K. Martin-Manley– @KMM_11
Iowa has been LOADED with draftable talent at WR since I can remember..If they are put to more/better use the world will see it!!
9:28 AM - 3 May 2016
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KMM firing some shots on Twitter
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K. Martin-Manley– @KMM_11
Iowa has been LOADED with draftable talent at WR since I can remember..If they are put to more/better use the world will see it!!
9:28 AM - 3 May 2016
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K. Martin-Manley– @KMM_11
Iowa has been LOADED with draftable talent at WR since I can remember..If they are put to more/better use the world will see it!!
9:28 AM - 3 May 2016
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See ya never Willies.
Maybe he doesn't know what draftable talent means.
Ya, not buying it. If what he were saying was true, our wide receivers would be making their way onto teams as undrafted free agents AND playing and making contributions. That would prove they could do it but were just under utilized. Our receivers pretty much never make an impact in the NFL.
I always seem to remember a lot of drops. Not always but definitely a decent amount from many of them, including KMM. The most sure handed guy we have had in a long time was DJK. He just liked the yayo more than football..
I sure hope KMM wasn't referring to himself. He was a mediocre at best receiver with no wheels.
Iowa's biggest issue at the WR position is talent.
Iowa's biggest issue at the WR position is talent.
You guys are all idiots. KMM clearly means the Iowa WRs block better than anybody. Draftable talent indeed.
Just goes to further prove that Iowa WRs have had a history of not knowing $hit.
Iowa WRs were also the same ones talking up Boyle ... about how he was a gamer and likely to surpass Wiegers. WRs have a bad tendency of getting "wowed" by athleticism ... but then they don't always really understand the game in the bigger picture.
I think that this perhaps demonstrates part of the reason why our WRs were underwhelming in 2014 ... you're not going to help your team win if you have an attitude like that. You need to be invested in the system that your team implements. Otherwise you're going to be blaming the offensive system for your lack of production.
Iowa WRs were also the same ones talking up Boyle ... about how he was a gamer and likely to surpass Wiegers. WRs have a bad tendency of getting "wowed" by athleticism ... but then they don't always really understand the game in the bigger picture.
I think that this perhaps demonstrates part of the reason why our WRs were underwhelming in 2014 ... you're not going to help your team win if you have an attitude like that. You need to be invested in the system that your team implements. Otherwise you're going to be blaming the offensive system for your lack of production.
There’s a chance that KMM was just giving props to his fellow receivers then and now when he tweeted, “Iowa has been LOADED with draftable talent at WR since I can remember...If they are put to more/better use the world will see it!!”
But there’s also a chance he thinks his coaches left a few too many plays on the field. I guess being the career receptions leader in the history of Iowa football and having the second-best return yardage in a game in Big Ten history (behind only Nile Kinnick) wasn’t quite enough.
I feel a twinge of irony in reading this tweet, though, when compared to an interview he gave to the QC Times in November14 of 2014. A few excerpts:
“I would trade all my catches for wins in the games we have lost....’’
“I’m doing what I can to help our team win games,’’ he said. “That’s always been my approach. You put on a uniform for your team and you do what you can to help the team have success. At the end of the day, that’s what truly matters.’’
“When Iowa committed to me, I committed to them and it’s funny how fast the time has flown by. Here it is almost over, but it’s been everything I hoped for and more,’’ Martin-Manley said. “I want to finish with a season we can all be proud of, and hopefully I can make a play or two along the way.’’
And apparently, a play or two more (but wouldn’t we all, as we look back at our own careers?).
Frankly, I respect both of his perspectives. And, something tells me that this season, he is finally going to get his wish. Thanks for the memories, KMM...
But there’s also a chance he thinks his coaches left a few too many plays on the field. I guess being the career receptions leader in the history of Iowa football and having the second-best return yardage in a game in Big Ten history (behind only Nile Kinnick) wasn’t quite enough.
I feel a twinge of irony in reading this tweet, though, when compared to an interview he gave to the QC Times in November14 of 2014. A few excerpts:
“I would trade all my catches for wins in the games we have lost....’’
“I’m doing what I can to help our team win games,’’ he said. “That’s always been my approach. You put on a uniform for your team and you do what you can to help the team have success. At the end of the day, that’s what truly matters.’’
“When Iowa committed to me, I committed to them and it’s funny how fast the time has flown by. Here it is almost over, but it’s been everything I hoped for and more,’’ Martin-Manley said. “I want to finish with a season we can all be proud of, and hopefully I can make a play or two along the way.’’
And apparently, a play or two more (but wouldn’t we all, as we look back at our own careers?).
Frankly, I respect both of his perspectives. And, something tells me that this season, he is finally going to get his wish. Thanks for the memories, KMM...
The Vikings picked a german guy who played high-school quality football because he's big and fast. I would have thought Tevauen Smith would have been less of a shot in the dark for them
Why does it seem like our passing game sucks but then the numbers prove otherwise...drives me crazy.
