I think stability is most important to KF. He wants to win because he wants a stable career and family-life. I look at a Bill Belicheck and i think: he wants to win, because he wants to win.
Kirk knew what was coming and pushed for that extension.
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I think stability is most important to KF. He wants to win because he wants a stable career and family-life. I look at a Bill Belicheck and i think: he wants to win, because he wants to win.
I have heard him speak and you know what I hear? The same thing after every loss. He never accepts blame, he never seems to "rally the troops," or admit when things are unacceptable. These are the things that make Iowa football fans crazy. There is no piss and vinegar on this coaching staff. We don't expect to win every game, go 12-0, win every bowl game, etc.. We do expect to be competitive, make in game adjustments, fully utilize our players, have clock management skills, and not be the worst ranked team in the Big Ten when favored by double digits. That shows you how badly we play down to our competition and play not to lose ball games. Not once have I ever questioned or commented on Coach Ferentz on a personal level, but if Iowa wants to take it's football program to a higher level, I don't personally think Ferentz is the one who will take it there.
For as many games as Ferentz has won at Iowa, I think his bad losses will be his defining legacy.
I knew what kind of person Kirk was about the third year he was here and was coming off of a 1 -10 year.Going into the next year he was really on the hot seat and only had one good defensive back. That was Sapp and when he got into a fight in the dorm he kicked him out of school. It wasn't like he had a history of trouble and he left went to NIU where he was a star. Iowa went on to go 7-5 and win the Alamo Bowl. With his job on the line he stuck to his principals which I haven't ever forgotten.
As credible as rivercityjazzman is, the truth is either closer to this, or Barta flat out jumped the gun waaay too soon.
More than likely this is on Barta than anyone in KF'S party.
It doesn't even matter that Iowa has tanked in the weeks since the contract. The timing wasn't very justifiable.
I am tired of the same old sh1t. His 'were little old Iowa' is BS. We have one of the most profitable athletic dept in the US so were not little old Iowa. He has more resources available to him than 3/4 of the P5 schools. His press conferences really do insult the average fan. His game day coaching is retarded. How many people here would of taken a timeout when we had two to give with a little over two minutes till half in the Northwestern game. Everbody in the bar was screaming for him to call time. Doesn't he realize the clock stops on a first down.A frickin jr high coach is smarter than that. He might be a great guy and cares about his players. but he's hired to win football games. His schemes are getting old. What have we lost 4 bowl games in a row now. Half the time its the fans getting him to those higher bowls because we travel well. Not the team. I think Beathard is hurt and is playing at maybe 75%. Whats wrong with giving stanley a series or two. Its like he's scared to unseat the starter. Once you start at Iowa you have a gig till you graduate.
You guys are forgetting the most important thing for a football coach..... he is a nice guy.
All jokes aside I do believe he is a good person I don't know that I believe he is a good football coach in 2016. The more I think about it I realize 2015 may have been more about CJ overcoming kirk and less Kirk coaching CJ. I also think he gets way to much of a pass on qb development. 17 years in and at best you could say 1 qb improved during his time at Iowa. That alone should have made Barta hold his line until the end of this year.
All jokes aside I do believe he is a good person I don't know that I believe he is a good football coach in 2016. The more I think about it I realize 2015 may have been more about CJ overcoming kirk and less Kirk coaching CJ. I also think he gets way to much of a pass on qb development. 17 years in and at best you could say 1 qb improved during his time at Iowa. That alone should have made Barta hold his line until the end of this year.
I think the huge majority of the Fans think KF is a great man and a good coach, no argument from me, but I thought 2020 was very fair for a contact extension for someone who will be 65 years of age at that point...2026 is just crazy, and has nothing to with KF character...what is Barta thinking ..??
If he were a person of faith or a guidence counselor being a man of morals would have a higher value. He is a football coach, he gets paid to win football games. I'm not saying I want miami of the 90's but I would rather have 3 million dollar coach who doesn't give 2 craps about anything other than winning football games and 10 guidance counselors than 1 4 million dollar coach trying to do both.
I'm not gonna beat this horse to death. But I agree that it will be a few years before we make another climb. Probably 2019
There are Kirk bashers and there are Kirk defenders/apologists. He is a fine human being and all that. But he is being paid 4(+) million to put a high quality football team on the field every game, every year. That is his purpose, title, job description. This is not people complaining after a couple of losses. This is a team coming off a (Divisional) Championship year, major Bowl game and related expectations. This is what big time football is supposed to be and what last year hinted at. Instead, we are at the bottom of the Conference in stats that represent the poor performance displayed so far on the field. In other words, what we see is actually happening. This is not lost on knowledgeable fans.
KF is a great person. He runs great program. The positives of having someone with the integrity of KF here the past 15 years are many.
That being said, he has NEVER been a great X's and O's guy. Now, in his older age, he is REALLY struggling to keep up with the times.
KF on gameday is really bad. He could, however, overcome this by surrounding himself with some great coordinators, but he doesn't. They are equally as bad, and the hiring of his son only drags it down further.
Barta is just an idiot, no way to look at the situation any other way than that. KF is getting passed by quickly, and we were finally approaching our "out" to be able to move on.
