Lack of boys groups and role models are hurting young boys

[Hawk_82]

Girling the Boy Scouts

Progressives notch another victory in their war on American institutions.

www.city-journal.org

Women are are being allowed into boys spaces, but what effect does this have on boys?

There are some interesting stats in this article about how women are receiving all the extra attention despite men falling behind in education, life expectancy, cancer rates, overdoses, etc.

I have been disappointed how boyscouts have gone woke. I thought there was a lot of benefit for boys to be boys without the pressure of girls around.

 

[LuteHawk]

One of the best role models a boy can have.......is his father.
It was true for me. He taught me to work hard whether it was
in the classroom, the baseball field, or a part-time job in the
Summer. He wanted me to go to college and I did. Most of the
success I had was due to the lessons I learned from my dad.

 

[B1GDeal]

Did Cub scouts for a couple of years and Boys Scouts for a couple of years. Was pretty corny... we did it to camp and cuz our parents made us. Got far more from playing sports (coaches) and as I got into middle and HS from a couple of good teachers.

 

[fivecardstud14]

Girling the Boy Scouts

Progressives notch another victory in their war on American institutions.

www.city-journal.org

Women are are being allowed into boys spaces, but what effect does this have on boys?

There are some interesting stats in this article about how women are receiving all the extra attention despite men falling behind in education, life expectancy, cancer rates, overdoses, etc.

I have been disappointed how boyscouts have gone woke. I thought there was a lot of benefit for boys to be boys without the pressure of girls around.

You definitely seem like the type of boy scouts leader who tries to bang the kids.

 

[InsaneHawkJJP]

You definitely seem like the type of boy scouts leader who tries to bang the kids.

I was thinking the same thing!

 

[alaskanseminole]

You definitely seem like the type of boy scouts leader who tries to bang the kids.

Why is it just because we don't like the OP, we can't discuss the premise? The impact a lack of male, or father figure has on young boys is worthy of discussion, IMO.

 

[McLovin32]

Did Cub scouts for a couple of years and Boys Scouts for a couple of years. Was pretty corny... we did it to camp and cuz our parents made us. Got far more from playing sports (coaches) and as I got into middle and HS from a couple of good teachers.

This X 1000

 

[fivecardstud14]

Why is it just because we don't like the OP, we can't discuss the premise? The impact a lack of male, or father figure has on young boys is worthy of discussion, IMO.

No arguments there. But OP specifically has shown he’s not worthy of serious discussion so if I were to discuss the premise, it certainly wouldn’t be with him.

 

[Colonoscopy]

Why is it just because we don't like the OP, we can't discuss the premise? The impact a lack of male, or father figure has on young boys is worthy of discussion, IMO.

Cause my team good, your team bad!

 

[Hawki97]

Why is it just because we don't like the OP, we can't discuss the premise? The impact a lack of male, or father figure has on young boys is worthy of discussion, IMO.

Big Brothers Big Sisters of America should be 10x more funded and participated in than it is. IMHO.

Edit to add: OP probably thinks getting the kid a gun and a camaro with a jug of toxic masculinity is the cure. That’s why I wouldn’t discuss it with him.

 

[fivecardstud14]

Cause my team good, your team bad!

You haven’t a clue about “what team” I’m on. Stick to your shitty jokes that are stolen from shitty comedians.

 

[SB_SB]

Girling the Boy Scouts

Progressives notch another victory in their war on American institutions.

www.city-journal.org

Women are are being allowed into boys spaces, but what effect does this have on boys?

There are some interesting stats in this article about how women are receiving all the extra attention despite men falling behind in education, life expectancy, cancer rates, overdoses, etc.

I have been disappointed how boyscouts have gone woke. I thought there was a lot of benefit for boys to be boys without the pressure of girls around.

I love when life makes me think of Brady Bunch episodes.

 

[alaskanseminole]

Big Brothers Big Sisters of America should be 10x more funded and participated in than it is. IMHO.

I totally agree that Big Brothers Big Sisters of America should be way more funded and supported. Given the shifting focus of organizations like the Boy Scouts of America, which are moving away from their traditional roles, I think it's important we increase support for programs that provide strong, positive male (and female) mentorship and guidance.

Edit to add: OP probably thinks getting the kid a gun and a camaro with a jug of toxic masculinity is the cure. That’s why I wouldn’t discuss it with him.

That's fair. I'll discuss it with you, though.


Here's the TL;DR Summary from the OP's article:


The Boy Scouts of America has undergone significant changes to align with contemporary values of diversity and inclusivity. Since admitting girls to its program in 2019 and rebranding as Scouts BSA, the organization has removed the term "boy" from its promotional materials and introduced a Chief Diversity Officer. As part of its commitment to diversity, all Eagle Scouts are now required to earn a badge in diversity, equity, and inclusion. The recent renaming to Scouting America reflects an ongoing shift towards inclusivity, aiming to appeal to a broader audience by eliminating traditional male-specific elements.

