I think Sorny's upside and finalist potential at 149 is just higher than Brody's or what either could do up at 157.


All that being said is I get what you are saying but I think OK state is in the same boat, maybe worse. they have some weight changes and some middle to upper weight depths to figure out.

Im just going to say this. I think Marsteller made a mistake. Hes stuck in a depth dliema for their lineup meanwhile Iowa is auditioning for any sort of 157 starter. Should have came to Iowa city. You would be starting . I talk about Stroker doesn't seem like the Gopher type and I just still don't see Marsteeler as a Cowboy either. That one still has me scratching my head 2 years later.
Pokes don't really have any line up issues, 9 starters return. Of the one spot open, Kindig, Collica is sliding in. That opens up the 57 spot for CM. Only other spots that could be in question are 84 and 97 and that is just if the starters get passed, but an out of conference dual this early I don't seeing that as an issue. Either way if it is OSU it will be fun!
 
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Hopefully I'll be able to stream the presser on Periscope. Either way we'll have video from the presser. Here we go!
 
Does the event have to be tied to a Home football game? Obviously, the chance of getting a favorable/interesting opponent would be greater if the EVENT time and date had more flexibility. I would like to see this EVENT stand on it's own for many reasons.

The attendance numbers I alluded to were not tied to a "football game piggy-back." This can be huge as a stand alone event.
 
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Does the event have to be tied to a Home football game? Obviously, the chance of getting a favorable/interesting opponent would be greater if the EVENT time and date had more flexibility. I would like to see this EVENT stand on it's own for many reasons.

The attendance numbers I alluded to were not tied to a "football game piggy-back." This can be huge as a stand alone event.

No. But it is much easier to go big numbers wise if 70,000+ people (those with tickets plus those who tailgate and don't attend the game) are already in the vicinity of Kinnick.
 
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The weather may be awful, in which case attendance will take a hit. That said, odds that it will be a high of 29 are pretty slim. That's unusual mid-November weather. No doubt it's possible, as it has happened recently, but if it happens you make the best of it. If the meet is held at mid-day, that will likely be the warmest time of day. I got this quote from weatherspark.com for November 14 weather in Iowa City: "The temperature typically varies from 36°F to 49°F and is rarely below 25°F or above 63°F." So odds are the temp will be in the low-to-mid 40's at mid-day on November 14. Not a bad chance it could be pushing 50. Pretty unlikely it will be in the 20's. It's just as likely to be a nice day as a crappy one. We all know it will be a little chilly, at least, but that's part of the fun.

No tailgater is anywhere close to an insurmountable distance from Kinnick. Nearly everyone is within a reasonable walk, and the rest can take a shuttle. I don't see distance as an issue at all.

So to sum up, we could look at the glass as half-full and see the possibilities for a uniquely fun and historic day of wrestling and football in Kinnick, or we could pee in our Cheerios and assume the worst. It's about that simple.

I agree with this. This will be held at noon, likely, and a wrestling meet lasts how long, 2.5 hours? So, with a night game, I would guess most (?) tailgaters arrive/set up around 10am. Plenty of time to party, head over to the stadium, check out the wrestling (I'm hoping it is just wide open, free or minimal, come and go as please) and head back to your tailgate by 3pm. That leaves 3 hours to re-tailgate.

No distance is that far, at least not different than already doing so for Carver, and your tailgate will be set up and you won't be leaving. Taking away the "exiting Iowa City" factor will entice people, i.e. you don't have to hit the road afterward.

This is going to be awesome. Also, there will be way more than 70,000 in the area. Even if 60,000 showed up to the football game, there is still another 30,000 (?) just tailgating/whatever in the vicinity. I've already said I think it might be 30k and would be extremely, but pleasantly, surprised by anything higher, but that is still an unreal amount for a wrestling meet.

And it will probably be 40 degrees!
 
Out of my "group", I would guess that there will definitely be 4 of us, likely 8 of us, and a shot at 15 of us. That is between 4 and 11 more than usual. If that holds true for most Iowa wrestling attendees, this could be huge.
 
I will commend those who pegged this from the start...now, let's start the season off on the right foot!
 
So- any word on how tickets will work? Nothing special that I can find on the ticket office website yet, so I am guessing they will be out with the normal season in October.
 
So- any word on how tickets will work? Nothing special that I can find on the ticket office website yet, so I am guessing they will be out with the normal season in October.

From the Press Release:

The “Grapple on the Gridiron” is included in the Iowa wrestling season ticket package, which is available for purchase at the UI Athletic Ticket Office, online at hawkeyesports.com, or over the phone at 1-800-IA-HAWKS. Season ticket holders have the first opportunity to purchase additional single tickets to “Grapple on the Gridiron.” General public tickets are available Oct. 1, 2015. Seating is reserved.
 
I call BS on this whole thing. Don't these people know the overhead for two separate events in Kinnick on the same day would be absolutely inconceivable? Er, . . .;)
 
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This is going to be awesome. Also, there will be way more than 70,000 in the area. Even if 60,000 showed up to the football game, there is still another 30,000 (?) just tailgating/whatever in the vicinity.

Where in the hell did you pull those numbers from? You think there are just 30,000 random people without tickets at every Iowa football game? We've sold out like one game in the last 3 years.

I still stand by my prediction of a football crowd in the 50s that day.
 
Where in the hell did you pull those numbers from? You think there are just 30,000 random people without tickets at every Iowa football game? We've sold out like one game in the last 3 years.

I still stand by my prediction of a football crowd in the 50s that day.

Well there is a 10k ticket student section. Let's say, generously, that it has been half full recently. Unless you believe those students are no longer tailgating, that is an immediate 5k right in the vicinity, much closer to 10k, because even when full many students didn't actually go in. Beyond that, people still tailgate when they don't go to the game. Have you ever walked near Kinnick while the game is going on? Plenty of people still out there, thousands. Add to that fact that people, you know, actually live there, there are plenty more people within easy striking distance of attending.

Yes, I think, on average B10 home game, there are ~30k people in Iowa City for game-day-stuff, but who do not attend the game.

I'm not sure where you get 50k, but you can run with it all you want. Last below 60k game was 12 years ago. And if you think it will be because of weather, well then this whole thing won't matter, because it will move to Carver.

I'll go the opposite of you. Game sells out. Minnesota games are always fun.
 
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I think Minnesota game sells out. It already has a good start. The wrestling will put it over the top.

If Iowa can somehow be 7-2 or 6-3 there is no question it will sell out. Minnesota will have a good showing this year after the ass beating they gave Iowa last year. They want nothing more than to gloat at "our place"

I also agree there are at least 25-30k tailgating but not at the game.
 
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