Instead, Barta decided he really wants to see how bad it can get. My prediction? B A D!
Still, i have a glimmer of hope. Where is that hope? In a new staff, a new OC. If he could ditch the dead weight and put a better staff around him, he could still right this ship and head into the right direction. I just am losing faith that he will do this.
But yeah, I always say KF is simply the best in every way, except the ACTUAL coaching football on game day part.
Too bad that is a big part of the job title, right?
That being said, he has NEVER been a great X's and O's guy. Now, in his older age, he is REALLY struggling to keep up with the times.
KF on gameday is really bad. He could, however, overcome this by surrounding himself with some great coordinators, but he doesn't. They are equally as bad, and the hiring of his son only drags it down further.
Barta is just an idiot, no way to look at the situation any other way than that. KF is getting passed by quickly, and we were finally approaching our "out" to be able to move on.
Instead, Barta decided he really wants to see how bad it can get. My prediction? B A D!
Still, i have a glimmer of hope. Where is that hope? In a new staff, a new OC. If he could ditch the dead weight and put a better staff around him, he could still right this ship and head into the right direction. I just am losing faith that he will do this.
But yeah, I always say KF is simply the best in every way, except the ACTUAL coaching football on game day part.
Too bad that is a big part of the job title, right?
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This is absolutely right. If KF were willing to step outside of his comfort zone and hire young, hungry assistant coaches, we could have a great thing here. But he won't.
Yup, this is what all the older great coaches do! Their only job is to be the "figure head" on the sidelines, and stay after the refs. None of those guys pretty much have any input into the actual X's and O's most of the time. They just hire excellent assistant coaches that do all that for them.
KF decided to team up with Greg Davis.
Disastrous, pretty much all that can be said about that.
KF decided to team up with Greg Davis.
Disastrous, pretty much all that can be said about that.
The Hayden Fry coaching-tree has been talked about a lot. The Kirk Ferentz coaching-tree is non-existent. Does that prove that KF surrounds himself with yes-men who don't challenge him on things that he needs to be challenged on?
A good point of comparison to KF, would be Jim Tressel. IMO, Tressel's teams at Ohio State weren't as good as they could have been, due to Sweater-vest's conservative style. Same with KF, who obviously has less talent, is just as conservative, and probably more predictable.
Good point on Jim Tressel.
Unfortunately Ohio St was smart enough to realize this and get rid of him.
Iowa? We double and triple down, with more money than anyone would believe.
Barta is just really bad at his job.
Unfortunately Ohio St was smart enough to realize this and get rid of him.
Iowa? We double and triple down, with more money than anyone would believe.
Barta is just really bad at his job.
Last season Iowa started 12-0 and ended in the Rose Bowl for the first time in 25 years. A season where we were ranked as high as 3rd in the country. Everybody loved Kirk Ferentz.
3 games into the very next season (after the N Dakota State loss) there were people pissing and moaning about how he's ruined their life and is the worst coach in the world and want him fired.
Gotta love message boards, ideal place for the bipolar fan.
3 games into the very next season (after the N Dakota State loss) there were people pissing and moaning about how he's ruined their life and is the worst coach in the world and want him fired.
Gotta love message boards, ideal place for the bipolar fan.
Jim Tressel went 94-22 in his 10 years at tOSU (2nd best winning % in school history) winning the Big Ten something like 7 of those years.
Played in 3 national championship games winning 1.
Big underachiever.
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2015 appears to have been the outlier of the last seven seasons, including this one.
We had a three-year run 2002-04. We had a two-year run in 08-09. As of this date, we had a one-year run in 2015. That's a troublesome pattern.
Most of the frustration stems from using one season as justification for a ten-year extension. Want to give the guy an extra year? Great. Ten? Not so good, especially since we show all signs of being back in 7-5 land.
And I could be wrong, since I don't follow the Nuts, but I'm pretty sure Tressell lost his job because of off-field shenanigans.
We had a three-year run 2002-04. We had a two-year run in 08-09. As of this date, we had a one-year run in 2015. That's a troublesome pattern.
Most of the frustration stems from using one season as justification for a ten-year extension. Want to give the guy an extra year? Great. Ten? Not so good, especially since we show all signs of being back in 7-5 land.
And I could be wrong, since I don't follow the Nuts, but I'm pretty sure Tressell lost his job because of off-field shenanigans.
At this point, I'd be amazed if Iowa went 7-5. Maybe they'll surprise me and win against Minnesota and actually look good doing it. I won't hold my breath, but, damn, that would be an enjoyable shock. They play (and coach) ugly and lose to Minnesota then I'm going to be wondering how they're going to win three more games let alone four.
You posted some facts, but forgot to say that from 2010-2014 Iowa fans STARTED to really dislike KF's style. If you put 2015 in that perspective, it is a lot more understandable why many fans feel the way they feel.
As for me, I said all offseason this team had 3 or so losses coming, anything between 8-4 and 10-2 was my expectation level. We could still do that, but I don't expect it anymore. I'm not happy t see the way this team is playing. Very disappointing.