Because it isn't the video game style offenses you see at Baylor, Texas Tech and a lot of other places. You don't see gaudy numbers
Laughable.
Iowa has only had four 1,000 yard receivers EVER.
2011 Marvin McNutt 1,315 yds
1980 Kieth Chappelle 1,037 yds
2000 Kevin Kasper 1,010 yds
1982 Quinn Early 1,004 yds
Iowa has only had four 1,000 yard receivers EVER.
2011 Marvin McNutt 1,315 yds
1980 Kieth Chappelle 1,037 yds
2000 Kevin Kasper 1,010 yds
1982 Quinn Early 1,004 yds
This is like a reverse da coach post. The only thing missing is "fvcking" before idiots.
Quite frankly, his meaning is unambiguous. He quite clearly feels as though the WRs didn't get enough targets. He's arguing that if the Iowa WRs got to demonstrate their play-making ability more - they'd have more to show-case to the NFL and consequently they'd be viewed as being more "draftable."
If you look at the raw talent alone of guys who were at Iowa at the same time Martin-Manley, I think that you'd see guys like McNutt, Keenan Davis, and Tevaun Smith - all guys with NFL upper ceilings (in terms of potential). However, McNutt was rough around the edges and relatively easy to scout. Keenan initially was overshadowed by DJK and McNutt and, after that, he had to contend with scheme-changes on O. Lastly, Tevaun had to deal with the fact that most of the time he was playing with a starting QB who was too cautious to throw passes for him to win in jump-ball scenarios.
Overall, while Ferentz will typically opt to not put too much pressure on the D by risking turnovers - the biggest thing that undercuts the WRs is that the QBs seemingly haven't trusted them enough to throw them more jump balls. If you recall back in 2011, Vandenberg threw them to McNutt all the time. If WRs want to get the targets - they need to earn the trust of the QB - and prove that such "risks" are high percentage.
To be fair to KMM, I do think that Iowa should take more chances downfield etc, and give the receivers more chances to make plays as opposed to using them solely for 4 yard outs and blocking.
Greg Davis has even said as much (I don't know exactly which news conference it was, but I believe it was around the spring practice one).
Greg Davis has even said as much (I don't know exactly which news conference it was, but I believe it was around the spring practice one).
If they really had high NFL potential then they'd be making noise in the NFL, not as practice team guys or being cut. DJK, McNutt, and KMM had some of the best stars for Iowa receivers. It's not KF's fault the NFL doesn't think so. Also, when Iowa can start getting numerous playmakers on the outside then maybe they'll utilize them more, but unless the can block downfield it isn't going to happen. They have to be able to block in the NFL, too.
I agree, but a couple of thoughts there. One, you've got to have an OL that can block and keep your QB from getting killed (CJ can be mobile, but still, it is a risk). Two, when the team was able to go 12-0 last year in the regular season, it was hard to raise this criticism or many others... but I do agree and this was the biggest issue with Rudock at QB - teams stacked the box and knew he wouldn't have the balls to try anything deep. As I said back in the summer of 2015, if you don't at least try going deep a few times, you can't stretch the defense out and keep them honest for the running game to work.
Oh for sure. And even last year, we had a really young offensive line, so it's easy to see why we wouldn't have necessarily been comfortable with the deep passes. Regardless of Rudock/Beathard though, sometimes I just get the vibe that Iowa QB's are almost programmed to avoid the deep ball at all costs. In general, I think that if it's there, Iowa should go for it. Hopefully, with a senior QB and experienced WR/OL, we'll see some more shots
There's a few WRs in the NFL that don't block if the run isn't on their side of the field.
But he is a white kid from SD, so we don't want guys like that on our team. This kid gets ripped all the time by posters, but he catches the damn ball. Its great to have a speed burner, but I will take a kid like Vande any day.
I cant' remember if he got his hands on it but I remember Kirk going for it on 4th and 2 on the wisky 5 yard line or so down 3-0 and he threw a pass to HKC. It was incomplete but I don't know that it was a drop.
I am shocked a former player who had a lot of success here is taking cheap shots the coaches who gave him the chance to shine
K. Martin-Manley– @KMM_11
Iowa has been LOADED with draftable talent at WR since I can remember..If they are put to more/better use the world will see it!!
9:28 AM - 3 May 2016
8 RETWEETS21 LIKES
See ya never Willies.
McNutt stuck around with Carolina for a few years. Other than that has any other WR in the KMM era made the first cut in a NFL camp?
Yeah - I don't know what ESPN is talking about with their data. There were some targets to Henry that weren't receptions. However, I'll agree that I don't remember any balls that he dropped. Whenever he didn't come down with one ... it was fiercely contested. Otherwise, it was a catch.
Same thing applied to VandeBerg - Beathard overthrew him a few times and there were plenty of well-defended balls. But, I don't recall many/any drops by him.
On the flip side ... I still painfully remember Tevaun's drop against MSU in Indy. Lost it in the light? Sheesh ....
