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Kirk apologists... sell me on why he should stay past this year?

Exactly. This is why people complaining about others not contributing to Swarm are baseless. Even if we did all pay, regardless of amount, does anyone really think Kirk would use the money properly? Hell, the people we know that have been purchased don't even play or have played too much because they're not even worth whatever amount was spent on them.

Sorry, I'm just not going to trust a guy with "donations" that can't even figure out that he should be playing Charlie Jones more or that he should utilize Hockenson and Fant to spread out a defense properly or how to evaluate a QB after 50+ years of experience or that everyone is right about his son and he shouldn't be an OC right away. The list goes on and on with examples. People can think highly about the guy all they want, I'd expect the worst coach at any level of college football, to be able to see things that I, a regular fan, can't. It shouldn't be the other way around.

He's a good man but damn, he's a horrible game/clock manager with very limited understanding of how to use his personnel properly. Yeah, no thanks on donating my limited funds. Maybe KF should start donating to it more. He probably has more than enough to make a dent in NIL.
This. Well written. As a Swarm donor, I’m torn.

I often appreciate Rico’s posts, regarding donating to the Swarm to help affect change. However, I increasingly question the return on the use of those donations. I don’t object to financial support, but I do object to pissing it away.

At this point, I may as well redirect that support to our other charities. Better impact on people’s lives. Predictably better results.
 
I think any post that references 1960-1970s is a clear sign of sarcasm….even tho there are posters here deathly afraid of Iowa going back to 1 win seasons
 
Look, we could have Nick Saban on the sidelines and we would still not have the ability to lineup and play winning football against the roster OSU has.
Agreed, but that would mean the only possible way to potentially beat O$U is to go against tendencies…something that is foreign to Ferentz.
 
Because Iowa is a 8-4/7-5 program. Absolutely their identity since Hayden. Highs are good and the lows suck but Iowa is not and will not be a blueblood.
Before 81 Iowa was traditionally a 4-5 win program over it's history. Why aspire to be something we had never been before? Because the point of competition is to aspire to be the best.
The WORST fans are the ones who don't aspire to be better. They are what is wrong with Hawkeye athletics. I personally think they are I-club/Athletic department plants to execute KF's number 1 goal at Iowa: LOWER FANS EXPECTATIONS.
Once that is accomplished, you can convince idiots at the U to pay someone 7 million to deliver the most boring product in P4 football.
 
Im.not an a

I'm not an apologist but the biggest reason for not firing is called buyout
I wonder in the NIL era if long contracts are necessary anymore.

Is an old coach like Kirk really going to leave without that perpetual 5-6 year deal?

Do players really care? Show me the money or I walk.
 
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Well Vandy beat Alabama and Marshall managed 2 TD’s against OSU when the game was still competitive. Iowa can do better. Maybe not beat OSU but we have to stop fielding the worst offenses in college football.
Upsets happen. Even to Alabama. We don't have the worst offense in college football. That was last year, and Kirk pulled ten wins out his ass. Might do it again.
 
For reference I would much much much rather suffer for 2 or 3 years than deal with this shit for one more game. Go!
explain to me how you would have 200 plus wins as opposed to a meager 199. your a great coach, right ? what would have you done different? look, i get it i get frustrated as much as the next guy but all in all he's done a god damned good job.
 
I like KF, so I am not going to address that. But if you don't think things are going to get rough next year after our entire defense is gutted, you might want to think again. Better get an offense, because the days of the defense winning games for us is going to take a step back. We lose almost all production and Phil is good and maybe it will just be a lull and not a full on rebuild, but it is going to sting either way. How much of our offensive line is done after this year?
That OL has been hit or mainly miss for 3-4 years now . Maybe some new blood won’t hurt .
 
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No matter how this season ends...he'll be back. Had Phil not saved his ass last year...there would be a much clearer trend. This will not end well for KFz. He's going to take the ship down with him.
 
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Can we get over the legendary coach crap?
explain to me how you would have 200 plus wins as opposed to a meager 199. your a great coach, right ? what would have you done different? look, i get it i get frustrated as much as the next guy but all in all he's done a god damned good job.
" a god damned good job", at what?, being mediocre? The last 6 or 7 games that Iowa has played a big time or elite team have been embarrassments and blow outs.
 