Critics argue that this rebranding and the removal of "boy" from the organization's name signify a broader cultural trend that seeks to diminish male-specific institutions and roles. They contend that the progressive drive to reframe institutions like the Boy Scouts reflects a desire to erase traditional male-centric values and identities. This change is seen as part of a larger movement that prioritizes inclusivity at the expense of historical and cultural traditions associated with masculinity.

The transformation of the Boy Scouts is viewed by some as a loss of an institution that once played a critical role in fostering self-reliance and camaraderie among boys. Critics point out that, amid rising fatherlessness and other societal challenges, the Boy Scouts’ original mission of developing young males through a male-specific code of honor and self-discipline has been overshadowed by modern DEI initiatives. This shift, they argue, risks undermining the unique benefits that such a male-focused organization provided, potentially leaving a void in addressing the needs of boys and their development.

 

[NoleATL]

Why is it just because we don't like the OP, we can't discuss the premise? The impact a lack of male, or father figure has on young boys is worthy of discussion, IMO.

He lost me at any intelligent conversation when he said "woke".

 

[alaskanseminole]

Did Cub scouts for a couple of years and Boys Scouts for a couple of years. Was pretty corny... we did it to camp and cuz our parents made us. Got far more from playing sports (coaches) and as I got into middle and HS from a couple of good teachers.

There have been studies that show a direct correlation to sports and life success, one of which showed a correlation between bad sports experiences and negative life impact as well as the positive. I'll have to hit the Googles.

 

[ThorneStockton]

This is all by design, look no further than the WEF bylaws and mandates.

 

[HawkNester]

Social media and the internet are the biggest issue.

 

[alaskanseminole]

He lost me at any intelligent conversation when he said "woke".

I get it, but seems more often than not we can't even start a convo because of who is posing the question(s). I'll try to out think them and post first next time.

 

[alaskanseminole]

Social media and the internet are the biggest issue.

Such a HUGE NEGATIVE impact, that most agree with, but few want to act on.

 

[alaskanseminole]

Cause my team good, your team bad!

Outside of the Noles and Bucs, I don't have a team.

 

[NoleATL]

I get it, but seems more often than not we can't even start a convo because of who is posing the question(s). I'll try to out think them and post first next time.

And, I absolutely think there is a conversation to be had on this subject. I just choose carefully who I converse with on such subjects.

 

[alaskanseminole]

There have been studies that show a direct correlation to sports and life success, one of which showed a correlation between bad sports experiences and negative life impact as well as the positive. I'll have to hit the Googles.

There are several studies that explore the correlation between youth sports participation and future life success. Research generally supports the idea that positive experiences in youth sports can have a beneficial impact on various aspects of future life success. Here are some key findings:

1. Academic Achievement: Studies have found a positive correlation between participation in sports and higher academic performance. For instance, a study published in the Journal of Sports Science & Medicine found that students involved in sports tend to have better academic outcomes due to the development of discipline, time management skills, and improved physical health, which can contribute to better cognitive function.
2. Social Skills and Emotional Development: Participation in youth sports is linked to enhanced social skills and emotional development. According to research published in the American Journal of Lifestyle Medicine, sports can help children develop teamwork, leadership, and communication skills. These skills are valuable throughout life and can contribute to personal and professional success.
3. Future Career Success: There is evidence suggesting that individuals who participate in sports during their youth are more likely to have successful careers. A study from the Journal of Applied Sport Psychology showed that the leadership and problem-solving skills gained through sports can translate into better performance in the workplace.
4. Psychological Benefits: Engaging in sports can provide psychological benefits, such as improved self-esteem and resilience. Research from the International Journal of Sport and Exercise Psychology indicates that the experiences and challenges faced in sports can foster a strong sense of self-efficacy and the ability to cope with stress.

However, it's important to note that the impact of youth sports can vary based on the quality of the experience. Positive outcomes are more likely when the sports environment is supportive and inclusive. Negative experiences, such as excessive pressure, overemphasis on winning, or poor coaching, can potentially lead to stress or burnout, which may diminish the benefits.

Overall, while the evidence suggests a generally positive correlation between youth sports and future success, the specific impact can depend on the individual’s experiences and the environment in which they participate.

 

[Colonoscopy]

He lost me at any intelligent conversation when he said "woke".

What word you like then? It's more about what someone is trying to say.

 

[Menace Sockeyes]

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There are some interesting stats in this article about how women are receiving all the extra attention despite men falling behind in education, life expectancy, cancer rates, overdoses, etc.

I agree. We should start by not electing any 78 year old, terminally whiny, victim complex, beta males as our President. This will only further young boys’ view of their gender as inferior.

 

[HawkMachine]

Honest question, how can the following be fixed?

 

[hawkeye54545]

I actually will take an unpopular opinion on this subject.

I think it's OK to have groups just for boys and girls.

