Let’s be honest

[Squarehat]

The best 174 is Nelson and he's been banged up.

Four weeks ago many were saying “I’m tired of Nelson.”

 

[west2east]

Corby you can’t expect PSU fans to understand wrestling nuances.

Pyles did a video where he said the stall call was the difference and took some heat for it. I was shocked that people were missing how that scenario would've played out.

 

[OILCHECKER]

Mannings goal was the keep every match scoreless until late in the 3rd period, and steal wins at the end.

What was our goal?

 

[acuhawk]

The best 174 is Nelson and he's been banged up.

I don't know that I agree that one is better than the other. And I don't know that I agree that Gabe would be the best 174 either. They are all really close. I think Nelson will get a match next weekend. Hopefully Minn or NW has a tough 174 so we can see where he's at.

 

[west2east]

Four weeks ago many were saying “I’m tired of Nelson.”

You gotta remember this is Iowa wrestling and some here are nuts. And some here don't understand the sport as well as they think. Nelson has been and is the best 174 in the room. My opinion is it was always his spot and he got hurt. Many will say but PK will allocate look back and see if Tom cares about allocations. The best guy will wrestle at the Big 10s regardless of who allocates

 

[GogglesPaizano]

I do wonder if they would get more points in the NCAAs if GA was at 174 and AF at 184.
Nothing against PK, but I don't see him as a better option to score team points.

Nothing to wonder about here, it's not even close.

 

[Inthecircle]

What was our goal?

To win which we did. Some guys did well and others didn’t.
What’s your point?

 

[MitchLL]

I don't know that I agree that one is better than the other. And I don't know that I agree that Gabe would be the best 174 either. They are all really close. I think Nelson will get a match next weekend. Hopefully Minn or NW has a tough 174 so we can see where he's at.

Or give Nelson a match at 184 since many here wanna wait on Ferrari.
As long as he's been out, maybe 174 is not in the cards.

 

[SPOONER]

Pretty sure Arnold to 174 is no longer possible due to weight cut rules.

The decision for him to go at 184 was made long ago. No need to debate it any more. It’s now up to him to generate results.

 

[WEH8ST8HAWK]

Next year to get all of our horses in the race Kennedy and Caliendo both need to drop a weight. It would be a hell of a cut for Caliendo but does he really want another year with Messenbrink in his bracket?
125 Cruz/DeLuca
133 Ayala
141
149 Estrada
157 Caliendo
165 Kennedy
174 Arnold
184 Ferrari
197 Ludington
Hwt Kueter

Also, and I know this isn't going to be popular but the middleweights need someone far better than Ryan to train/roll with. Bring Kemerer back to replace Ryan. No one could say that that wouldn't be a great move for the program.

 

[OILCHECKER]

To win which we did. Some guys did well and others didn’t.
What’s your point?

Seems like a lot of our guys had similar goals to nebbie- be satisfied to keep it close.

 

[SPOONER]

Next year to get all of our horses in the race Kennedy and Caliendo both need to drop a weight. It would be a hell of a cut for Caliendo but does he really want another year with Messenbrink in his bracket?
125 Cruz/DeLuca
133 Ayala
141
149 Estrada
157 Caliendo
165 Kennedy
174 Arnold
184 Ferrari
197 Ludington
Hwt Kueter

Also, and I know this isn't going to be popular but the middleweights need someone far better than Ryan to train/roll with. Bring Kemerer back to replace Ryan. No one could say that that wouldn't be a great move for the program.

I don’t want to see Caliendo sucked down.

I don’t see the need to make a shift to get Kennedy in the lineup.

I am happy you’ve moved on to another man crush former wrestler with little to no track record of success coaching. I can get on board with an assistant coaching shake up, but why not actually go out and get someone good?

 

[MilleGinja]

Four weeks ago many were saying “I’m tired of Nelson.”

Yeah and now PK isn’t performing how we’d like. So we want Nelson back. This is the cycle. You new here?

 

[DeangeloVickers]

Not sure why it would change much. He will win/lose the same amount of 2-1 matches whether hes at 65-74-84-97 with his style.

Disagree. His offense is at least partly limited bc he's undersized for the weight. At 74 he'll be one of the physically stronger guys whereas he's definitely not at 84. That goes a long way when it comes to effective offense.

 

[cidhawkeye]

Lenny was definitely feeling it for a good spell there. and was slow back to the middle a couple times.

but i chuckled when there was a blood stoppage and someone text me 'only hawkeye fans would boo blood'

The Nebby fan next to be laughed and high fived me when I said ‘I think he went Dusty Rhodes and cut himself to get a lung timeout’
Had fun throughout the meet

 

[smalls103]

That's 3 in a row...it's not an off match, it's a pattern. I got called out for "throwing shade" at Gabe after MD match but no offense and close matches often lead to disappointing losses in March.

it was certainly not '3 in a row' where guys were living on his legs like silas was.

if you want to say it's a pattern that Gabe hasn't taken a ton of shots, fine.

but almost no one ever sniffs a leg on gabe and silas was in half a dozen times. i haven't seen anyone get in on gabe like that and i've watched just about every match he's ever wrestled for six years.