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explain to me how you would have 200 plus wins as opposed to a meager 199. your a great coach, right ? what would have you done different? look, i get it i get frustrated as much as the next guy but all in all he's done a god damned good job.
Do you count his losses too? He's the all time NCAA leader in losses. Longevity cuts both ways.
 
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Question? Do you belong to SWARM if not shut the hell up.
So we have to be part of the problem that is paying noodle arm, slippery hands McNamara in order to have an opinion?

If this is the best that NIL money can bring to Iowa, and it’s going to hamper the coaches from playing the guy that gives us a chance to win, then consider me one that says F*{% You and NIL!
 
So we have to be part of the problem that is paying noodle arm, slippery hands McNamara in order to have an opinion?

If this is the best that NIL money can bring to Iowa, and it’s going to hamper the coaches from playing the guy that gives us a chance to win, then consider me one that says F*{% You and NIL

If you haven't stepped up to help then shut up!
 
I feel like some of his pussy and chickenshit moves bleeds into the players.

Essentially his dumbass decisions tell them he doesn't believe in them
I’m trying to think….. was it 6 some years ago when the media was all about hyping Kirk 2.0 and “New Kirk” because he was doing things like going for it on 4th down that he never did before? He ended up doing that for one season despite the fact we had a ton of success doing it.

I think people appreciate the logical thinking he has, but the excruciatingly over the top conservatism that he seems to constantly show anymore is what people are so damn sick and tired of. He took two time outs and probably started hyperventilating at the thought of going for it on 4th and 1 at midfield and just couldn’t let it ride. I think fans are ok with taking chances and a HC needs to be, also. He doesn’t want to take any chances and that is what pisses people off.
 
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I think any post that references 1960-1970s is a clear sign of sarcasm….even tho there are posters here deathly afraid of Iowa going back to 1 win seasons
We do not need to go back any farther than our last coach. Let's take the years 1992, 1993 and 1994 when in the middle of his Fry's coaching career at Iowa we had 3 non-winning seasons in a row and we were 16-18-1 over that period. In 1993 we were 6-6 and had no wins against a team with a winning record. We beat a 4-6-1 Tulsa by 1 point, and a 3-8 ISU by 3 points and a 2-9 Northwestern by 4 points. Maybe winning at Iowa is not as easy as many fans think.
 
Well Vandy beat Alabama and Marshall managed 2 TD’s against OSU when the game was still competitive. Iowa can do better. Maybe not beat OSU but we have to stop fielding the worst offenses in college football.
Was that the same Vandy that lost to 2-2 Georgia State?
 
Kirk has made around $70 Million while being the HC at Iowa. The University doesn't owe him anything else, including the right to decide when his time is up at Iowa.

Iowa's last victory over a a ranked opponent came in Oct of 2001. That's ridiculous.
 
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Exactly. This is why people complaining about others not contributing to Swarm are baseless. Even if we did all pay, regardless of amount, does anyone really think Kirk would use the money properly? Hell, the people we know that have been purchased don't even play or have played too much because they're not even worth whatever amount was spent on them.

Sorry, I'm just not going to trust a guy with "donations" that can't even figure out that he should be playing Charlie Jones more or that he should utilize Hockenson and Fant to spread out a defense properly or how to evaluate a QB after 50+ years of experience or that everyone is right about his son and he shouldn't be an OC right away. The list goes on and on with examples. People can think highly about the guy all they want, I'd expect the worst coach at any level of college football, to be able to see things that I, a regular fan, can't. It shouldn't be the other way around.

He's a good man but damn, he's a horrible game/clock manager with very limited understanding of how to use his personnel properly. Yeah, no thanks on donating my limited funds. Maybe KF should start donating to it more. He probably has more than enough to make a dent in NIL.
To be fair, other issues and punting is winning have wiped out clock management mistakes. I thought I has seen the low of QB play during the Jake Christiansen years, man I was wrong after the last 2 years.
 
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