Kreiner is going to be legit
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I certainly wouldn't call them 'junk' points. A couple of nice baskets underneath even when he was completely behind the backboard. Nice jump shots from 10 feet or so. Those aren't gimees on our team (tho seem to be for opponents).
And you wonder why you see so many "jfc." You are one of the worst posters on this site. When responding to stupid, using jimmeny flicking Christmas seems legit.
Kreiner is a good low post center than can hit when facing the basket. Kreiner has shown the ability shoot and score with hooks and lay ups from both hands inside. RK has a very big frame and is just going to get bigger and stronger. He's already improving his rebounding positioning. As RK's body gets wider and stronger it will be progressively harder to get over or around him for boards without fouling. He's got nice touch and has shown the ability the pass it back out.
Much more skilled than Jackes, and much bigger.
Much more skilled than Jackes, and much bigger.
IMO he is the best 5 on the team at this point in terms of total game (scoring, rebounding and defense). If he keeps improving he will be a very productive player for Hawks!
Looks much better than Woody was as a Frosh. Not a slam on Woodbury, different type of players. He has an outside shot and is more agile and quicker.
Now Fran has to find Dailey some minutes. Kid has a big upside on both ends of the court,
Not so sure about Dailey. Kriener has looked pretty good every time he plays (except for getting his pocket picked several times, but strength will help that). I haven't really seen Dailey do much any time he gets in (tho to be fair, he plays so little I can't remember much about him other than is is EXTREMELY skinny).
I felt this way a dozen games ago. Every time he got in, he produced. Not afraid to take a shot, and he makes a good chunk of them. He appears to hustle as best he can at his size. Kid can play. Don't know if he'll ever be great, but he'll contribute plenty. Pemsl and Cook have had some good moments, but overall Kreiner has been the better player, IMO.
Kriener makes me think of Jerry Dennard. Although i think he will have a much better, longer career.
Both are about the same size, long arms and have an inside out game.
Id agree, RK is probably more skilled at this point. Hes going to be really good.
Totally different players.
I still cant get over that there were people mad about Fran offering him saying he was another Woodbury.
Me too. But what I like more was watching Ryan and Cordell going WWE with Haas! Keep up the good work guys.
I mentioned it last week I believe and started to post it here (Chris Street comparison), but since it required more research I put it in a separate thread if people don't mind.
Street as a freshman obviously. Don't think Kriener will peak as high as Street, but there's a lot to like and a lot of similarities.
Street as a freshman obviously. Don't think Kriener will peak as high as Street, but there's a lot to like and a lot of similarities.
Have to say I really didn't see this coming from Kreiner....
When the topic of possible transfers came up a few weeks ago I was thinking Kreiner was a possibility......
Don't remember a guy going from the end of the bench to being a 20 min a game guy in like 3 weeks.....very impressive last few games from the kid.
When the topic of possible transfers came up a few weeks ago I was thinking Kreiner was a possibility......
Don't remember a guy going from the end of the bench to being a 20 min a game guy in like 3 weeks.....very impressive last few games from the kid.
Kriener should start at center the rest of the year , he's also fresh since he was injured in the beginning of the year and hasn't played a bunch of minutes until recently.
Let's hope jok is back to 100 percent if he isn't sit him until he is because he was doing incredible things when he was healthy.
Fran will start cook he was promised that when he signed on just like Gesell and Woodbury were.
I love our bench and want to keep it that way but one of the big men are going to transfer unless Garza redshirts who I've seen video of is good but same kind of player as Kriener garza is not as quick he needs to redshirt next year.
Nunge I see him being used as a three his video reminds me so much as a JU it's crazy.
Still can't believe we beat Ohio state easily without Jok, now this young group needs to learn to win on the road and if we can't beat Rutgers then we aren't going to learn how to beat a team on the road this year.
This team has surpassed my expectations I figured we would win 4-5 Big ten wins this year, I'm just happy Fran finally got the recruits for the most part he wanted he's got the best eye in the big ten for talent, he's always first to offer a 3 star guy and then some team in players state steals with at the last moment(happ,OG, 4 star Moore,) that's just a few and of course ullis but everyguy has turned out to be a NBA pick which is amazing when it's like a guy rated 138 in that class.
