KMM firing some shots on Twitter

[ghostOfHomer777]

Because it isn't the video game style offenses you see at Baylor, Texas Tech and a lot of other places. You don't see gaudy numbers

However, Alabama, Michigan State, and Michigan all play Iowa's style of ball. Their WRs do okay ... and get NFL attention to boot. Part of the equation is talent ... Alabama and Michigan always recruit high-end talent. Michigan State has a nice tradition at WR and its successful at mining the talent in its back yard.

However, the ultimate other part of the equation is whether the QB gives the WRs the targets ... and places the ball in catchable zones. For example, MSU's Lippett didn't do crap until Cook finally emerged as a passer (sadly, his emergence occurred in a game against Iowa). Michigan's Chesson didn't emerge as a bigger threat until Jakey finally got over his phobia of throwing it long.

The good news for Iowa fans is that Beathard is a QB who isn't afraid of airing the ball out. The problem last year was that he was injured essentially through the entire season - that clearly impacted his accuracy. Furthermore, his injury impacted his mobility - and that influenced his ability to "create time" for his WRs to get open.

 

[swagsurfer02]

But he is a white kid from SD, so we don't want guys like that on our team. This kid gets ripped all the time by posters, but he catches the damn ball. Its great to have a speed burner, but I will take a kid like Vande any day.

Maybe we should only recruit from Iowa and South Dakota?

 

[whatsup13579er]

However, Alabama, Michigan State, and Michigan all play Iowa's style of ball. Their WRs do okay ... and get NFL attention to boot. Part of the equation is talent ...

If you graduate from Iowa, at any position, you are going to get a shot in the NFL if you keep your nose clean. Not to put the kid down or anything but Hillyer is getting a shot with the Bears. He was the 5th or 6th receiving option last year? If Iowa was mis-using him the last 5 years and is truly and NFL talent. The Bears will keep him. If he can't cut it, the Bears will cut him. It's that simple. He has his shot. It has nothing to do with the offensive style he played in college.

 

[aintlifeordeath]

Maybe we should only recruit from Iowa and South Dakota?

Maybe you missed the part where I said it is also great to have speed guys? Would you rather not have a guy on your team that catches everything within reach of him? It's quite a stretch to take my post as meaning we should only recruit from Iowa and SD. I think you're better than that.

 

[swagsurfer02]

Maybe you missed the part where I said it is also great to have speed guys? Would you rather not have a guy on your team that catches everything within reach of him? It's quite a stretch to take my post as meaning we should only recruit from Iowa and SD. I think you're better than that.

I'd rather have guys who can run, catch, and block. I don't care where they are from.

 

[aintlifeordeath]

I'd rather have guys who can run, catch, and block. I don't care where they are from.

Been my position all along.

 

[swagsurfer02]

Been my position all along.

I want a reciever that can put up 1,000 yards receiving. I don't think South Dakota produces those which is why in a perfect word Vandeberg is a #3 or at the very most a #2 WR.

 

[aintlifeordeath]

He doesn't have to be a #1 in order to be worth having on the field.

 

[swagsurfer02]

He doesn't have to be a #1 in order to be worth having on the field.

I was just stating my opinion, however I'm not sure that he isn't the #1 WR.

 

[aintlifeordeath]

My argument from the start was simply that Vande has been hammered as not being worthy of a spot on the field, when every team needs a sure handed possession guy to compliment the deep threats. Not his fault that we don't have that deep guy, but I'd bet you a dollar that Beathard likes him on the field.

 

[Blackhawk6]

But he is a white kid from SD, so we don't want guys like that on our team. This kid gets ripped all the time by posters, but he catches the damn ball. Its great to have a speed burner, but I will take a kid like Vande any day.

I've read nearly every Lounge comment since Vandy started playing for Iowa, and have YET to see him ripped. Quit making up things. "...so we don't want white kids on our team" is the most ignorant comment I've seen in years.

 

[aintlifeordeath]

If you have never seen a post saying essentially that we will never be good with guys like Vande on the field then I don't know what to say to you. White Iowa kids playing skill positions get ripped all the time on here. No different than needing more "athletic urban" kids on the basketball team instead of guys like Gesell or Oglseby. Both teams simply need better players, regardless of skin color or where they come from.

 

[ghostOfHomer777]

If you graduate from Iowa, at any position, you are going to get a shot in the NFL if you keep your nose clean. Not to put the kid down or anything but Hillyer is getting a shot with the Bears. He was the 5th or 6th receiving option last year? If Iowa was mis-using him the last 5 years and is truly and NFL talent. The Bears will keep him. If he can't cut it, the Bears will cut him. It's that simple. He has his shot. It has nothing to do with the offensive style he played in college.

That's precisely my point ... the style of offense has no bearing on the quality of the player. It may impact HOW MANY WRs on a single team put up gaudy stats ... but Iowa WRs will get their looks from the NFL as much as other WRs.

My retort was mainly aimed at the poster who suggested that Iowa-like offenses don't produce WRs with excellent stat-sheets. That's not at all true.

 

[swagsurfer02]

If you have never seen a post saying essentially that we will never be good with guys like Vande on the field then I don't know what to say to you. White Iowa kids playing skill positions get ripped all the time on here. No different than needing more "athletic urban" kids on the basketball team instead of guys like Gesell or Oglseby. Both teams simply need better players, regardless of skin color or where they come from.

If he's Larry Bird sign him up. My gripe with Oglesby was he was a shooter that couldn't shoot. Gesell just struggled at the end of games.

 

[David1979]

I've read nearly every Lounge comment since Vandy started playing for Iowa, and have YET to see him ripped. Quit making up things. "...so we don't want white kids on our team" is the most ignorant comment I've seen in years.

You haven't been paying attention if you think he doesn't get ripped.