Labas?
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I fundamentally disagree with that because of both my own experiences as a coach as well as what happened to Jake C when he was thrown to the wolves behind the atrocious 2007 OL.
Exactly. If you are afraid to throw in an 11/25 109 yards 0 TDs and 1 INT effort from your 3-year senior starter because of fear of the unknown, then it’s time to hang it up. This isn’t even about having the stones to play a young quarterback. This is about establishing a belief that mustering a 109 yard passing effort against an FCS team is not as good as it gets at Iowa.
Frosty! It can't get any worse! Spencer is absolutely NOT doing anything out there that any of our other QBs can't do.
If the other guys - who are more fleet-footed by the way - can go out there and completely suck as Spencer does/did...at least they're mobile....
I can't comprehend how you agree with the idea of moving forward with Spencer Petras. Just doesn't make sense.
Stop putting words into my mouth. I did not say "move forward with Petras". I want Padilla to be given the reins.
But throwing a young QB into the fire before he's ready, especially behind a suspect OL, is a surefire way to stunt their development.
Frosty is KF's burner account. It's the only way he makes sense as a person.
HOW IN THE HOLY F*CK COULD THIS COACHING STAFF POSSIBLY "STUNT THE DEVELOPMENT" OF THEIR QB'S ANY WORSE THAN THEY HAVE ALREADY????
So we wait and wait and wait...and then figure out no development ever occurred.
Might as well try now. This is not trying to throw a 16-year-old into the collegiate ranks. This is a second year college player.
Jesus Christ why do our recruits need so much time to "develop???" Pathetic. Three-year linemen are young?? Get the fu** out of here.
Ah yes, the standard message board binary thought of "hurr durr burner account", even when I've posted in this very thread how SP sucks.
Finally changing your tone huh, well good for you for seeing the light. Even if it took you this long.
Bro I was saying last year that I didn't think Petras was all that good and BF was backsliding as a playcaller.
But because HR is a never ending shitshow of who can be more outraged than each other, dipshits who can only envision two extremes constantly misunderstand.
What is your analysis of SP's execution on the throw-back screen that was set up for a TD?
Dude. You have been the biggest defender of the people in charge of this shitshow. Own it.
You've said this time and time again and every time I ask you to prove it you back away like a pussy.
You've consistently said he's our best option and are always quick to defend the coaches decisions. Glad you realize it's time for a change though.
Well, it could actually be much worse but I doubt that will happen with a change of QB. I think Alex is probably worse than Spencer but, at this point, we know we are going to get shit with Spencer. This wasn't his first start it was like his 19th start. We know what we are getting.
The learning the offense excuse needs to end; it no longer matters. If knowledge of the entire offense is necessary and a guy starting for the third year delivers a game like today that knowledge is wasted on an inability to execute.
Maybe Labas just runs the plays that are called. Maybe we shrink the package of options Joe can call. The two QBs before him have sucked in most games they played, although to give Spencer credit, he was better a year ago until the wheels came off against Purdue. Had the entire off season to fix his problems. He regressed instead.
Joe seems like a pretty cocky kid. I don't think the shitty line play will shell shock him. He might turn some of the broken backfield situations into downfield gains. Spencer cannot do that and Alex has never looked better at it than Spencer-his long run last season was a measly 6 yards-either.
This really says it all. Whatever comes next,
The learning the offense excuse needs to end; it no longer matters. If knowledge of the entire offense is necessary and a guy starting for the third year delivers a game like today that knowledge is wasted on an inability to execute.
Maybe Labas just runs the plays that are called. Maybe we shrink the package of options Joe can call. The two QBs before him have sucked in most games they played, although to give Spencer credit, he was better a year ago until the wheels came off against Purdue. Had the entire off season to fix his problems. He regressed instead.
Joe seems like a pretty cocky kid. I don't think the shitty line play will shell shock him. He might turn some of the broken backfield situations into downfield gains. Spencer cannot do that and Alex has never looked better at it than Spencer-his long run last season was a measly 6 yards-either.
This really says it all. Whatever comes next,
Best does not always mean good. But thanks for proving exactly what I said about HR not being able to understand nuance in the slightest.
Him and @ghostOfHomer777. How it’s such a great strategy to not make a 1st down and just go ahead and punt. Lol. It’s not a strategy. It’s called being inept.
The one thing I keep seeing about Padilla is how everyone is saying he is the same or not as good as Petras. To be fair to Padilla That was his first game action last year and theoretically he should have improved and got better for this season. I would like to see what Padilla has and his growth this past off season before we move on to Labas.
I understand it just fine. I also never said you thought Petras was good, just that you were a defender of the decision to start him. Which I've thought was flat out wrong since mid way though last season.
Hawks won today though, I don't want to keep going back and forth on semantics.
Well, let's see. You just posted an excuse for why the OL sucks. Too young. Again. They were too young last year. Why have they been "too young" two conecutive years?When was the last time they put even an average O line on the field? You admit DeJong shouldn't be starting. You even admit Petras shouldn't be starting. So why are they?
Did you or did you not argue that making BF the QB coach was the right decision?
You defend KF EVERY TIME in any discussion.
I would like to see SP have the same length of leash Padilla did last year.
D lineman were smaller than Petras on the teams he played against in highschool. Zero threat to run, just highlights of deep throws.
Not saying Labas would be better, but how much worse can he be?
Agreed that much of the blame is on or unqualified OC and QB coach. Maybe he'll add "kicking coach" to his list of titles
If Spencer is truly the best option, then the recruiter for QBs should be dismissed.
If Spencer isn't truly the best option, then the decision maker/evaluator should be dismissed.
If Spencer isn't truly the best option, then the decision maker/evaluator should be dismissed.
Nah ... I think that it has more to do with having a competent surrounding cast around him before throwing him to the wolves.
I think that Labas CAN and WILL get his shot ... however, it has to be done correctly in order to appropriately set him up for success.
Lmao you're a ****ing dipshit. How is ANY of that "defense"?
I said the OL is young because they ARE. I didn't say it was an excuse.
Who is responsible for not recruiting, training, and retaining O linemen? Who is responsible for keeping Petras and DeJong on the field?
Do Kirk and Mary let you stay up this late?
Contrary to what your video games may tell you, development isn't something you dump points into and it automatically happens at a pre-determined rate.
Has. He's also called stinkers. What I saw of the play-calling today was average, but the execution was well below that.
Yeah, AP probably wasn't a whole lot better than SP was last year, but I agree that he had a much better chance of improving compared to last year vs. Petras, who obviously will not get any better from here on out. That was my main argument during the off-season - AP passing SP for the QB1 would have been best for the program. Unfortunately, he did not or was not allowed to.
I coached and officiated, too. You didn't answer my question: who owns the shitshow?
It's a dumb question because we both know the answer.
I've never once insinuated KF is blameless or perfect. But because morons like yourself can't understand any argument that's not pure praise or unhinged rage, we get where we are now.
In fairness the first two were one or two seasons ago, and Davidkov is in the same class as Colby, Stephens, and Jones. He probably be no more ready then they are......
Im still shaking my head about the absolute shit show we all witnessed by the offense today. What an embarrassment.
How the defense and offense can be so opposite skill/development wise
This. Petras gets three years to patiently develop and Padilla gets 3-4 series vs Nebraska and he will suck forever I guess.
They did bring in the former Wisky guy and OCoord Budmayer but he cant overrule or change Brian.
And what kind of "mold" or you talking about, fungus type mold growing on the offense of this program or a mold of a great QB like Marino, Brady, Manning??
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