I think the next recruiting classes are going to be great, and if joe were black he would be a top 10 recruit the guy is so athletic and has 0 weaknesses and can jump out of the gym. I don't understand how ESPN had him as a 5 star rated 16 to now a 43 when he's averaging 35 PPG in high school and if he stays healthy will have the most points in Iowa basketball history for high school. I think in 2 years and beyond Iowa will be competing for championships ever year so sit back and just have fun with this season and next. Then the top 10-20 teams Iowa will have every year.
Can't wait for the future I'm just having fun with this season and seeing these freshman exceed my expectations except cook but he will be a superstar when he's a junior and senior.
Let's hope jok is back to 100 percent if he isn't sit him until he is because he was doing incredible things when he was healthy.
Fran will start cook he was promised that when he signed on just like Gesell and Woodbury were.
I love our bench and want to keep it that way but one of the big men are going to transfer unless Garza redshirts who I've seen video of is good but same kind of player as Kriener garza is not as quick he needs to redshirt next year.
Nunge I see him being used as a three his video reminds me so much as a JU it's crazy.
Still can't believe we beat Ohio state easily without Jok, now this young group needs to learn to win on the road and if we can't beat Rutgers then we aren't going to learn how to beat a team on the road this year.
This team has surpassed my expectations I figured we would win 4-5 Big ten wins this year, I'm just happy Fran finally got the recruits for the most part he wanted he's got the best eye in the big ten for talent, he's always first to offer a 3 star guy and then some team in players state steals with at the last moment(happ,OG, 4 star Moore,) that's just a few and of course ullis but everyguy has turned out to be a NBA pick which is amazing when it's like a guy rated 138 in that class.
I think the next recruiting classes are going to be great, and if joe were black he would be a top 10 recruit the guy is so athletic and has 0 weaknesses and can jump out of the gym. I don't understand how ESPN had him as a 5 star rated 16 to now a 43 when he's averaging 35 PPG in high school and if he stays healthy will have the most points in Iowa basketball history for high school. I think in 2 years and beyond Iowa will be competing for championships ever year so sit back and just have fun with this season and next. Then the top 10-20 teams Iowa will have every year.
Can't wait for the future I'm just having fun with this season and seeing these freshman exceed my expectations except cook but he will be a superstar when he's a junior and senior.
I have heard that he is very young for a freshman. So I guess it's possible he could grow an inch or two to go with his long arms.
Kriener and Garza are going to be a load for opponents at the center position. Then add in Nunge at the 3, Cook/Pemsl at the 4 and Baer as the 6th man, you've got quite a front court. The back court still needs some help tho, especially at pg.
Barring injury, I would be shocked if Garza redshirts. He and Kriener will make a nice tandem at the 5, while kriener will have the ability to slide to the four if needed. Transfers happen in college basketball, so the odds are strong that someone will depart after this season, it's just a matter of who at this point. Let the players decide it on the court, competition isn't a bad thing.
As for your comment about Fran making promises to players regarding starting spots, you're clearly making that up. Woody offered the best post defense we had from day 1 and Gesell was our best option at point from day one, seems pretty simple to me.
I'm not 100 percent of him guaranteed playing time but I'm not ripping Fran for doing that if he does it's hard to get top notch talent at Iowa. So if he is promising they start from day 1 like I think he does I have no problem with that. Because we are never going to be a school that can get anybody we want.
Completely agree with the premise, but honestly there's no reason to think this young team can play at that level for four straight games. Seems to me they string together a couple of good games, and then stumble for a few. But make no mistakes, if they do and get to 15-10, I'll start doing some mental gymnastics with "what if"...
Obviously no one but Kreiner knows with certainty but I've heard it described that he is still growing. Heard it last summer and he is clearly taller than Cook.
Hard not to be high on Hawks future inside.
Hard not to be high on Hawks future inside.
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