 

[B1GDeal]

There are several studies that explore the correlation between youth sports participation and future life success. Research generally supports the idea that positive experiences in youth sports can have a beneficial impact on various aspects of future life success. Here are some key findings:

1. Academic Achievement: Studies have found a positive correlation between participation in sports and higher academic performance. For instance, a study published in the Journal of Sports Science & Medicine found that students involved in sports tend to have better academic outcomes due to the development of discipline, time management skills, and improved physical health, which can contribute to better cognitive function.
2. Social Skills and Emotional Development: Participation in youth sports is linked to enhanced social skills and emotional development. According to research published in the American Journal of Lifestyle Medicine, sports can help children develop teamwork, leadership, and communication skills. These skills are valuable throughout life and can contribute to personal and professional success.
3. Future Career Success: There is evidence suggesting that individuals who participate in sports during their youth are more likely to have successful careers. A study from the Journal of Applied Sport Psychology showed that the leadership and problem-solving skills gained through sports can translate into better performance in the workplace.
4. Psychological Benefits: Engaging in sports can provide psychological benefits, such as improved self-esteem and resilience. Research from the International Journal of Sport and Exercise Psychology indicates that the experiences and challenges faced in sports can foster a strong sense of self-efficacy and the ability to cope with stress.

However, it's important to note that the impact of youth sports can vary based on the quality of the experience. Positive outcomes are more likely when the sports environment is supportive and inclusive. Negative experiences, such as excessive pressure, overemphasis on winning, or poor coaching, can potentially lead to stress or burnout, which may diminish the benefits.

Overall, while the evidence suggests a generally positive correlation between youth sports and future success, the specific impact can depend on the individual’s experiences and the environment in which they participate.

This is almost always their own parents. Nobody cares after 5 minutes who won or lost a game until high school. And, even then wins/losses in HS often don't mean much. Its the hard work, dedication, time management, team work, leadership, handling success/adversity, etc... these are what help young people develop.

 

[McLovin32]

Honest question, how can the following be fixed?

What on earth does a gif of a rap video have to do with Boy Scouts?

 

[Colonoscopy]

I actually will take an unpopular opinion on this subject.

I think it's OK to have groups just for boys and girls.

We still have girl scouts.

 

[alaskanseminole]

I actually will take an unpopular opinion on this subject.

I think it's OK to have groups just for boys and girls.

Not sure why that is unpopular. I think it's fantastic and have never had an issue with it. There just needs to be equal access to activities for both is all. For example, a town should have both a Boys and Girls scout club, not either or.

 

[Menace Sockeyes]

Honest question, how can the following be fixed?

Equal economic opportunity and strong public education, from pre-K on. And the data on that is pretty clear.

 

[Formerly Rockymtnole]

Why is it just because we don't like the OP, we can't discuss the premise? The impact a lack of male, or father figure has on young boys is worthy of discussion, IMO.

Maybe he shouldn’t lead with the “woke” nonsense and people would engage.

Also, you’re aware of his posting history?

 

[B1GDeal]

Equal economic opportunity and strong public education, from pre-K on. And the data on that is pretty clear.

Yep, a solid child care program/system and universal Pre-K would go a long ways to solving some issues.

 

[TarponSpringsNole]

I actually will take an unpopular opinion on this subject.

I think it's OK to have groups just for boys and girls.

Of course it is. I’m not a fan of allowing girls into Boy Scouts.

 

[NoleATL]

Of course it is. I’m not a fan of allowing girls into Boy Scouts.

I'm with you and I'd venture to guess 90% of my friends are, too...

 

[Menace Sockeyes]

Of course it is. I’m not a fan of allowing girls into Boy Scouts.

I actually will take an unpopular opinion on this subject.

I think it's OK to have groups just for boys and girls.

I think that the allowing of girls into the Boy Scouts was done more out of survival after all those scout masters were raping kids. And as far as not allowing one gender into the organization, a wise group of men once said “separate is inherently unequal” and they were right.

 

[Colonoscopy]

My take on males is that they need to be socialized a bit differently than females and need a stronger guiding hand if you want them to turn into good citizens.

Society in its current configuration is probably more female friendly this way.

If boy scouts was doing a good job of this... lets not lose it or water it down or worry about making it more suitable for females. We have enough of that, they're not left wanting.

 

[BelemNole]

Why is it just because we don't like the OP, we can't discuss the premise? The impact a lack of male, or father figure has on young boys is worthy of discussion, IMO.

How does having a random girl in the troop remove the father figure from the kids in Boy Scouts?
I find OPs premise stupid as he is.

 

[Colonoscopy]

And as far as not allowing one gender into the organization, a wise group of men once said “separate is inherently unequal” and they were right.

Oh come on. You're overextending that idea.

There are enough psychological differences that they end up sorting themselves out into a same sex groups anyway. That you might have groups organized on the basis of some of these differences isn't at all unreasonable.

 

[TarponSpringsNole]

I think that the allowing of girls into the Boy Scouts was done more out of survival after all those scout masters were raping kids. And as far as not allowing one gender into the organization, a wise group of men once said “separate is inherently unequal” and they were right.

So the Girl Scouts were disbanded and remade for all?
You’re splitting hairs with your last sentence.